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Published: Saturday, May 11 2013 9:52 p.m. MDT

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MapleDon
Springville, UT

This should read, "Churches compete for Latin converts".

RRB
SLC, UT

I think Bishop Wester knows full well that the vitriol is directed at those who came here illegally, and the harm they have done to the American public, especially the poor citizens of this country.

It's time for the Churches to show compassion to the victims of illegal immigration. Including the real immigrants that came here legally.

wigglwagon
Mariion, Va

The fact is that immigration is not good for the economy. If it were as good as the pundits claim, the US economy would be prospering instead of having 30 million people looking for jobs.

These so called leaders have no concern for the welfare of people. They just want more people to fill the pews. They do not give a hoot about the law abiding families forced into unemployment and poverty by an over inflated supply of workers.

RichardB
Murray, UT

It makes me sad that these churches encourage people to break Gods laws forbidding stealing, coveting, and lying. They are not teaching right from wrong, but asking that we reward wrong behavior.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

"We have created a shadow society, a permanent underclass," he said. "It's horrible for the immigrants. It's horrible for our country." I agree that it's horrible but I don't think "we" have created it. What "we" have done is provide such a desirable climate in which to propsper that literally millions have come illegally. And that has been their decision!

I do hope we can help them properly and get some resolution to the mess. While we all know that forgiveness is easier to obtain than permission, the thing I see as a sticky point is how do you grant forgiveness to those already in violation without giving the message that permission is forwith granted to anyone else in the future? If the end justifies the means for Group A how does it apply to Group B?

We always hear about the innocent illegal immigrant that is being denied a life. Why do we never hear about the innocent victims of identity theft (many, times children) who have unwittingly had their social security number stolen to provide the opportunity for an immigrant to work and what will be done for them?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I was just reading yesterday but there is now a lawsuit for millions of acres in Utah but no one recognized Indian tribe if this is one of the cases of a broken treaty the court could very well rule in favor of the Indians which would mean that people who own land in the area in question would lose them.

it was very common in our history that we would deed land to Indians and later find out that the land was valuable and then take it back. these are all potential mine fIelds where a lot of Americans could lose private land and be forced of the land where they now reside or forced to pay rent on that land

were this to happen I'm certain the Tea Party mandate against compassion would go out the window

RBB
Sandy, UT

Apparnetly, preaching obeying the law has fallen out of favor.

Casey See
FLOWER MOUND, TX

Let me say upfront that I am not infavor of complete amnesty of illegal aliens. But there are a few things we do need to consider. When many of our ancestors came to the United States, it was a simple matter of boarding a ship, paying some money, and arriving with a clean bill of health. Today it is much harder, more expensive, and unless you have specific skills or can show that you are in danger because of your beliefs or political views, you won't get in for along time. The reasons our ancestors came to the United States is the same that illegal aliens come for the most part. To create a better life for themselves.

This last year, most of us saw the movie or the play, Les Miserables. Are we acting the part of the Priest, Jean Valjean or Inspector Javert who himself came out of the gutter and now is unwilling to help those trying to do the same.

I belief that we need to show some compassion, but if the immigrant (legal or otherwise) isn't willing to be a law abidding citizen or even combate lawlessness in their family, they must leave.

Phillip M Hotchkiss
Malta, Mt

Why do the offspring of rejects feel they have a right to say who can or can not live here?
Our ancestors came here because they were outcast . Some were considered street trash and beggars.
Why not give the immigrants the same chance our ancestor had? What ever happen to give us your poor your tired your weak and so on? I say any who is willing to pull their share is welcome .If you want to be a freeloader (most don't) then stay we're you are. I welcome any who want to see our nation grow

prelax
Murray, UT

My ancestors were not outcasts. We give immigrants a better chance today. Before 1976 America averaged 250,000 immigrants a year, by 1920 we hit 100 million, by 1970 we had 200 million, . Since 1976 we have averaged, In 1976 we changed the rules to allow immediate family and extended family, in 35 years we have reached 300+ million. The chance to come legally is there.

What happened to people obeying the law, why are so many permissive of dishonest activities that end up as multiple felonies to work?

My ancestors had to have permission to come here in the 1800's. Without the permission, people were not allowed to get on board the ship. If they snuck on, they became part of the crew, at no wage, and were returned to their country.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Just a little data for clarity here. In 2006 we had approximately 6.8 million illegal aliens working in the United States. At the same time we had 22 million American adults with a high school diploma or less who weren't working. PLUS 10.4 million teens without jobs.
Today there are 8 million illegal aliens working and 27 million American adults with low skills out of work.
Where's the compassion for them and their families? Many of our own less-educated and less-skilled are unemployed. Those who are working suffer from depressed wages and benefits because they have to compete with illegal aliens.
If illegal aliens lack work papers, send them home. They have no right to OUR jobs with unemployment numbers like that.
And I don't appreciate men of the cloth mingling the terms "illegal alien" and "immigrant." It clouds the issue and is deceptive.

SLars
Provo, UT

Please teach them right from wrong.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

NINA. It stands for no Irish need apply. Immigrants are not a burden on society. My wife is a immigrant from Russia and has an Incredible work ethic. President Kennedy is a descendant of Irish Catholic immigrants who were despised and treated as outcasts. Illegal immigrants did not cause the recession. Wall street and greed did.

Susan Roylance

This is a very special article. I thank the Deseret News for providing a more humanitarian view on the issue of immigration. Yes there are problems, but the people I have known that are undocumented immigrants are here to help their family. It is difficult to come, but they are willing to do it, in spite of the potential problems, to help their family. We do need good immigration laws, and we need to be governed by the rule of law, but we need to also recognize the complexity of the problems real people are facing.

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