I seem to remember this as the third picture of missionaries posing with Karl
Malone (though I think one of the others had his wife in the picture as well,
I'll have to google it) in the past few years. I wonder how often the
Malones have the missionaries over.
Chris B, I assume you're a mainstream Christian because most
non-Christian's don't devote the same time or energy to criticizing
"mormon" theology. Assuming this to be the case, and that you're
sincere when you say you disagree with 90% of "mormon" theology like the
Atonement, Gathering of Israel, etc; it would be interesting to hear which 11 of
the 13 Articles of Faith you disagree with (85% - giving you the benefit of the
doubt). Just curious...I personally think Mormon Christians and mainstream
Christians have a whole lot more in common. The areas we differ, in many cases,
are no more significant than differences between different Christian sects like
Catholics and Quakers, Methodists and Anglicans. IMHO
The comments here continue to confirm what I have learned about Mormons over 30
years of living among them.How very disappointing for the Mormons
and the Mormon Church.
Karl is no stranger to the LDS faith. His old boss (Larry H Miller) and many of
the Jazz organization were LDS plus many of Karl's old neighbors in SLC
were LDS. Malone is a family man and I'm sure there is alot in the church
that appeals to him. Doubtful he will ever join but ...you never know.
Guys, I don't think it good for us to be making disdainful remarks towards
Chris B for saying he disagrees with the majority of our theology. Some
comments are generally good and then add a jabbing remark accusing him of being
an unreasable man or make assumptions to why he believes the way he does.
Perhaps I am reading some of the comments wrong and am getting a wrong
interpretation on their meanings. If that is the case, then this comment need
not be here.
The reason most people don't believe in the LDS theology is because they
believe in a philosophical doctrine first promulgated at the Council of Nicea in
the fourth century and diluted down through the centuries. You have to research
and study the original doctrines taught in the first century while the Apostles
were still alive to find the truth. Many people see their church as a social
organization which teaches good without understanding the doctrines taught by
Malone is a good sport and I'm sure has a healthy respect for the church
because of Larry Miller. I wonder if John Stockton would ever pose with the
If Chris B. doesn’t agree with 90% of Mormon theology, he probably
doesn’t agree with 90% of the Bible either. Chris B. has apparently
convinced himself due to severe anti-Mormon pressure about things he
Chris B: the normal reaction to Non-LDS towards LDS Theology is much as you
expressed--a sort of 'brainwashed' interpretation of why Mormons
believe what they do. But many LDS--including young missionaries--will
express,in LDS terminology, a "testimony" that they've had their
beliefs confirmed by the "Holy Ghost." Seems to me that before someone
dismisses the possibility that such "confirmation" could have actually
occurred, a reasonable person would try to find out if such an occurrence is
even possible.But the normal reaction is "don't touch it,
it's of the devil!" As if the devil has all the power and God has none!
Can't even reveal his will to a prophet nowadays! Sorry, but
when it comes to spiritual matters--I'll stick with what I strongly believe
has happened to me!
I'm glad ChrisB says he "thinks" our beliefs are not correct:
"I think your missionaries convince themselves of things that they
don't know" and "I think you flip flop doctrines", thinking
these things is way different than knowing them...Chris...someday,
the light will descend upon you, and then you will "know" what we
"know" and you won't have to wonder if you are correct on your
assumptions. There is truth, and there is falsehood. There is no in-between.
Prophets are men. Moses was chastised by the Lord for mistakes. All men are.
Leaders are mortal men, not God. We all know they make mistakes, and we give
them that latitude. Hang in there, all will know truth in time.
You don't have to be a Mormon to be a good person. And being a Mormon does
not make you a good person either. Karl Malone is a good person and does what
he does because he do's what he has to do.
Chris B -what are you on about? If it hadn't been for the faith of the
early Mormons, there wouldn't be a Salt lake City for you to live in and
enjoy. They tolerate you, you need to find something postive to do with your
life and time. Cheers.
