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Published: Thursday, May 16 2013 5:25 a.m. MDT

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Habib Assi
Salt Lake City, Utah

I can't believe that this has turned into a Sabbath discussion. Mormons do not believe as the Adventists and others that you should never work on the Sabbath. My Stake President is a doc and has to work many Sundays. My brother is a doc and has to work from time to time. I studied every Sunday during graduate school. If I have to work I do. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Chris, a person who works on the Sabbath is not choosing to disobey--you have that wrong for sure. We make these decisions on a person level and then "own them"! No temple recommend interview, PPI, or other accounting to our leaders will inquire about this matter.

If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words. Isiah 58:13 If we do as Isaih says here we are good--God's grace is sufficient!

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm with Duckhunter on this one.

As for Eric Weddle, he is and always has been a great person, family man and ambassador for the University of Utah.

Great player too.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

This is about good examples and role models, not about a sabbath day commandment. There are other great role models that aren't lds and probably go home from a hard days work and have a beer. Do I minimize their positive influence because they drink beer and I don't? Of course not. If Eric Weddle decides to play on Sundays then he will probably have to answer to god for doing so. Does that mean I should minimize what a stud he is and how great his example is because he does ONE thing I disagree with? Chris B, the standard you are asking requires that we only applaud perfect individuals in which case we would applaud no one. Most Mormons would probably say Eric Weddle is breaking the sabbath, but as duck hunter said, they would also applaud his efforts and example in living the other aspects of his faith. Your argument is all or nothing and only deals in absolutes, which makes it futile because most situations based in reality are never absolute.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@ ChrisB

"So it's ok to do things on Sunday if its your job?"

-We all can't set our own hours, if we have a job that ask us to work on Sunday, it's what we do to support families, yes its OK.

"my experience...in Mormon Utah has taught me that Mormons think generally working on Sundays is not ok."

-Right, we would prefer not to, but if we "have to", we do.

"...don't compare him to Docs working on Sundays.He "has to" work on Sundays as much as the 7-11 clerk "has to" work on Sundays so I can go buy drinks."

-Why can't I compare, they are all jobs aren't they? They "have to" also, What you do on Sundays is up to you. I don't care. If I can avoid a 7-11 and prepare myself on Saturday for my drinks on Sunday, I choose to do that.

Its either perfectly ok for anyone to work on Sundays or it isn't.

"Which is it?"

-Yes, its OK, but if you can avoid it, we avoid it. Why is this so hard for you to understand. To understand, give effort.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@ChrisB

You say "Which is it?"

In case you missed it, answer is above. I answered it for you so I guess this question is done. What next?

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

@Chris B - "Is GOD totally OK with playing/watching/attending sports on Sundays?

Yes or No.

God does not care about sports, Lol!

reasonableUTE
Provo, UT

@ Chris B

let me first remind you that I already agree with you when you say that people shouldn't judge others for watching games on sunday, while praising others for playing on sunday. You are correct on that matter.

I must say however, that your understanding of the way God works is incorrect. (granted that is probably a result of some incorrect things you have been told by others who are supposed to be in the know).

God judges us all on an individual basis. Given the fact that Eric Weddle being a famous football player means that he has tremendous missionary opportunities, i'm sure God would approve of his playing on sundays as long as he does his best to keep the sabbath day holy in every other way possible.

@ teleste

I happen to know for a fact that Weddle gave his career choice much thought and prayer before going forward with it. He felt that he and God were on the same page in this regard, thus explaining will not be necessary. Besides that, Jesus is not looking for reasons to condemn us, he is looking for reasons to glorify us.

Habib Assi
Salt Lake City, Utah

Chris B, I can see that you are wanting a black and white answer. There isn't one for most things. If I have to work on Sunday, it is because I could lose my job or an important client (the ox is in the mire). If the 7-11 clerk can get a job that does not require Sunday work, then he should probably do so. A Doc may try to order his job so that he does not have to work on Sundays--or at all for that matter. Missing church and not being there for family on Sunday can damage spirituality as Eric Weddle has learned. We do the best we can between us and God. You are some thinking that the person on the street (you or me) should be able to judge whether someone is keeping the Sabbath. It does not work that way. I had a neighbor comment one time because he said it looked like "fun" to use my 4 wheeler to plow the driveway on Sunday. I said "it is fun what's your point idiot!"

SamoanYfan
WEST JORDAN, UT

@Chris B.

You should have a LDS Ute fan who shares the same dislike towards BYU as you do (yes they exist) explain it to you. I believe I should remind you that a vast majority of your fellow Ute fans are LDS themselves and your comments toward the Mormon church are unnecessary. I respect you for your beliefs and thoughts but don't try to slam the church or it's members, especially when many of them have Ute blood flowing through them as much as you do.

Me, Myself and I
The Promised Land, UT

teleste

You made a great point, but not the one I think you intended. First off no one can make someone else feel guilty. If you feel guilty about something then somewhere deep down inside you believe the thing which you feel guilty for is wrong or that you shouldn't be doing it. Bottom line if you feel guilty about not keeping the Sabbath day holy when you do or don't do certain things on that day you've answered your own question. One that no one else can answer for you or tell you with any kind of authority that you're right or wrong.

ekute
Layton, UT

We need more role models like Eric Weddle.

