whooptie-frickin'-doo!he'll soon be a has-been like his
brother, and it has nothing to do with his orientation, but with being 34 years
old and having no "game" left.No, I take that back, he
cannot be a has been because he never was.
The fact is he also did this at the end of his career knowing likely there will
be no aftermath as he is likely at the end of the line in his career...
The jaded side of me looks at Collins and says, "Great career move--now he
can prolong his NBA career by at least a couple of years, plus he gets great
publicity for a post-NBA career as an activist."
I would like to see the Jazz sign him as a back up after Jefferson and Milsap
depart. He has basketball smarts and would be a good presence on the team with a
lot of young players.
@New to Utah --"He deceived many girlfriends including the woman
he was engaged to."@gdog3finally --"I still
think he could have shown more courage doing it earlier before he was engaged
and wasting the hearts and invested time of his various girlfriends over the
years."In all these debates about gay marriage, several of the
anti-gay crowd havd blithely opined that gay men should just pick out a woman
and get married like everyone else.And now you guys are condemning
Collins for trying to do just exactly what those folks told him to do.Condemned if he does, condemned if he doesn't. He just can't win
either way, can he? No surprise there, I suppose.@U-tah
--"I don't recall seeing anyone else's sexual
preference being the topic for two days."Heterosexuality is
already widely accepted. Unfortunately, the same can not yet be said of
homosexuality. Until then, gay kids need successful role models to
look up to -- and straight adults need to be reminded that, yes, gay people ARE
successful and contributing members of our society. And that's what all
this hoopla is about.
It is pretty sad day in America when the ticker tape on the ESPN channel for two
days let's the whole world know we have a gay NBA player. I don't
recall seeing anyone else's sexual preference being the topic for two days.
We are a sick and pervese nation having to magnifiy ones private life as such.
Keep it to yourself and let's report worthy news.
I had never heard of Jason Collins. He certainly was not anything close to a
star. He deceived many girlfriends including the woman he was engaged to. He got
his 15 minutes of fame and Sports Illustrated, ESPN and Obama got to proclaim
their tolerance. It was actually poor timing because he diminished the NBA
@Bob A. Bohey - "The onus has always been on Collins to prove his ability.
Coming out doesn't change that fact."Yours is precisely the
point that Brad is making in the article. Giving the "why" and
"wherefore" behind an argument isn't pointless.Nice
job, great article.
News flash to Rock: The onus has always been on Collins to prove his ability.
Coming out doesn't change that fact. Your article is pointless.
I definitely understand the timing of the announcement. Not too many years ago,
fear of gay marriage was a contributing factor that put Bush back in for a
second term. Now the majority of Americans are in favor. He also said he
didn't want to do it while still under contract because there will be a
media circus, at least for a time, around him. Any team that signs him now will
do so knowingly. It does, however, lead to an unfortunate side effect. If he
doesn't get signed, there will always be doubts about whether that was
because of his sexuality, or just his play. On the other side, as the author
already seems to be intimating, if he does get signed, it will only be for the
publicity and because he's gay. People on both sides of the issue are only
going to see it as a "purely basketball decision" if it goes their
way.re: Chris BI really hope your kidding. Being straight
carries no negative consequences and is assumed. Every mention of your wife
and/or girlfriend is "coming out." Being gay brings a long list of
possible negative consequences.
At age 34, he has nothing to prove. He is in the waning days of a basketball
career. He can work to get on with a team, but the other issue won't
really be an issue if he can play. Had he made his announcement earlier in his
careeer, then it would have been more interesting to see how things went for
him. In the end,I say to all: Move on, folks. There's really nothing
here to see. Don't make a big deal of this.
Great play by Collins - if he isn't picked up by a team, it will be because
he came out as being gay, not because he is past his prime.
I would like to look at the bigger picture of Jason Collins' coming out. If
you have listened to his interview on GMA today, or read his essay in its
entirety, you will see his reasons:1. He would like to help break
stereo types of what "gay" traditionally has meant,2. If lives can
be saved, if young people struggling with their own gayness can see a
professional athlete coming out, receiving the support of those around him, it
gives him/her the courage to hang in there, to not commit suicide because they
feel so alone,etc., 3. As everyone else wants, Jason, too, wants people to
know and understand him for who HE is, all of him,4. Having gone his life
keeping this a secret, this has to be cathartic for Jason to finally be able to
share and tell people this about himself. People want to be known. Jason is no
exception,5. Jason was not looking for publicity in doing this. He held
off coming out for years because he did not want to be a distraction to his
team, to basketball,6. The timing was right- people can accept now a gay
Although I understand the courageous and brave tag given Collins for
'coming out' so to speak, I still think he could have shown more
courage doing it earlier before he was engaged and wasting the hearts and
invested time of his various girlfriends over the years.
I never suspected John Amaechi was gay. I did suspect that he didn't put
much effort into his game after getting a big contract from the Jazz. As far as
Jason goes, he's certainly had a better work ethic than Amaechi. He was a
solid defensive player at one time - but that's about it.My
first thought on hearing his comments was that he knew his NBA career was over
and decided to use his last year to "come out" so something good could
come out of it. I certainly wish him well and I appreciate it was still
difficult to do.
He hasn't proven his worth yet so, I doubt much will change with his
"gay" declaration. I suspect this publicity is about all of the
attention he will get from his declaration. His career is over.
"I've never "come out" as a heterosexual."So
you're single? Never had a girlfriend? Never been on a date? Actions taken
by heterosexuals like myself broadcast our heterosexuality. The reason it's
not a big deal is because it's not controversial and everybody just assumes
it anyway so when it's established it doesn't make a difference from
what they already thought."If he wants to be gay, fine, be gay.
Go get a boyfriend."Do you really think he could just go get a
boyfriend and not have anybody notice or care? That's just obvious straight
privilege on your part. Fact is there is a sizable percentage of the population
who would condemn him getting a boyfriend and if he didn't out himself as
gay then someone else would have outted him.
If he doesn't land with a team, no doubt the gay community will claim his
decision to be gay as the reason. If he does land with a team, I can already
see the nauseating special attention that will be given to him.I
can't think of a single heterosexual NBA player who ever decided he need to
tell us he was straight. I've never "come out" as a
heterosexual. I've never told my friends, never told my coworkers, never
told my neighbors, never told our commnity. If he wants to be gay,
fine, be gay. Go get a boyfriend. But why does he need to tell me? Stop
looking for special recognition for having told me your sexual preferences. I never told you mine.
Rock - you hit the nail on the head for this issue. I was happy to read your
compare / contrast with Jackie Robinson. Your point of view mirrors what the
team President of the Brooklyn Dodgers said to Robinson - "We just want to
win. Your job is to run those bases and score." I, for one, hope Collins
can get back on a team next year and continue his career. I'm sure
that's what he wants. His sexual orientation shouldn't matter one bit
about how he's treated - as you said, it's about the stat sheet.Great article, Rock!