If the report is true, several posters on this board will have gotten their
years-long wish. I will not be among those rejoicing. O'Connor, for the
most part, knew what he was doing. The Jazz were fortunate to have had him.
The Jazz were not in the finals in 1999!
The king is dead. Long live the king. It happens. Time to move on with a younger
set. Hopefully, the Jazz will make some good decisions with the core bse of
players that they have in Favors, Kanter, Hayward, and Burks. Youth must be
looks like linsey going to clean house, even get his boss out.
@louisana jazz manLindsey is not cleaning house, and in fact I'm
pretty sure he is the last person that wants to see KOC leave. If Kevin O Conner
is going it is because he wants to go. He won't really say what he feels
to the media, but you can bet that O Conner is fed up with ownership. O Conner
is a basketball junkie and he loves this stuff but I think he feels that with
Larry Miller gone, Gail and Greg Miller are in over their heads. It has to be
frustrating to finally have the chance to bring in high lottery picks with a ton
of potential and then see the head coach fail to develop them. This is the same
head coach that the Millers gave an extended contract to that has never
displayed the ability to be a head coach. I think I would run away from this
train wreck if I were in O Conners shoes as well!. I wish him well with his next
I'd kind of like to know what the demanding day-to-day duties could be that
are so stressful. Sure, he has to know who is available and what money can be
spent, etc, but day-to-day? It's not like being an E.R. doctor who has
life-making decisions at any time of any day and several in the same day. And
we all know KOC was paid very well for his services, just like Frank Layden was
as well. Pro Baxketball (and all major professional sports) is way
out of line with the salaries versus the responsibility and what players,
coaches, etc are paid for what they do. And then they always grumble and
complain!! Go figure.....
O'Connor has positioned Utah Jazz perfectly for the upcoming non-fantasy
basketball team building season. The Core Four -- Favors, Kanter, Hayward and
Burks -- all have "future All Star" written all over them. Jefferson
and both Williamses can be replaced. Jefferson has been improving in small
increments but his tendencies to hold the ball on offense and his continued
Boozerlike failure to commit to helping teammates on defense continue to
surface, particularly in tight games and when the team falls behind. Marvin
seldom adds enough on either end of the court to make much difference. He lacks
that streak of meanness. Mo has flashes of brilliance but tends to shoot way
too much rather than setting up his teammates. His man beats him way too much,
penetrating at will and exposing the weaknesses of the interior defense. If Utah
can add a couple of dynamic playmaker guards and a couple of outstanding outside
shooters, the Jazz can be a dominating team offensively as the Core Four mature
and improve. The Core Four have shown a capacity to play aggressive defense.
Add some other players who are willing and able to play tough D, and long
playoff runs could ensue.
@netmasterWhere can I pick up a pair of those rose colored glasses like
you have?In truth netmaster, I'm buying what your selling. I
also believe in the core 4, and with some strategic off season moves this team
can get better. What you didn't mention though was anything about coaching
or ownership troubles the team has. Without fixes in these areas that hoped for
improvement will probably not happen.
KOC is like a boxer fighting 31 opponents but with one hand tied behind his
back. He has to woo NBA players to a place they don't want to be (market
size, perception of Utah's culture being the reasons) or he's forced
to overpay to get them to overlook those things. He has to do all this with an
owner who has goals that are contrary to what KOC wants, and with a coach
who's in the bottom 5 of NBA coaches. Frankly, the fact that the Jazz are
as good as they are is a testament to the marvelous job KOC has done.
You know JBQ, Someday you will be in your 40s and deemed "old" by
someone and left out of contention for some career move. Maybe at that point in
your life you will come to the realization that "youth" is not the
answer, but rather good solid experience. But in truth, at some point your
"experience" will be less valuable to someone else than your
"youth" will be and you will wonder why people are thinking you are
irrelevant even when you don't think you are. Good luck then. In all
aspects of basketball--experience wins out.
@ DaddioohI happen to be already past my 40's and I'm sure
considered old in a lot of circles, but you are comparing apples and oranges my
friend. In the NBA you are considered in your prime after about 4 or 5 seasons.
Remember, even rookies have been playing high school, AAU, and college
basketball for most of their lives and so they are pretty experienced by the
time they get drafted. The best players do continue to grow and improve but by
26 or 27 they are in their prime. The Jazz have some great potential in their
young players and if coached properly should start becoming the
"experienced" players on this team in the next couple of years. We could
use some good "more experienced" players over that time to round things
out but I sure don't want the Jazz to be building this team with guys that
are already on the decline.I enjoyed my youth and I am all in favor
of seeing some good young players to join the core 4 and build for the future.
Let old guys like you and me sit back and enjoy the ride.
@Brave Sir RobinSounds like an excuse.I believe the jazz
can do better.But not until they change their name.Really, who wants to be a "jazzy", tit causes no dread in others, and
does not inspire anyone, and it has no winning tradition just 15 years of
futility only to lose in the finals. NO true champion ever took 15 years to make
it to final.But in the old ABA, no one had any problems with being a
"Star", and the Stars won a championship.Names are your
Opinions!A name change would bring a championship! Really? Why didn't
anyone ever think of that before? I can see the anxiety in LeBron's or
KD's eyes having to go up against the Stars instead of the Jazz.
That's a whole lot cheaper than paying big salaries for good players.Also, missed by one person recently, Daddiooh was referring to change in the
head of basketball operations when responding to JBQ, not the players. It pays
to refer to the antecedent before responding. Of course, one person is too
smart to accept that there might be stress in a job that is not in the E.R. At
least the ER doctor doesn't have hundreds of thousands of fans scrutinizing
and questioning his every move. The vet correctly shot down the opinion
that Lindsay is cleaning house. Quite the feat to fire your own boss, but it
ain't happening. However, he seems to be putting thoughts in KOC's
head that are not there. Kevin's job is to analyze talent. He can do that
as well on the East Coast as in Utah. He can still work for the Jazz from there.
Glad O'Conner is staying. Sure he isn't perfect we
couldn't upgrade there so why bother. O'Conner has done
remarkably well considering the ? owner he now has to operate under.
Bring Sloan back........he wants to coach in a small market. (Utah)
If i had the russian's money...i'll buy the team...just to fire