All the aggies turning on this guy is funny. He's a good player. I hate
to say it because I'm a Mustang but I think he will do some good for Logan
this season. After the season they had last year I think they need him. We all
remember Logan was supposed to dominate Timpview and they didn't. Maybe
Riley will help the team live up to the fan's talk.
This much I can guarantee: Riley Nelson is a better football player by miles
than any of his critics on this message board.Why don't you
first make your High School team before bashing a guy who set State records.
Riley will be a great coach because he was a gutty football player. His
injuries took away his opportunities for greatness on the field, but he will
still instill greatness in his players because he will motivate them to give
their best.Never forget that there was a noticeable change in
attitude and in determination of the other players when Riley Nelson took over
the reins as QB of the BYU football team.
There are many that may question RN's ability or QB prowess, but I
don't think anyone can question his heart. Broken ribs, punctured
lungs...imagine if someone with Jake Heaps talent had such heart? I attended a
football minicamp for the city with my son when Riley was one of the
instructors. He was amazing with the kids, not just how he taught but how they
all rallied with him and what he was asking them to do. You saw BYU players do
the same...his teammates loved him. That's why he will be a great coach,
kids will want to give him all they've got, he just has that personality.
Best of luck Riley and thanks for all you did for BYU!
I still think the best Riley play of all-time was when he high fived the
Man, some of you are quick to turn nasty. Planning on going to medical school
and getting started in medical school are two different things, and it's
about more than just passing the test. Don't be surprised if you find he
still pursues that dream.I'm not too worried about how he will
be received in Logan. There, detractors will have to look him in the eye.Oh, and you forgot the "bounce the pass off one receiver into the
hands of another for a touchdown, ripping the heart out of your former
team-mates" play. That was a good one.
I wish Riley all the best. He gave everything he had at BYU and I sincerely
appreciate it. I am willing to bet he will become a fine coach.
Nelson finally finds a good fit
Riley was at BYU what Rudy was at Notre Dame. Both had a severe lack of college
football talent and/or size but both had a lot of heart and gave everything they
had. Too bad Rudy only had one game and too bad Riley just couldn't quite
get BYU where they needed to be because based purely on both of their hearts and
work ethics, they deserved better than what they got.
With all due respect, wasn't he going to med school? What happened? I
understand that he wants into coaching, but this seems like a terrible decision.
It will be interesting to see how he is received in Logan now.
When I first saw the article, I misread it as "Riley Nelson Hired at
Defensive Coordinator at Logan High." It made more sense that way . . who
better to advise a defense on creating turnovers than Riley Nelson, the man who
gave to the opposition so freely?
Should be a pretty simple offense, only 3 plays but each play has some
variations that can be run from them: 1. QB run right2. QB run
left3. QB run up the middleon any of the plays the QB has the
option to fling the ball up in the general direction of a teammate or in the
general direction of an opposing player.
continued from previous postThen there are all of the kids who
graduate high school because of football. All athletes are required to keep a
2.0 GPA. At least half of my team would not have graduated if it hadn't
been for this requirement.Then there are the scholarships. 4-5 kids
earning full ride scholarships per year, most of the kids who get them would
never have gone to college otherwise. Those scholarships amount to hundreds of
thousands of dollars toward the education of those who wouldn't normally
have the importunity. I would say that that is worth hiring a
coach for less than $2 per.
JP3Assistant High School Coaches make significantly less than
minimum wage when you divide their stipend by the number of hours they put in.
My high school offensive coordinator made about $2 per hour, and that is at a
school that averaged 4-5 DI football players per year."I call it
sports for the athletically gifted and talented"In football no
one is cut. People of all strengths, size, speed, and abilities can play. A
few examples:A 5'7 170 lbs kid who was was one of the slowest
and weakest Linebacker on the team (and by a lot) Worked really hard and became
the starting LB his senior year, was picked for the local allstar game and ended
up being the games MVP.a 5'6" 135lb Defensive lineman, the
smallest kid on the team, joined his JR year and started despite his diminutive
side. His Sr year he started 2 games and was the MVP of one of them.There are tons of stories like these. (cont in next post)
JP3, competitive sports programs build morale and cohesiveness for the student
body and character for most of the players, and boosts student achievement for
the players who are struggling academically, especially at smaller schools. It
motivates the lower-achieving players to stay in school, rather than dropping
out. The schools I have been affiliated with have had a minimum GPA standard for
its players. I think that competitive sports programs, as well as other
extracurricular activities, help students cope and achieve better things later
on in life.As a former teacher at smaller schools, I found that
libraries could be run effectively by other means at little expense to student
achievement. While some skilled reading aides are essential, I have seen
schools that use parental volunteers for the majority of the students, promoting
parental involvement in the children's education. Parental involvement
boosts student achievement and builds families, so it's a win-win
situation.This comes from someone who would have liked to be a
school librarian, but chose a different path because of job outlook.
