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Published: Monday, May 6 2013 10:25 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Nothing serious happened. It was just a matter of some kids being kids. Nothing to see here.

Move along.

Go UTES!

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

Hopefully, we'll see the Utes back in the college rugby scene next year.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

"And I bet we won't hear a word from Chris Hill about this, rabble rabble rabble!!"

In all seriousness, this is very good news for the club, and hopefully it will give them enough time to procure a good coach and build a good foundation of a team to start back up with. As far as the club emerging stronger than it was before, it's way too early to say, but it will be much better disciplined, which can't hurt.

DaisyUtah
SLC, UT

Chris B: REALLY? Nothing serious happened. It was just a matter of some kids being kids. Nothing to see here.

Assaulting a trainer is SOMETHING SERIOUS! From what I have seen over the years a lot of the trainers are female so this means a Rugby player assaulted a female. THAT IS SERIOUS, male or female! I am glad that the University is taking this serious and the appropriate discipline is being administered! GOOD JOB UTES!

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

"a lot of the trainers are female so this means a Rugby player assaulted a female"

I agree with the overall point in the rest of your post but let's just stick to what is known for a fact.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

chris

"Nothing serious happened. It was just a matter of some kids being kids. Nothing to see here."

The University of Utah sport club manual lists "use of alcoholic beverages or any illegal drugs during club activities or sanctioned travel" as one of six infractions that result in expulsion.

Seems that either you or the U are dead wrong about the seriousness of "kids" drinking alcohol during sanctioned travel.

It would be interesting to see how the U would handle a similar incident of drinking and assaulting trainers if it was done by the Ute football team.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

"The result of the misdemeanor was a school-issued suspension, the terms of which the team then violated by "[competing] with many of its Pac-12 rivals during 2012/13 and [wearing] jerseys during the competitions bearing the University's drum and feather logo," the team's statement said."

It's interesting that in reviewing pictures from BYU's Varsity Cup National Championship win over Cal at BYU's South Field, it's obvious that BYU has no such reservations about BYU Rugby uniforms bearing the Y logo.

Why is Utah so opposed to their program being associated with the U?

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

The real question here is how in the world was the Utah team ever invited to the championship series ahead of Central Washington in the first place?

Reno Cougs Fan 68
Reno, NV

Rockwell,
In answer to your question. The BYU Rugby team did not get themselves suspended or put on probation by their school, so they are in good standing!!! See the difference?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Reno Cougs Fan 68

Sorry, but your explanation is lacking. Does Utah force every team that runs afoul of university policies to remove Utah logos from their uniforms? For example, will Utah's swimming team not be allowed to wear Utah logos next season?

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Rugby Magazine confirmed that Blake Burdette is no longer the head coach of the University of Utah. Burdette, a tight end on the 2004 Utah football team that finished the season undefeated, went on to become an Eagle hooker and play in the 2007 Rugby World Cup.

Several University of Utah players also signed their name to a press release distributed Monday, outlining the two years of infractions that saw the team’s 2013 season end abruptly before the annual Wasatch Cup match with rival BYU.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Kids? No kidding. They clearly have a lot of growing up to do.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Glad to see the suspension limited to 2013. As an objective fan of the U, unlike Chris B, I am glad that this kind of undisciplined action is being corrected. This is NOT how we want the university represented.

SportsFan: With the football team, this kind of action would not have been allowed by the coaches. Any kind of disciplinary action would have been taken swiftly, and the football team would not have tried to remedy the action trying to skirt the rules. Seems to me that would be the same answer if you asked about how the tds football team would have treated it. Disciplinary actions concerning alcohol and drugs are required in Provo too, so don't get too highhanded.

Rockwell: Utah is not "so opposed" to the program being associated with the University. If you read anything about the story, you will know that the team had been suspended and were not supposed to have been playing for the U during the suspension. Wearing the Utah logo was a violation of the suspension. A little knowledge goes a long way!

Go Utes!! Looking forward to watching more U rugby in the near future.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Rockwell: Rugby is a club sport. "Collegiate club sports are any sports offered at a university or college that compete competitively with other universities or colleges but are not regulated by the National Collegiate Athletic Association or a similar intercollegiate athletic association." They have different rules than NCAA sanctioned sports and thus the discipline is different. The team could have continued, just not under the Utah banner. This is COMPLETELY different than swimming, which is a NCAA sanctioned sport and is regulated by the NCAA. Utah won the national Rugby 7s title a couple of years ago, but it does not count as an NCAA team championship because it is a club sport.

See the difference?

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Rockwell,

The rugby team is a club sport, COMPLETELY different than swimming or anything else involving scholarships.

So yes, part of their suspension was to not wear anything bearing the Utah name or the drum & feather. This is of course not the case when the team is not under self-imposed suspension.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

@Rockwell
The problem is that the team is a club sport and not part of the athletic department. Once suspended you are no longer part of the University and so are not allowed to wear or represent your self as a part of the University. Doing so is tatamount to thumbing your nose at the administration and the suspension.
Chris B.
Let's educate you a little before you get some one hurt or get yourself in serious trouble.
Laughing off or ignoring a suspension, such as a suspended drivers license, suspended professional certification etc. can get you permanently banned for driving or working in that profession. That the Rugby team got off with a wrist slap for flauntingly ignoring the suspension is a blessing to the team and being flippant doesn't help.
@Whoa Nellie- Utah has a good Rugby team traditionally and won one national title.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Rockwell, still having trouble differentiating Campus Rec from University Athletics, I see. Campus Rec sticks to the rules put in place for them, University Athletics has a different set of procedures in addition to the NCAA procedures they have to follow. Once again, this has nothing to do with the swim team. A better example would be if the school's club hockey team broke Campus Rec's rules, they would have the same punishment.

UtahYouthRugby
SLC, UT

Happy to see that the Utes can finally move forward. @Whoa Nellie, clearly you know nothing about rugby. BYU vs. Utah is the most anticipated National Rugby Rivalry, let's get it going again next year! Go Utes!

DaisyUtah
SLC, UT

atl134: I thought I did clarify when I wrote: "THAT IS SERIOUS, male or female!" The FACTS are that there was alcohol and there was an ASSAULT of a trainer. (and a possibility that it was a female) It is also a fact that the University is taking appropriate steps in handling this situation by banning the team from representing them this year by not allowing them to have any representation of the school on their uniforms. I hope they get beyond this, learn from this and come back stronger and able to represent the U in a positive way!

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

VegasUte

"Utah is not "so opposed" to the program being associated with the University. If you read anything about the story, you will know that the team had been suspended and were not supposed to have been playing for the U during the suspension. Wearing the Utah logo was a violation of the suspension. A little knowledge goes a long way!"

You're trying to spin that the university was completely unaware that their own rugby team was still competing against other PAC 12 schools AFTER the rugby team was suspended?

Apparently, knowledge doesn't go far at all on the hill.

As far as discipline in the football programs goes; Bronco handles it by not even allowing a prized player to join the team for a year after a drinking incident in high school, while Kyle hands out a 3-game suspension to a starter for multiple failed drug tests.

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