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Published: Wednesday, May 1 2013 1:25 p.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

"btw, since 1985..."
The modern era of football began in 1998. Could you update your copy-and-paste statistics, and put the old-timey-leather-helmet stuff to rest?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Snack WAC:

"Remind us again how many of those 450 national championships Utah's men's teams have won."

20. Which places Utah ahead of our Pac-12 brethren Arizona (18), Oregon (19), Washington (6), Oregon St. (3), and Washington St. (2).

I can't believe you went there.

Salt Lake City, Utah


"Remind us again how many of those 450 national championships Utah's MEN's teams have won."

Sorry, but 20 isn't even close.

Utah's MEN's Ski Team is the only Utah MEN's team ever to win a national championship, in 1981.

Which places the Utah MEN dead last amongst your PAC 12 BRETHREN!


Utah's COED Ski Team won 9 national championships - the last in 2003

Utah's WOMEN's Gymnastics Team won 9 national championships - the last in 1995.

I can't believe you're so uninformed about your own team.

Salt Lake City, Utah

The inconsistency of Utah fans is baffling:

vegasute: the PAC is a premier conference when considering ALL sports - thus the well deserved moniker "Conference of Champions" - Not much going on in Provo?

uteBusters: #1-ranked BYU men's volleyball team, #4-ranked BYU men's rugby team, #23-ranked BYU men's track & field team, #39-ranked BYU men's tennis team

U 90: Really, you gonna go all tennis smack now. If tennis, volleyball and track float your boat, that's really nice, but

twofer: The PAC-12, as a conference, has won over 450 national championships

midpacmajor: Over 95% of which were won in a sport other than football.

Snack PAC: Remind us again how many of those 450 national championships Utah's men's teams have won.

navelvet: 20. Which places Utah ahead of our Pac-12 brethren

phantomblade: Sorry, not even close.

PAC man
Anaheim, CA


So the Utah men have only ever won one national championship, way back in 1981?

And that in a college sport so minor that the only FBS schools that the Utes have to compete against are Colorado, New Mexico and Wyoming.


U 90
Corona, CA

talkinsports, don't trick yourself in to thinking BYU has ever been considered for a BCS bowl. Boise(2), TCU(2), Utah(2) and Hawaii(1) were all undefeated. No BCS bowl has ever considered inviting a 2 or 3 loss BYU team.

Jealous, are you saying 3 in a row, 4 of 5, 7 of 10, 13 of 20 is luck? Get use to it... it's the new normal.

East Salt Lake City, Utah

@talkinsports: btw, the PAC 10.2 is close to finishing the bcs era without a bcs championship; how embarrassing, for the so called, "conference of champions"!


BTW, the BCS era is over but the so called "legacy program" with a "national brand" finished:

With 10,000 Quest T-Shirts (see 2008)
One airport celebration for a 1-0 team (see 2009)
And no BCS berth

Mesa, AZ


Brigham Young

Texas Christian, Boise State, and Utah have been tearing it up over the last decade, but in 1984 Brigham Young did something none of those other "Little Big" teams have even gotten a legitimate shot at: they finished #1. Unfortunately,

BYU '84 differs from those other teams in another way too: they did not play a single ranked opponent. The only so-called "national champion" that didn't (though Oklahoma came very close in 1956).

BYU's 1984 opponents went 61-85-3, placing their schedule 96th amongst 98 division 1A schools.

And yet their performance was as weak as their schedule.

They won five games by a touchdown or less, from a 20-14 win at 3-7-1 Pitt in their opener to a 24-17 win against 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl-- by far the worst bowl opponent ever faced by a so-called "national champion." How bad was Michigan? They finished 6th in the Big Ten, and the Big Ten was a horrid 12-15 against nonconference opponents and 1-5 in bowl games. The only conference in the country that was as bad as the Big 10 was the WAC itself.