jp3,Re: "when was the last time the media reported a top student
at BYU or U of U taking a job as a reading teacher or a math teacher?"________Have you ever seen a "Math" or "Reading"
section in the newspaper? If there was one, and we all cared enough to follow
the most prolific college mathematicians, then perhaps the DNews would post an
article in that section letting us know where that persons post college career
was beginning.So yeah, maybe you and I should petition for the DNews
to add a Math section, I'm sure they'll listen to our request.
jp3, last time i checked they were reporting on an athlete taking a job as a
coach in the sports section of a newspaper....whats the problem again?
The focus is on Nelson as a football coach because he was a high-profile player
for the BYU team. It's not taking away from any one else's choices or
professions. Like everyone else is saying, this is a part time position that he
wants to do. Doesn't mean he's giving up everything else in his life.
I thought that Riley was going to medical school. Have those goals been
jp3 - I am a para-professional coach, doing most likely what Mr. Nielsen is
doing, I work a full time job and then go and coach at a local high school. I
hope to one day be a teacher also. I would be interested to know how much time
you spend outside of school making your students better people. Of all the
teacher/coaches that I have had the pleasure of knowing and working with a lot
of them sacrifice hours upon hours outside the classroom as coaches to help do
just that, make young people better and more well rounded. I applaud their
efforts, and yes they get paid for it. But how else would you expect these
athletic teams function. I don't see you jumping up and down to volunteer
your time and talents free of charge. And trust me the money they make really is
pennies per hour. You mention that "we should be provide opportunities for
everyone to play a team sport, not just the top one percent at school." How
would you fund these additional teams, by letting go more reading aids and
librarians? The opportunities are there, kids just need to take advantage.
Jp3Did you play sports in school?
jp3...Lighten up Francis. He is probably making all of 3 or 4 thousand dollars
for a year's work. He is paid a stipend just like every other walk-on coach
in America and is probably doing it for free.
morhman--Money gets "literally thrown away? Ha! I'm a teacher, and yes,
I literally throw money in the garbage can at school because I have nothing
better to do. All these posts prove my point--we spend an inordinate amount of
time and money on school sports for a precious few--I call it sports for the
athletically gifted and talented--when we should provide opportunities for
everyone to play a team sport, not just the top one percent at a school. And
when was the last time the media reported a top student at BYU or U of U taking
a job as a reading teacher or a math teacher? Isn't that just as or if not
more important? Our priorities are way out of balance regarding sports in high
schools--that's not negative, that's reality.
I have always respected Riley. A man of great character. It was sad to see a
fellow student get lambasted the way he did last year. Btw, Is Riley still going
to to med school?
JP3...do you have to be negative about a young man getting a job in something he
is good at and can build youth with character. Why so negative at things you
seem to know little about. You comment on librarians and reading aides...if
schools would combine resources and share a state or multi-district library
system, they would save quite a bit of money but instead money gets literally
thrown away for redundant services. As for sports, yes, they pay coaches and
last I checked after having a child play high school sports, families pay to
watch those games as do many other in the community. Sports cost money but one
of the few things that also generates money and when done correct, is an asset
to a community. Why can't people just be happy for others instead of just
always looking for negative. Good luck to Riley Nelson.
Why the negative remarks ? Nelson is starting his coaching career at a low
paying job in his hometown like many others who break into the business. It is
his business on how he affords to do the job. I wish him the best and think he
will be a fine coach.
jp3 he will make maybe 2-3000 dollars (coaches receive a small stipend for their
work) for being the offensive coordinator at the high school, which is going to
be essentially pennies on the dollar for the amount of work and impact he will
have on those boys. If anything, coaches are underpaid in this state. In
Texas, it's a 6 figure profession. Most of the time, the money from the
football fundraising pays for the coaches anyway.
Reading aides and librarians are being cut from one Utah school district, while
another has the money to hire an "offensive coordinator" for a football
team. This pretty much says it all about the state of the American education
What else is he doing? Is he teaching at Logan High or doing some other job. I
know how much head football coaches make in this state and I have to seriously
scratch my head at how this is "a job" to support his family!!!I guess he liked his few years in Provo, but at the end of the day - Logan is
STILL where it's at!!!
Congratulations and all the best to you Riley. All of Cougar nation wishes you
the best and our sincere gratitude for all you did at BYU. You gave everything
you had to the team and to the school and BYU fans thank you. May
you continue to represent the values of BYU in your profession as well as you
did while a student athlete.Blessings to you....