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Published: Friday, May 17 2013 5:00 a.m. MDT

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southmtnman
Provo, UT

And lest we forget, Ward members can also drive children out of the Church.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

Oh no! More liberal sentiment "It takes a village".

shadow01
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The ward and the community should be used as resources only. What it really takes to raise a child is devoted parents who are actively involved in teaching, nurturing, guiding and at times disciplining their children. Too many parents take the position that the community or the ward is the primary provider of spiritual and moral guidance. Leaving the children to the community that promotes immorality and dependence on society will result in exactly what we pay for.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

See, this is what is meant when Clinton says it takes a village and what Melissa Harris-Perry meant when she said that children belong to the community.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Seems like everyone from communists to the Religious Right recognizes that we are social beings that thrive on cooperation and in strong communities... is this news?

donn
layton, UT

RE: Jewish parenting, “schoolmaster” (Gal. 3: 25). the word does not mean teacher, but pedagogue, i.e., one who was intrusted with the supervision of a family, taking them to and from the school, being responsible their safety and manners. The pedagogue was stern in his discipline. Thus the law was a pedagogue to the Jews, with a view to Christ, i.e., to prepare for faith in Christ by producing convictions of guilt and helplessness. The office of the pedagogue ceased when "faith came", i.e., the object of that faith, the seed, which is Christ.

antodav
TAMPA, FL

Atl134,

No. That's not what they meant at all. There was no religious component to what they said. They are secular progressive statists, through and through. The world they imagine is one more similar to that of The Giver or Brave New World, where government has complete and total control over how children are raised and the family becomes an archaic or even immoral institution. Not the Church and its divinely-inspired mechanisms for helping parents to raise their own children in righteousness.

However, I will admit this is a strong contrast from how most LDS parents tend to think of parenthood, with attitudes coming from the intensely conservative political culture of Mormonism. The Family Proclamation doesn't mention the important role the ward plays in a child's development, but nevertheless a parent who didn't get their children actively involved in Primary, Seminary, Young Men's/Young Women's, etc., would most likely be seen as derelict in his/her parental responsibilities. I think at some point we have to draw the line though and recognize that parents and families DO have a primary role in child-raising. The Church can certainly help a lot though.

thicks
Sumner, TN

I'm curious, what does the LDS church believe it takes to enter into Heaven? And what is the biblical reference?

BlakeR
St Joseph, MI

I appreciate what the Eyers are trying to say here, but I would say it a bit different: "it takes a family to raise a child". Family means a variety of things, and can take a wide variety of forms. The best kinds of wards feel like family (that has been our experience as we have lived and raised our family hundreds of miles from our extended families), and are in a great position to support families and individuals. But some caution: too many LDS parents gauge the positive progress of children by how well they navigate through the organizations and programs of the Church (and some wards are great facilitators of that kind of progress) only to realize later that personal testimony and conversion to the Savior never happened --is not synonymous or automatic with getting through church organizations and programs. Parents are best positioned to discern early warning signs with children who are just going through motions and routines. But, what a great blessing it is to have a few other sets of spiritually discerning eyes in bishops, youth leaders, and other ward family members in general, who can influence and guide our children!

G L W8
SPRINGVILLE, UT

RanchHand and alt134: please remember that because liberals like Hillary Clinton and Melissa Harris-Perry use the phrases mentioned in a political context, they are just that. Shadow01 has outlined what needs to happen pretty well; please re-read those comments.

Those comments should provide southmtnman some insight on why careless people: ward members, teachers, neighbors, well-intentioned but misguided others--can drive youth away. All the more reason for parents to be vigilant. But remember in the long run, we all make our own choices. Another reason that parents, families, the village, ward, community should never give up efforts to assist youth to live useful, productive lives. Even in extreme cases, we can hold onto hope!

iNKSpot
Wilsonville, OR

It takes a whole FAMILY to raise a child.

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

This article’s title is inaccurate. It does NOT take a whole ward to raise a child; what it takes is dedicated parents. The ward is an appendage to the efforts of the parents. Though we’re fortunate to have them, remember that children are not born to a ward, they’re born to a mother and a father.

Eyres, I believe you walk a fine line when you state such a thing as a truth. It is a half-truth; like the other half-truths with which Satan deceives us. Of course we should seek to be our brothers’ keeper; however the adversary is happy to acknowledge nine truths just to slip in one big lie.

Clinton and Harris-Perry both seek to remove personal responsibility from the individual and to instead place it with the collective society. Contrary to what they both suggest is a superior idea, removing personal responsibility from people weakens them – it does not empower them. Do I have to remind any of us that on Judgment Day the ward will not be there next to us. It will be each of us, individually, who are judged by our maker.

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

Cont’d
A beautiful and integral part of LDS doctrine is that we fought a war in heaven for the privilege of exercising individual agency. How can you (Eyres) so easily set aside this significant doctrine?

Our nation/society must recognize that children belong to their parents, and thus embrace the critical importance of parents’ roles; that they – parents -- are ultimately responsible for the upbringing and outcome of their children. But instead, we see Clinton and Harris-Perry attempting to shift this critical responsibility; and why: for political expediency. Isaiah prophesied of this occurring when he said, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Isaiah 5:20)

You are a steward over what is yours, and you and you alone will be accountable to the Lord for what you’ve been given. Stewardship and accountability are closely related, and cannot be passed off to another, no matter how desirable it seems to mingle the philosophies of men with scripture.

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