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Published: Tuesday, May 14 2013 11:35 a.m. MDT

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CynicJim
Taylorsville, UT

Years ago when the media forefronted the attack on the second Ammendment, I postulated that it was only a matter of time before the first Ammendment would come under attack. Let us now see if our Chavez-type media will continue under Obama's thumb.or if they will champion their own cause, And, if their defense will include religion as part of the First!

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

Wow, really? Who is the judge who approved this? Wouldn't it be interesting to see a few calls from the West Wing?

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Maybe this story should begin "First, the came for the Second Amendment, but I was a Journalist...."

Nobody needs more than one telephone. There should be waiting periods before crazy journalists get access to phones.

They didn't have telephones when the Constitution was adopted, so only quill pens and moveable type and hand presses are protected.

Only a conspiracy nut would think that the Obama administration would take away any of your rights.

The bottom line is that the Obama administration and Eric Holder's Justice Department can NOT be trusted, and will not obey the limits on their power clearly delineated in our Constitution. And, that does not even begin to consider the huge scandal over the political thuggery of the IRS!

Journalists, welcome to the ranks of the oppressed.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Some of us could see this coming 5 years ago. Don't blame me, I voted for Romney BECAUSE of these kinds of government power abuses! But never fear liberals, we still have Obama and Holder for nearly 4 more years. Imagine that!

Esquire
Springville, UT

Just a week or two ago, Charles Krauthammer, the conservative Obama-hating columnist, wrote that one of the crowning achievements of the Bush Administration was the anti-terrorism system now in place. It is the result of the GOP's Patriot Act and related legislation. The fact that these laws led to this court approved action should be something that every conservative should welcome. I don't want to hear one word of complaint from the right. After all, they hate the main stream media anyway. So I guess we will see how deep runs the hypocrisy.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Esquire,
it was the DEM controlled house and senate during the first half BO's (D) first term that the Act you decry was set to expire. But the DEM controlled government extended it. Who is the hypocrit now?

I think this is all getting blown out of proportion - I'm sure Holder was just making sure the AP was getting all the DNC talking points.

Esquire
Springville, UT

"lost", it still originated with your guys and your guys nearly unanimously reauthorized it. You seem to have missed the point that the GOP loves it, so no complaining about it necessary. That's where the hypocrisy is. You surely can figure this one out.

LetsDebate
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

Of course, Esquire, all mistakes made by the GOP are the GOP's fault, and according to the repeated propaganda from the left, all mistakes by the Dems are the GOP's fault as well. The Dems appreciate your loyal support.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

Esquire:

The true hypocrisy lies in the fact that every time Bush did anything at all you didn't agree with, you and others on the left felt totally free to criticize on these very pages. And now that Obama has got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, you want people on the right to give him a free pass and just forget about it. It's truly one of those "do as I say, not as I do" kind of things. You should be the last to now be preaching about hypocrisy.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

I still believe that this President studied Constitutional law for one purpose and that was to get around what the majority of people for 200 years believed the Constitution of the United States of America is and what it means.

First amendment and second amendment. Sort of important? There won't be a deep throat in this process as he/she will be uncovered.

The Press and Media have been very protective of this President for 5 years. Their area has now been violated and the government is becoming like the PRAVDA. The CIA and FBI will become the KGB or Secret Police and not the protectors for freedoms.

What is inviolate? The ATF even suffered with the Fast and Furious. The IRS just used their process in 2011 to violate people's rights and maybe influence elections?

Safety and health standards were to help employees and protect owners, also, by increasing productivity. Now, employers can hide behind the safety and health standards by self-reporting themselves.

We have lowered our standards everyday by becoming complacent and let the government do everything for us. That even breeds people inside of political parties to do their own purification processes for people who think.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

I understand the need to investigate disclosures of top secret information that could potentially place people in harm’s way but on the surface this seems very troubling. I would like to know how they justify and why they have cast what seems to be such a wide net.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: " I don't want to hear one word of complaint from the right."

Well, you'll just have to continue plugging your ears and shouting, "la, la, la," then.

Otherwise, you'll hear lots of complaints, from both right and left, about this long and growing list of Obama regime outrages against its Nixonian enemies list.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Wow, no consistency in the comments except hate.

LetsDebate
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

Obama, probably like many other presidents, should have been given an alternate oath of office for his second term, particularly considering the pattern of his first term. After the phrase "...will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," should be added "unless it violates my personal ideology."

And thank you again, Esquire, for your contribution to the consistency of the comments.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

This is sadly probably totally legal. After all the Patriot Act and other similar bills allowed vast expanses of power in this area.

LoveLife
Riverton, UT

Esquire~

Could you please direct me specifically where this is defended as being conducted under the Patriot Act? The article said, "The government would not say why it sought the records" so I don't really see how it is related.

You'll find plenty of conservatives/Republicans who did not like or approve of the Patriot Act. Republicans have troubles getting elected and re-elected because of stuff like that.

jsf
Centerville, UT

No atl134 it is not legal, under the Patriot Act or any other Act. It is criminal actions. The question about Benghazi, gun running to drug cartels, targeting using the IRS, and the AP issue, all tie up to powers in the Administration. Deeper is the gun running to Syrian rebels in violation of international law. And if Bush is going to be the scapegoat then prosecute him also. Obama jokingly(?) threatened to use the IRS to go after his opponents early in his first term. With the likes of Nixon and the problems of this administration and the rest between, liberals tell us we are paranoid to distrust our government. Obama said he wished he didn't have the constraints of the constitution to keep him from getting what he wants to do. He threatened to go around congress to get the gun control he wanted.

If you listen to a man long enough he will tell you who he is.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Esquire,
something I forgot to mention earlier - when the PATRIOT ACT first passed, the majority of DEMS in the house and senate voted FOR it, as well as the repubs.

Your first comment blames everything on the repubs, then your 11:05 comment says all the conservative comments are "hate". I guess you refuse seeing your comments blaming the repubs as "hate". I sure am glad you talked about someone being hypocritical. Hope you have a good mirror.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

Lots of dubious claims and no facts to support them JSF.

LoveLife
Riverton, UT

Lost-
That's because anything that happened under GWB was directly GWB's fault. Unlike now, where Obama can just say he didn't know about it and he is magically off the hook. Double standards are fine if you lean to the left.

I'm also curious about Esquire's "hate" allegations, and would appreciate it if he/she would quote exactly what was hateful. Some sarcasm perhaps, but not hateful or even mean-spirited.

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