Many people try to make immigration enforcement a political issue rather than a
law enforcement issue.Most democrats I know don't see any
possible way we can admit 25 million new enrollees to our social services
budgets. Yet that is what the current immigration bills being debated would
do.Republicans, if they take a firm immigration stance in 2015
elections, are likely to win over as many democrats as they lose in hispanic
votes.The current immigration bills being debated would be the
"straw that broke the camels back" financially to our country if
implemented.It would be very expensive to implement, would grow the
federal government enormously, it would put a major onus on the state budgets to
provide (now)approved social services for wage earners below $9.00 per hr.The real irony is that it WOULD NOT solve the problem of illegal
immigration. Unethical/illegal businesspersons would simply hire a "fresh
crop" of illegal trespassers who would, inevitably, arrive to wait for THEIR
AMNESTY.It will be the lower to higher income taxpayers who wind up
paying the costs associated with amnesty.NOT the upper income
brackets. THATS WHY democrats should be against it also.
H BealVery well said. Mr Thompson is confusing politics with religon.
Talk to any businessman who keeps an eye on demographics and they'll tell
you that hispanics will have a major impact on what this country is to be over
the next 50 years. The vile and bitterness that so many Republicans have
against latino's not only alinates them but other voting blocs that do not
want to associate with the GOP. I interact with many latinos in business and
think they and their culture are great assets to our country. I find consistent
comments and viewpoints expressed by Republican's as very arrogant,
ill-informed and myopic. Whether hispanics residing here in the United States
are legal or not, the vast majority are decent, hard working, family oriented
people who are trying to make a better life. I, and most Americans, respect and
admire qualitites like that.
J Thompson:Assuming your numbers are correct, they still only tell a
partial story. I know you know that we elect Presidents through the Electoral
College. So the Hispanic vote say in some key states like Florida, Nevada and
Colorado is what is key. If the GOP can't get enough traction with
Hispanics in these states, they could continue to lose these states by
relatively close margins. Perhaps if Romney got 40% of the Hispanic vote in
these states, those states could have went from Blue to Red. That is the real
question. It's not the nationwide Hispanic vote that counts but in states
that the GOP must win and that are winnable if traction was made with the
Hispanic vote. As far as social issues, Hispanic voters could care
less when all the Republican Party talks about is how they might want to send
their Uncle, Aunt, grandmother, friend or neighbor back to their home country.
At that point that becomes a bigger "issue" than abortion or gay
marriage or whatever. When the GOP learns to tone down the rhetoric a bit, I
think things will turn more to their favor.
HS,You're totally fully of baloney. Romney would have had to
gain 73% of the Hispanic vote in order to win the White House. No Republican in
history has won more than the low 40-percentile. That makes your comment moot.
Also, there are not nearly as many legal Hispanic voters as you might think,
about 7% of the total voting population. Any that believe in law and order, that
believe that the greatness of America is a gift from God, not a gift from
Washington, that believe that hard work and honesty are the only policy that
counts, are totally welcome in the GOP. Those who believe differently will be
welcomed by the Democrats. The GOP is not interested in selling
America, or her ideals, to win an election. The GOP believes in honoring and
obeying he law. Those that believe differently can continue to vote for
Democrats. We will not sell out just to win an election.
I don't think there is a problem. Hispanics have always preferred the
Democrats. The Hispanic support of illegal immigration has become a problem for
the Democrats, as the party that once helped the poor, are driving many away by
supporting people here illegally. I have pulled away from the
Democrats, after 35 years, and the part Hispanic members in my family have
HS Fan,Republicans have problems with legal voting Hispanics because
most legal voting Hispanics are OK with their illegal immigrants family members
and amigos who are also here in the states.Pretty simple really
J Thompson-The GOP would have won the WH if they did not have a
"perception" problem with legal, voting hispanics. Current demographic
trends have them losing more red states in 2016 and 2020 if they don't fix
their problem with legal hispanics. Republicans like you continue to cost the
party future elections if you don't pull your head out of the sand. Wake
up and smell the tortillas.
The GOP has no "hispanic problem". The GOP believes in welcoming
immigrants into the United States WHEN those immigrants come in legally and when
those immigrants obey the laws of the United States. The GOP has no interest in
buying votes from those who crossed the border illegally. The GOP has no
interest in being their nanny, providing them food, clothing, shelter or
education. The GOP has legal citizens to care about.
Immigration isn't the biggest concern for most Hispanic people I talk with.
But taking a super-harsh stand on imigration policy is sure a turn off to
them, and I can see why.Some of my Hispanic friends are the most
vocal of my friends on being against Illegal Immigration (not all are here
illegally and they want others to obey the law like they did). But when
Republicans sound all harsh and uncaring about people from their homeland...
they can get offended.I think Republicans need to show they care.
Not just give in and allow illegal immigration, but show they understand and
care about people from other countries, and that they realise that a lot of
Hispanic people are here legally and tend to disagree with Democrats on many
things (Abortion, Religion, Marriage, large government, reduced individual
rights, especially the right to work (without Union approval). But after
repeated insults from Republicans... they have to decide which party offends
them the least.Hispanics are an important voting block in America,
and Democrats are experts at exploiting special interests and capturing minority
voting blocks. Republicans are not as skilled as Democrats at pandering.
Last year I talked to a good Hispanic neighbor of mine. He asked if I was a
Democrat. I told him yes, and he gave me a big smile. "Me too," he said.
"The Republicans hate us." Enough said.
When a significant portion of the Hispanic agenda is to make me believe its ok
to break the law and enter our country illegally I will never be on board with
this group.Want to show you are good AMERICANS?Obey the