to Cats 11:26 a.mPaying attention to something other than the sound
bites on Uncle Rupert's propaganda channel, you'd realize it was a few
rogue agents.This could be misdirection for something more
nefarious??My money, however, is on what Chris Hayes (MSNBC) said,
"...ratings for news across *all* formats is down" So, the powers that
be are stirring the pot to generate revenue I mean ratings.
Orrin making a comment. I thought he had given up the ghost, or had already rode
off into the sunset.
@ sg, yes Hatch is corrupt with his under the table deals and needs to step down
now and not when his term ends. His running at the mouth about other's
underhandedness is comical. Retire now Senator Hatch!
Hatch hasn't done anything to dispel the corruption of Congress. He is
surprised by this revelation? What's he been doing the last few months of
his last term? At one time Hatch was effective, now he is like all the rest of
his colleagues. long in the tooth and rich because of the insider trading. Why
hasn't Hatch been demanding full disclosure of Obama and Holder and every
other misgiving of this administration? He sits and ponders his retirement
years...writing poetry and songs? Hatch is today's Frank Moss - old and out
of touch with Utahns. He should never have been re-elected.
"DN Subscriber" I agree totally!Hatch is in a position
where he COULD make some kind of difference. Will he? Or, in 2 wks when the
dust has settled will he "reach across the aisle" and make nice with
other lifetime elected members of Senate; both Repub. and Demo. BTW.Some employees of the IRS SHOULD go to jail as an example to others, but
I've never seen it happen, and don't expect it to now.Also, I hope this IRS issue doesn't take away the Benghazi
"problem" for the administration. I feel the Benghazi issue most
probably leads all the way to the White House.Also, I hope the IRS
doesn't come after me as retribution for criticizing their nonsensical
ways. They obviously have a nasty habit of that!
It's not a very original defense to shoot the messenger. Shifting the focus
away from the IRS is a cop out. This is about the IRS and if they have not been
guilty of willful deception, let the facts speak for themselves. Otherwise, save
the criticism of Sen. Hatch for an election time. The left wing animus for Hatch
should not interfere with the investigation.
@ EsquireAgree, one of the best things that any President and
Congress could do is reform the tax code to make it possible to be understood by
the average person. Why won't they? Maybe it is the same reason that
trial lawyers don't want tort reform. @ Craig ClarkSo I guess the question becomes, was there any non-profit group that was
either given easy status, or given difficult status due to politics? As Cats
said, some Romney supporters think they were targeted. Were they? We'll
Maybe Hatch should get serious about reforming the tax code rather than
political posturing. A lot of this could become moot if he and the rest of
Congress would simply get some real work done.
SCfan,I totally agree. The law must be equally applied to all. My
post was in response to Hatch and ten other GOP Senators demanding to know why
donor information was being requested from a group applying for non-profit
status. That one is a no-brainer.
For those of you who obviously get your news from MSNBC, the IRS has already
ADMITTED IT! They targed conservative and jewish groups. They have admitted
it. There is now more about audits and possible intimidation of
individuals who were Romney donors. One Romney donor was audited three times in
four months. It took him $80,000 to clear himself. We don't know how far
this thing could go.Wow! Aren't these just the people we want
enforcing our health care?
Re: Craig ClarkNo, but apparantly liberal non-profit groups did not
get the same scrutiny, or this would not be a story. The IRS has to be
non-partisan beyond any doubt.
This is all baloney. The IRS scrutinized nearly 300 political groups last year,
of which about 78 were "conservative" groups, mostly new fly-by-night
t-party setups that would raise a red flag to any donor. Why should the IRS be
apologizing for doing its job?
I'm glad to see Orinn at least pretending to be awake.Wake up
Sen. Hatch we need you to be in this fight. Nap time is over!
Uncle Orrin is cute when he gets angry. He gets all pouty, talks fast and his
voice gets shrill. He says stuff about this is unacceptable and must not be
tolerated.But, then he goes back to his 36 year habit of gentlemanly
conduct, politely asking his "good friends across the aisle" to stop
trampling the Constitution and spending us into slavery.But, he
never actually DOES anything to stop them. Press releases and "angry"
statements are window dressing to fool the gullible.I want to see
Hatch join forces with Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and actually filibuster
if necessary. I want him to object to "unanimous consent" motions. I
want him to tie the Senate in knots so they get absolutely NOTHING done. Most
of what they do get done is worthless [naming Post Offices, etc] or destructive
anyway, so doing nothing is better than destroying our country.Refuse to fund the IRS, or confirm appointments. Defund Obamacare.Angry is a start, Orrin, but use all that seniority and experience to actually
STOP the liberals, not just talk about it.
Any group applying for non-profit status should be required to disclose donor
information. Does Orrin Hatch honestly expect the IRS to rubber stamp the
application of an applicant who might not qualify?
Remember when the good Senator from our neighboring state gave confidential
information about Mitt Romney's finances but wouldn't disclose the
source(s). Everything that happened in 2012 should be suspect relating to the
whole campaign against Romney and the Republican party and any appendage such as
the Tea-Party. Since President Clinton didn't know the definition of is,
this President who never does a budget wants everyone else's budget with
his President Woodrow Wilson's model of the IRS intrusion into our lives,
including the OBAMACARE or doesn't care. He does so many things
that are the opposite of transparent that he used as a force against McCain in
2007. I can see Obama and Hillary with their secret handshake in 2008 when she
backed out from running against Obama. She picked up a liability by working for
him. Benghazi will not be a positive moment in her life. It will be like going
through impeachment processes with her husband, William J. Clinton the 4-time
governor of Arkansas replicating his deficiencies. We have
Statesman out of these two Presidents. Even President Obama got the Nobel Peace
prize for international implications. He can't maintain peace with his
I couldn't agree more with the Title and Senator Hatch. The administration
knew in 2011 that this tactic was similar to the FAST and FURIOUS and not let
the American citizens of the Republican party know of their plans, schemes and
devious methods. Employees just don't go out and violate the law. They
had direction, guidance and force from the dark side to push this effort prior
to an election. Obama hated that Romney was a successful businessman, had a law
degree and an MBA. He hated the Tea-Party for ruining the 2010 elections plans
for him that the House fell into Republican control and ruined his FULL agenda.
He had to deal with Pelosi coming after him for her minions that lost to the
Tea-Party due to efforts started in 2009 by people who were unhappy with his
rule and reign after his big push for Obamacare. His problem is he doesn't
care about governing. He hasn't governed for the people. Vote and then
read. That is not governing. He sort of thinks like a person that got his
foundation in the world outside of the United States of America. The founding
fathers had wisdom.
How ironic that Senator Hatch would use the phrase "Nixonian" to
describe the IRS activities.
Hatch "mislead"? I would say that he was asleep at his post. When a
Senator sleeps through a year-long assault by the IRS, what good is he to us and