navelvet"You think WE'RE the ones who are
"obssessed"?"No doubt about it, as your constant
BYU-obsessed PACy-WACer comments prove. Call us, little brother, when the Utes
win their first national team or player award; BYU's trophy cases are
brimming with such awards, including the most coveted awards in all of college
football - the Crystal Football National Championship Trophy and the Heisman
Stop The Nonsense:"I think the Ute fans who posted here are
pathetic. #obsessedwithBYU..."You think WE'RE the ones who
are "obssessed"? There are 19 comments posted above me, but only 4 from
Indy-WACers regarding roscoe's new twitter account. On the other hand,
there are 6 comments dedicated to just me alone! And that's not even
counting the number of our jealous little brothers' obsessions with the
OTHER Ute fans on this thread. It isn't Ute fans who are obsessed with
their little brother. It's little brother who's obsessed with Ute
Clark W. GriswoldSandy, UtahYou forgot one.If you
are willing to go back to the paleozoic era, then one more stat becomes
relevant.Wait for it, wait for it.National
championshipsUtah 0BYU 1Thanks, Clark! I really
felt like that was missing from the discussion.
Wally WestSLC, UT"to Y Grad / Y Dad3 words for ya...
pot. kettle. black."Cool!Don't read me.Don't comment.Glad you got it with so little
to Y Grad / Y Dad3 words for ya... pot. kettle. black.
Clark W. GriswoldDude, not sure what you're using as the source
for your stats, but you should stop using Utah stats dot com for BYU's
stats, they're not even close to accurate.Overall Records:BYU 530-388-26 (58%)Utah 628-435-31 (59%)Unfortunately,
Utah's leather helmet era record has been steadily losing ground to BYU
during the last half century, while BYU has soared ahead of the Utes.Overall Records Last 50 YearsBYU 398-203-4 (66%)Utah 314-257-3
(55%)btw, how many of Utah's bowl winning teams finished in the
Top 25?bottom line, it's more impressive to have a better
overall season and lose to a Top 25 team in a bowl, than to have a mediocre
season and beat another mediocre team in a bowl.Final Top 25
Finishes are proof of that!
Clark W. GriswoldGotta luv Ute fans and their meaningless ancient
history.It took the Utes over a hundred years of playing football to
crack the AP Poll for the very first time.AP Top 25 FinishesPrior to 1994BYU 12Utah 0During the bcs eraBYU 5Utah 4During the Bronco/Kyle eraBYU 4Utah
3"If your[sic] tracing stats that go back a half a century, you
might as well trace them all the way back to the beginning."BYU
doesn't need to trace its stats back to 1922; the Cougars have accomplished
far more on a national scale during the last 40 years, since 1972, when LaVell
become BYU's head coach, than the Utes have accomplished during their
entire 119 years of playing football.
Clark W. Griswold"Why are you tracing your stats back to 1962?
Why not go all the way back to when college football began?"Because NOBODY, except for a few kids on the hill, cares about Utah's
ancient football history against teams like the Crescents, YMCA, Salt Lake High,
Diamond Butchers, the 9th Cavalry, Carlisle Indian School, and the All
Hallows.Football at BYU was little more than a club sport from 1922
to 1961. Because BYU didn't even have their own football stadium for most
of that time period, 30 of the first 40 games in the series were played at Utah.
Unfortunately for U, during Utah's "glory days", the Utes did
absolutely NOTHING on a national scale. Pre-WACNational
Championships - 0Heisman Trophy Winners - 0National
Individual Award Winners - 0Top 25 Finishes - 0 (Utah didn't
even crack the AP Top 25 until 1994)Bowl Games - 1Then,
in 1962, BYU decided to start taking football seriously, building their own
stadium, and joining with Utah to create the WAC.Utah won their
first WAC title in 1964.BYU won their first conference championship
in 1965.Since 1965, BYU has won 22 conference championships; Utah
@ UoU 1991Dude! Why are you tracing your stats back to 1962? Why not
go all the way back to when college football began? Head to Head:Utah 56BYU 34Tie 4Bowl Record:Utah
13-4BYU 13-17-1 Conference Championships:Utah
24BYU 23Overall Record:Utah 628-435-4 (.588)BYU 484-369-26 (.565)Gotta love Cougie fans and their selective
stats that they bend to put in their favor. If your tracing stats that go back a
half a century, you might as well trace them all the way back to the beginning.
Utah OWNS U Cougies!
navelvet"It's a good thing Twitter restricts the number of
characters one may peck out, because roscoe never really had very much to say
anyway."Typical childish name calling to go along with your
typical clueless drivel.It's laughable that you're so
obsessed with a team and coach that you try so hard to pretend is irrelevant.
