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Published: Friday, May 3 2013 6:52 a.m. MDT

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A Man's Perspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Given that the immigration bill includes massive increases in white-collar visas - the H-1B visa, and given that this visa has had a long, proven record of being a "de facto" indentured servant program, I cannot support such a bill. Nobel Prize in Economics winner and free market champion Milton Friedman has described the visa as a "government subsidy" given to employers. US STEM workers should not have to compete against a government subsidy. No wonder 2/3 of US STEM workers no longer work in those fields after 10 years or so. No wonder college students don't want to go into STEM fields, and no wonder older STEM workers have high unemployment. The H-1B visa is riddled with fraud, abuse, and RARELY is used to supply workers with rare skills. The USA doesn't need hundreds of thousands of average, lower wage workers that are used to downgrade wages and force older US STEM workers into unemployment. The USA needs to put those unemployed and underemployed workers back to work. This visa prevents that, and should be lessened, NOT increased.

Down with this bill.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Whether the worker hangs drywall, makes beds at a hotel, processes turkeys or writes code for Facebook the issue is the same: Cheap labor.
The insult is compounded here because these foreign professionals are educated in OUR universities.
There is no shortage of domestic talent in engineering and computer science.
But this group seeks to protect their own interest by securing cheaper workers.
Speaking of protecting your own interests, it did not go unnoticed that this article mentions ONLY pro-amnesty groups such as the Sutherland Institute, the Chamber of Commerce and the Utah Compact people. A bit slanted, don't you think?

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Bill Mahar was interviewing a guest on his HBO show who said his friend was going to be hiring 30 engineers from India for a project. Bill commented that hiring Indian engineers would be less expensive. Yes his guest told him but this was not the primary reason for hiring them. He explained that due to the decline in American educational standards, that American engineers are not as smart as the Indian engineers. (his words not mine).

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@cjb

I work in the software industry. I find the words of the guest of Mahar amusing. Americans invented computers and software and still the USA is the overwhelming leader in software, and this guy claims that India has smarter workers? I have nothing against foreign workers, especially those from India. Some are my friends. But smarter they are not. The American workers are extremely intelligent also. In fact, I would say that neither are really smarter than the other. But if Indian workers were so much smarter, then their salaries would be higher than those of Americans, not cheaper. Better/smarter should be more expensive, correct? However, culture is another issue. Sometimes language/culture barriers cause the Indian workers to not fully understand the client and vice-versa. Sometimes the Indian workers say "yes" too often - this might sound like a good thing, but taking on more than is possible leads to failures late and that is expensive.

Anyway, comments like those are just an excuse. Indeed, the H-1b visa IS a govt. subsidy.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Lobbyists for illegal immigrant trespassers are trotting out anything/everything they can to gain amnesty for lawbreakers.

The h1B visa program, and the low-skilled, low-income employees SHOULD have been considered by Congress as 2 separate issues.

The H1B (high-tech) employers simply "glammed on" to the "low-skilled" movement; hoping to achieve their goals of REDUCING labor costs. There's no shortage of high-skilled workers, only a shortage of employers who will pay them a decent wage based on their long educational process.

Big money lobbyists will be hitting this issue hard in the next few weeks. If you haven't already done so, let your Representatives know how you feel.
Remember, lobbyists ONLY speak for those who pay them. YOU must speak for citizens!

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