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Published: Wednesday, May 8 2013 11:25 a.m. MDT

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atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not surprised BYU is ranked the highest among Utah schools given the heavily subsidized nature of the funding for the university. For that matter, considering the low tuition in Utah compared to other states, I'm somewhat surprised that all Utah schools aren't ranked higher.

Obama10
SYRACUSE, UT

Little ole' Weber beat the other state schools. Weber State, Weber State, Great! Great! Great!

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

@alt134
The tuition structure at BYU is unlikely to explain the differences in starting pay for graduates, but nice try.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@4601, no but the tuition structure DOES mean the average byu student pays significantly less than the true "cost" as those costs are subsidized by your church, more so than taxes subsidize state schools.

That was his point.

And it is correct

Rynosr
Sl, UT

@4601. It's exactly explained by BYUs tuition structure. As th article states:
"PayScale estimated the cost of attending each university, figuring in tuition, room and board, and the length of time to graduation, and compared those investments to the median salary earnings of graduates to determine the returns on a bachelor's degree."

Hence someone could graduate and make 30K, and their return would be higher because they leave with no student debt.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

BYU is a good school and prepares its students well, but…

I wonder if the study adjusts for commuter schools when adding in the costs of room and board. Since USU, WSU, Westminster, and the UofU all have considerably more students who commute than does BYU, I wonder if that would change the results.

I wonder about a study whose results are based on a voluntary response. I suppose there are statistical means to adjust for that, but I don’t know.

For a while BYU would not allow companies to recruit if their starting salaries were not high enough. If you paid, say $50k to start in Utah, you would not be welcome to recruit, but if your starting salary was $65k, even though it was in San Francisco where your standard of living would be lower (you can live better in SLC for $50k than in SF for $65k, shorter commute, lower cost of living) you would be welcome.

Then when you consider the $50k start was $$80k in 5 years while the $65k was $75k in five years, you know these are not best measures to determine where to go to school.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

BYU's value stems not only from its STEM curriculum, but their business and finance programs are among the nation's best. BYU's accounting program is #1 in the nation, and hedge funds and wall street recruit BYU students. Another factor is that BYU is very selective, so they get good students who have a high likelihood of success.

I graduated from Washington with PhD from Oregon State, and taught at Yale. Semi-retired now, but teaching a class at UCI. I once gave a seminar at BYU, and was very impressed by BYU. Since then, my daughter graduated from BYU and her husband (they met at BYU) landed a hedge-fund job in NYC area when he graduated with a degree in math and finance.

When I compare the cost of a BYU education to virtually any top 100 schools, the difference is obvious. BYU is a bargain. As for church support, well most state universities and colleges have public funding, too. And BYU's standards are very high - i'm not talking about the Honor Code, but their academic standards. Very high, indeed.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Can't complain. My investment has had a great return.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Compare the cost for a non-LDS at BYU to the cost of an out of state resident for Utah and U will find a number closer to the true cost per student. By doing this U will find that the state universities in Utah are subsidized at a higher rate by the government than BYU is subsidized by the LDS church.

Just like most government programs, public universities have a lot of waste. When U look at the entire list, U find that many of the highest ranked institutions on this list are private. Private universites (as a rule) do a much better job controlling their costs in relation to their offering.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@Chrissy B and Rynosr

with Utah being a community school drawing a larger percentage of their students locally (within driving distance) and many still living at home with mom & dad there's a much lower cost of living for room and board that don't factor into their educational costs that runs the opposite for BYU students who draw their students from all over the nation and the world.

Whatever advantage BYU has with lower tuition costs is easily made up by the majority of UofU students having zero room and board/cost of living expense because Mom & Dad are footing the bill. It probably washes out.

@CougFaninTx
Good point about non-LDS tuition costs at BYU vs out of state tuition costs at the community schools in Utah.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@BlueHusky
"And BYU's standards are very high - i'm not talking about the Honor Code, but their academic standards. Very high, indeed."

My son had a H.S. gpa of 3.93 but was still nervous about not getting accepted because his ACT score wasn't as high as he would have liked. His incoming freshman class had an average GPA well over 3.8 and (iirc) less than 20% of freshman applying were accepted.

It's a tremendous value.

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