UoU 1991Park City, UTnavelvet is still trying to rationalize how a
program that has so completely "dominated" BYU head-to-head, has itself
been so completely dominated by BYU nationally and in the last half century._____Yet with all of the stats you posted. No power
conference has officially invited BYU to join them in all that time.Colorado owns BYUSan Jpse St. owns BYU.Perhaps when you have
better records against them, the Big Sky Conference will take you.
Can we limit NV to Twitter. Ah, well, it doesn't matter. A comment headed
with Naval Vet is code language for "there's nothing worth reading
here, folks. Move along."I too would relish the opportunity to
get insights from Bronco direct because, unlike most of the pro-Utah posters who
regularly post on BYU articles, as well as some of our own Cougars In Name Only,
I beleive Bronco to be an honest man. I would trust his input.I
hope he doesn't READ them though. Somehow, I suspect comments aimed at him
could become caustic. Go figure!
Naval VetBronco may only be 3-5 versus Kyle, but, Bronco has more
Top 25 finishes, more Top 15 finishes, more conference championships, more bowl
games, more winning seasons, an overall better record, and has finished with
higher national rankings 5 of the 8 seasons during the Bronco/Kyle era. Kyle has
2008, and little else.
navelvet is still trying to rationalize how a program that has so completely
"dominated" BYU head-to-head, has itself been so completely dominated by
BYU nationally and in the last half century.Here's a clue.Since 1962 (51 seasons) when BYU and Utah helped create the WAC and
started playing in a conference that still exists today:National
ChampionshipsBYU 1 > Utah 0Heisman Trophy WinnersBYU
1 > Utah 0AP Top 25 FinishesBYU 17 > Utah 5Conference ChampionshipsBYU 23 > Utah 6Head-to-HeadBYU 29 > Utah 22Bowl AppearancesBYU 31 > Utah 16OverallBYU 402-209-4(66%) > Utah 318-262-4(55%)Unfortunately for U, there aren't many fans still alive who remember
watching that exciting 5-5 Utah team win the last of Utah's pre-WAC
conference championships.btw, ranked bowl opponents (both polls)BYU 16 > Utah 4
RE:Naval VetPhiladelphia, PAAnd what is crushing your soul?
That the only football news is about BYU?Why am I not surprised that 3 of
the first 4 comments are BYU haters. They hate BYU so much they spend more time
on BYU then their own team. Just proving my point many years ago Vet, that a
large percentage (20% to 25%) of Utah fans really just haters of BYU not really
fans of Utah.
re: naval vetHang on to those stats. They'll keep you warm as
you suffer through another losing season next year. You might want to start
looking for a new HC along with a new AD. So sorry that you don't even
have women's gymnastics to beat your chest about this year.I
love that Bronco is willing to add a little more insight to the BYU football
team that we wouldn't otherwise get. Maybe kyle will follow Bronco's
lead once again like he does with offering football recruits.
I've never understood why people feel the need to use the rivalry to
personally attack individuals. I've met Bronco Mendenhall
before and he is incredibly nice and personable. But people feel the need to
attack him and abuse him because he is the head coach of BYU Football?I am a BYU fan and truth be told I think Kyle Whittingham is a terrific coach.
Honestly I can't think of a better man to coach the UofU team. I doesn't matter who you are or who you support showing respect for
someone and what they have accomplished should be a given. Its kind of
ridiculous that I even have to write this. People feel because the internet can
hide their identity they can act anyway they please. I dare you to meet Bronco
one time and tell me you don't like him and would speak to him in the
manner you show on these comment boards.
Firstly, I think it's great that Mendenhall is using Twitter, as I think it
will help him connect even better with recruits and with the fan base.Secondly, I think the Ute fans who posted here are pathetic. #obsessedwithBYU
Why am I not surprised that the only Indy-WACer commenting on an article about
mendenmidmajor and Y had nothing to say about mendenmidmajor nor the Y, but was
only focused on U fans? Losing 3 in a row, 8 of the last 11, and the ENTIRE
series is still crushing your anguished soul, isn't it AltaHawk?It's a good thing Twitter restricts the number of characters one may peck
out, because roscoe never really had very much to say anyway.
Why am I not surprised 2 utes would be the first to comment on an article about
Bronco and BYU ? #getalife
"That's been one of those lessons where I've learned, 'Never
say never,’ ” Mendenhall said.Never say never...as in
"we'll NEVER lose an in-state recruit again"?
I look forward to reading his thoughts. I'm sure they will be very