Chris is not wrong to point out the self righteous arrogance and hypocrisy that is all to common in the LDS community. btw, I'm LDS and include myself in the comment.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Chris,

Yes or no?

Personally, I do not care what you choose to do or not do.

However, it is always interesting when someone does something impressive that shows character.

Nice to see you take over again beating the same dead horse.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

utahbruin,

Still not answering things I see.

"my experience...in Mormon Utah has taught me that Mormons think generally working on Sundays is not ok."

-Right, we would prefer not to, but if we "have to", we do.

My question wasn't "do you prefer to work not on Sundays"

My question was: Is working on Sundays perfectly ok.

My whole point is that YES you CAN avoid it.

What if a Mormon got a job at a brewery and had to sample the product?

That must be ok according to your logic, because he works there right?

So you agree that its perfectly ok for any Mormon to drink alcohol if they work at a brewery and are asked to make sure the product is ok is that right?

Please be consistent in your responses.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

utahbruin,

Still not answering things I see.

"my experience...in Mormon Utah has taught me that Mormons think generally working on Sundays is not ok."

-Right, we would prefer not to, but if we "have to", we do.

My question wasn't "do you prefer to work not on Sundays"

My question was: Is working on Sundays perfectly ok.

My whole point is that YES you CAN avoid it.

What if a Mormon got a job at a brewery and had to sample the product?

That must be ok according to your logic, because he works there right?

So you agree that its perfectly ok for any Mormon to drink alcohol if they work at a brewery and are asked to make sure the product is ok is that right?

Please be consistent in your responses.

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

Chris, this has nothing to do about "Sunday" but everything to do about you and your feelings toward the LDS church and BYU. You can nit pick all you want, but one of the beauties of life is the choices life allows us to make. Sometimes your choice is to hate. Eric has choose a profession where is works on Sunday about 25 weeks a year.

There is nothing hypocritical about Eric working on Sunday. It is his decision. It is also not your call or mine to tell him if it is right or wrong.

Get some love in your life and this wonderful world we live in would look much brighter. Trust Me!!

alternate
Salt Lake City, UT

I suspect that right now one computer system in Sandy, Ut, is smoking big time as the keyboard blasts out word after word of challenges, agruments, counter arguments, and a bunch of hate over such a trivial topic.

But look at the bright side, the DNews can show it's advertisers that freedom of speech is alive and well and used in large numbers by the readers and internet commentors of this paper.

I also believe that somewhere in California or elsewhere, the family Weddle is shaking their heads in disbelief with maybe a smile or two sneaking through.

Life is good!! Live, Love, Laugh!! Just look at that picture of Mom, Dad and the kids!!

U 90
Corona, CA

Chris B.,

I'm LDS and think you have made a few good points about what might appear to be a contradiction within our faith. Short answer... working on Sunday or watching sports will not prevent one from achieving the highest level of exaltation in the life after. Having said that, we all could probably improve our standing with God by avoiding those activities on Sunday.

I also want to apologize for members of my faith who have been disrespectful and called you names. This is not what we teach in our church.

Chris, I'm interested to know your take on the subject. You have mentioned on these boards that you are Catholic... which is great. Catholics believe in the 10 commandments which includes keeping the Sabbtath day holy. What do you believe? How do you think God looks upon those who work or attend athletic events on Sunday? Is it right or wrong in your book?

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

I made a mistake. I thought this was about Eric Weddle. Where can I find that piece? Somehow I read the article here and found out it was about a Sabbath Day debate. Anyone holy therein?

jasonlivy
Orem, UT

Chris, I'm treating this as if your sincere, but that's doubtful. If you are sincere, please forgive me...

You're right. I'm a victim but only of my own choices. However if you think I'm playing the victim card you're living in an alternative reality. The gospel of Jesus Christ has been nothing but a blessing in my life. I am eternally grateful for what it's afforded me..

There is a critical doctrine in the LDS Church you might not be familiar with. "...it is not meet that I should command in all things, for he that is compelled in all things...is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he recieveth no reward."

What does this mean? That it's up to each individual member to make there own choices, good or bad. This would include the Sabbath.

The commandment is this, "Thou Shalt Keep The Sabbath Day Holy." Does it then say, "and don't watch football on Sunday"? No! That would mean we're being compelled.

You want a 'Yes' or 'No' answer but you aren't going to get it. The Lord doesn't work that way. Sorry.

Whos Life RU Living?
Ogden, UT

I think Chris B is mainly concerned with the famous Mormon shame game.

Shame is popularly given to those who are not in line with following the gospel. Chris is showing his concern that the shame is not being equally distributed to those not following the gospel.

He has experienced that a non member receives more shame than a celebrity LDS member.

If LDS members want to justify their shaming towards needs and wants, so be it, but it is not the best way to convert non-members if that is your goal.

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