Orem, UT


Despite your jealous whining, BYU's 1984 performance was obviously STRONG enough to be selected CONSENSUS National Champions by all five major selecting organizations of the day.

btw, if Michigan had beaten Ohio St in their regular season finale, the Wolverines would have been playing in the Rose Bowl instead of the Holiday Bowl.

btw2, BYU will be playing for TWO national championships this Saturday - the Varsity Cup Collegiate Rugby National Championship versus Cal at 1 p.m. at BYU's South Field, and the NCAA Men's Volleyball National Championship versus UC Irvine at 7 p.m. in UCLA's Pauley Pavilion.

Go Cougars!

Layton, UT

"You state "we got tired of dominating them." I'd like to know just how many of those dominating games you actually played in to warrant saying "we"?"

Really?...So now, nothing Utah does means anything because the fans didn't play in the game? Wow.

Dear haters, The first step to recovery is: Admitting that you have a problem.

Go Utes.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA


"Sorry, but 20 isn't even close."

Sorry, I misread your challenge. Utah had won 20 national championships in all sports. You wanted to just cherry pick the "Men's" sports, although I'm not sure why. The Pac-12 is the "Conference of Champions". Not the "Conferences of Men's Sports Champions".

As for the Men...

(1) Basketball -- 1916 (AAU), 1944 (NCAA)
(2) Skiing -- 1981 (plus 9 other NCs after the NCAA combined the Men's team with the Women's)

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA



AAU champion? How about your PeeWee league champions?

The Helms Athletic Foundation lists Wisconsin(20-1) and Army(15-0) as the 1916 and 1944 national champions, respectively.

The sad truth is, the Utes have only won one solo men's national championship, and that over 30 years ago in a college sport that is so obscure that hardly any fans watch or follow the sport and only 3 other FBS schools participate - Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico.

If not for Utah's women, the Utes would be practically non-existence on the national championship scene.

Fashion Police
Olympus Cove, Utah


"Dear haters, The first step to recovery is: Admitting that you have a problem."

Sounds like you're ready to take your first step; maybe you could invite the usual suspects from the hill to join you.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA


You should talk to your friend, Chris B, who posted the following as the 2nd post on this article:

"I dont care if we do drop a Pac 12 game, I hope we stop playing Utah state and byu all together.

They do nothing to help our profile when we win(which we're a combined 7 out of 8) against them last 8 games."

let's roll

Serious question: What's the PAC-12 rule on minimum number of sports that a member is required to participate in. Clearly, few PAC-12 teams field men's volleyball teams, and the few who do are in the same conference as BYU. Also, I don't believe Utah has a men's track and field team. Are they the only conference member who doesn't?

I know Title IX has a huge impact on such issues, but I enjoy not only FB and BB but the "Olympic Sports" as well and have been sorry to see their demise over the past two decades.

It would be great if the U and the Y could have rivalries across a wide range of sports.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

This is the Pac-12's attempt to weaken their schedules. For all you Utah and BYU fans, we will soon find out which school is afraid to play the other. The U has used the scheduling excuse to elminate playing USU and BYU. Now with another game slot opening up, does anyone think that the U will play BYU and USU on a consistent basis? They (Utah) will try and find another cupcake to play..........and if you believe BYU and USU fit the bill, I'm sure Utah will again schedule these two schools regularly.

Time will tell. We'll see if the U will walk the walk.

Layton, UT

Reading comments on either BYU or Utah football articles is a study in frustration and hilarity. The fact that so many fans for both teams are divorced from reality is astounding. They can both quote stats so cherry picked as to remind one of the announcer on Major League, I'm just waiting for one or both types of fans to pull out a "Oh Yeah, well my team is undefeated playing at home in October against teams with a left handed QB for the last 47 and a half years." For the love of everything holy, if you can't see that both BYU and Utah have had great teams and miserable teams over the last couple decades then you are blind or an idiot. I get not wanting to praise your rival, but you ought to, at that point, shut it. When you try to argue that either of these teams has been dominant, or lousy, in comparison to the other, you look like a fool.

Go Cougs.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

I like the idea of going to 8 league games; it gives you an additional non-conference game. The PAC 12 needs to follow suite with the SEC.

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