So I personally don't like comments that are negative about the church,
cause that is what defines me, but what I dislike even worse then that is when
people will mention a person or ID by name and say negative things about them.
As for Karl Malone, I remember when he first came to Utah and they found out his
birthday was July 24th, guess who was on the float? He got quite the welcome
and he gave back to the Utah Jazz for many years.
Karl Malone is a good man. He is a friend to the Mormon church.
This isnt a new development. My husband served his mission in that very area. He
didn't get to meet the "Mailman", but told me that others in his
area had dinner with him and stuff.
We were all surprised to see the photo of the Mailman with the missionaries even
more surprised to see one of the missionaries being my baby brother. We are
looking forward for Mothers Day to hear the story!
Seeing Karl makes me miss the good old days. I want to go in my backyard, put
the hoop down to 8' and throw down a mailman special with my left hand on
the back of my head. The Jazz could use some quirky Malone to get things
interesting again. Here's hoping the Jazz get back on track
Can we trade Corbin in for Karl Malone?
oatmeal, yes oatmeal is plural, something like alumni. anyway DN's job is
not to censor. You must be a liberal. CB loves to get under people's skin
and guess what? he did with you. Glad to see Karl with the Elders
@ bleedcougarblueThat would be 97 and 98...
another vote for Chris always look for his comments, have given me plenty of
chuckles, he seems like a good guy especially like his mark it down comments
The 'Mailman' a Mormon?Hmmmm....who knows?, maybe
someday!Karl always did have a strong 'rebel/not afraid to go
it alone if needed' streak in him. There's a ton of similarity
between that attitude and prevailing attitudes of the LDS church.Regardless, the 'Stockton to Malone' days were surely something
special. Man, how I HATED to lose in the '96 and '97 finals to the
Bulls. H-A-T-E-D it!....(PS - I thought it was really classy that
the one missionary's mom thanked Mrs. Malone for being so kind to her
missionary son on his birthday. Well done to both of you!)
I for one find Chris B to be entertaining and hope he continues to post.
I'm a BYU fan and LDS and I'm secure enough in my allegiance that none
of his remarks bother me. I don't mind thoughtful discussion about
differences in theology. Some of his Ute comments are outrageous, which is
entertaining, which I have a sneaking suspicion is part of his agenda. Keep it
up CB lol.
The mailman could still deliver.
@CatsSo what you are trying to say is that Chris B. is Neat-o?Yea...he's a real peach.
Cats,Thank you for the kind comments. My opinion on Mormons is that
I don't agree with 90% of your theology. I think your missionaries convince
themselves of things that they don't know, due to severe religious pressure
in your church. I think you flip flop doctrines and pick and choose when your
prophets are supposedly speaking for God or not, based on whether it fits your
agenda. HOWEVER, I strongly AGREE with the majority of the political
views held by the majority of your people. I also dislike that it seems
perfectly acceptable to mock Mormonism and yet it would be bigoted to mock
Islam. I don't like that hypocrisy from the left, and so in such cases
I'm happy to stand with the Mormons.And in protecting the only
definition of marriage that God agrees with I'll stand with the Mormons
Dear Oatmeal: Actually Chris B is really a great guy. He actually posts a lot
of good things about the Church and Mormons even though he is not LDS. In fact,
he will often defend the LDS Church and Mormons. He also has a lot of good
comments when it comes to politics and other issues. Unfortunately, he just has
this big insecurity about BYU which I hope he can eventually get over.
I totally agree, Oatmeal. Let's start a twitter campaign--- #BlockChrisB
Why is Chris B's snarky sarcasm against the LDS Church and BYU tolerated by
the Desnews, when posters who call him out are often moderated?
@Chris BI'm sure the missionares wouldn't mind stopping by
to give you their blessings and scriptures!
Pretty cool. The mailman has always been fairly open with his time and generous
I'd like to see Malone meet Kanter and Favors and teach them how to play in
This is neat-o I hope they shared their blessings with him and gave him lots of
scriptures to read.