I think the real issue here is bullying.It is nobody's place to
judge anybody. I don't understand homosexuality, and so it is not my place
to judge it. I don't know all the reasons why people are the way they are.
Just because somebody is different, doesn't give people the right to bully
that person. You don't have to compromise your convictions to have
compassion.On a side note: Way too much publicity. Just go live
I can't believe I am saying it: first time ever, I have to agree with
@Chris B "I have never "come out" as a heterosexual. I just live my
life."I can't wait for the day when people can be
themselves without fear of retribution. Some day it won't require big name
people to say "Hey, I am not the 'norm' either and I am OK".
I can't wait until gay can be considered the 'norm' along with
hetrosexual. Kids and adults alike that are struggling with being themselves
need role models to make it 'ok'. Why don't public figures that
come out and say I am ADHD, or have dilexia, diabetis, a drug problem, etc.
hassled. It is just another opportunity to say look I am like you and I am
fine. As soon as gay or straight is not a defining characteristic of a person
and they can just be who they are without hiding, then people need to stand up.
I applaud Jason Collins and all the other celebrities for saying it is OK, we
don't care. It helps those with biases be more accepting and those dealing
with hiding who they are be able to move forward.
The teen years are filled with turmoil and confusion. Sexuality is the main
source of confusion. That is why you have schools called high schools and junior
highs to allow for the emotional and psychological development of the young.
There has never been a problem with this set of guidelines. Local school boards
have set the standards. Unfortunately, there is "trouble in them thair
hills". The U.S. Department of Education wants to break down local control
even though the U.S. Constitution stipulates that education is a state function.
Jason Collins is a political football being used by the media and the current
administration to influence the views of the young.
@Mayfair --"Don't inform everyone of your sexual
orientation. That goes for anyone of any age. They can't be bullied is no
one knows.........Simple. Problems solved."Seriously?? Your
solution is to tell gay people to go back in the closet and stay there??Cmon, folks. Gay people have just as much right to live openly and
honestly as the rest of the world. Telling them to shut up and stay in hiding is
NOT the way to go. Heck, it isn't even Constitutional. Remember the Equal
Protections clause? Gay people have the right to legal protection,
too. And yes, Mayfair, that means being able to live without having to hide for
fear of bullying.
ZelphExists- "Chrissy B, So why don't you follow your own advice and
ignore it? I find it funny you took the time to respond. Young LBGT kids and
teenagers need role models as they are bullied."I think that is
Chris B's point. Don't inform everyone of your sexual
orientation. That goes for anyone of any age. They can't be bullied is no
one knows.........Simple. Problems solved.
@Chris B --"Straight people don't announce to the world
they are straight."Every time a guy talks about his girlfriend,
he's announcing to the world that he's straight.It
isn't *news* that he is straight, because heterosexuality is already widely
accepted. The same can not yet be said for homosexuality."Blacks don't announce to the world they are black." It's rather obvious, don't you think? Only the blind would need that
announcement.Homosexuality, in contrast, isn't visually
obvious. That's why homophobes -- and also people who are merely ignorant
-- can imagine that they don't know any gay people, or that gay people
aren't a part of everyday life in society. And that ignorance and
homophobia are the reasons why prominent gay role models -- like Collins -- are
important right now.Everyone needs to know that gays ARE a
significant and productive part of society. And gay kids need to know that they
CAN grow up to be accepted by others just as they are, and that they will be
able to live honestly and openly within society.Straight people
already know these things about themselves. They have never needed to hide.
@amazon,Straight people don't announce to the world they are
straight. They just live their lives.Blacks don't announce to the
world they are black. They just live their livesEngineers dont announce to
the world they are engineers. They just live their lives.Old people
don't announce to the world they are old. They just live their lives.I look forward to when gay people can just act normal and not insist on
telling us they are gay.I never told them.
@banderson --"I don't read in the media every day ad
infinitum about how descriminated a polygamist must feel"Gay
people in this country are roughly *8 times* more likely to be the victims of
violent crimes than straight people.Gay people in this country are
roughly *4 times* more likely to kill themselves than straight people -- largely
related to bullying and widespread homophobia.When you can say the
same things about polygamists, get back to me."Why does anyone
have to hear that someone's suicide should be set at the feet of those who
disagree with them?"Because homophobia KILLS.@worf
--"No matter how people spin it. Some acts cannot be
justified."You're absolutely right. Especially acts
motivated by hatred and fear.@Chris --"I have never
"come out" as a heterosexual."You come out as
heterosexual every time you talk about your girlfried or wife in public.Some day homosexuality will be as interesting as hairstyle. But as your
comments and the comments of others prove, that day hasn't come yet. This
country still needs role models, public examples of successful gay people
functioning in society, and I commend Collins for stepping into that role.
No matter how people spin it. Some acts cannot be justified.
To all those who seem so patronizing about 'coming out' and all the
'uniqueness' of your lives and how discriminated against you are,
etc., etc: I don't read in the media every day ad infinitum about how
descriminated a polygamist must feel, or an aborted child, or any other number
of things that are going on that are far worse than whether someone doesn't
feel comfortable with him/her self? Why does anyone have to hear that
someone's suicide should be set at the feet of those who disagree with
them? Where is the support for those who need to be told that
'society' doesn't have to agree with their lifestyle choices?
Isn't that what life is all about? If you want to go down a certain path,
then don't drag everyone else with you because you are uncertain about
whether you are on the right path. If there is any blame, it should be laid at
the feet of those who can't summon the courage to help someone realize that
it is their game, stand up and start playing!
Chris B apparently has lived a charmed life. No one has ever bullied him, no one
has ever discriminated against him for any reason. He is known completely and
loved despite who he is. He also seems to not have a heart big enough to show
empathy. Or, compassion. Or, the ability to step into someone else's shoes
and understand from where (s)he is coming. People come out as gay
not because they are trying to flaunt their sexuality, but because they want
people to understand them. If I have been held back, due to discrimination or
abuse, I need to be able to step forward and tell people what I have
experienced. Not only does that become cathartic for me, but it helps someone
out there who is listening who has gone through the same thing. It gives them
hope and strength: "If (s)he survived this, I can, too." Hopefully, individuals, such as Chris B, can open their hearts to the
struggles of others. And, also to their victories. Jason was not asking to be
patted on the head for doing this- he stood up for a life, his and others.
@ Chris B Your comments reflect the ignorance and bigotry that LGBT
face everyday. Your advice to just "ignore" Jason's courage and
honesty also allows people to ignore the countless suicides that take place due
to lack of acceptance. Too many wonderful people have died because they did not
believe that our community would accept their true selves. It is time, in fact
it is past time for us to extend our grace and love to all. I understand that
homosexuality presents a moral dilemma for many people of faith. However, I am
disgusted by the thinly veiled hate, bigotry and lack of tolerance of so many.
@ Chris B.You funny fella!You wrote: "No. Everyone should
ignore it." why don't you follow your own advice?If the
whole subject bothers you so much. You have an option...do NOT read the
article.Besides, LGBT are not asking for a pat on the back. What we
want is equality.... we wish that soon very soon SSM, LGBT life style is no
longer a subject of news. We hope that soon, is accepted and become a non
issue.You can help by joining us in our fight for the rights you
@ZelphExistsTo Chris' point, whether a gay basketball player
has a press conference to announce they are gay or simply starts dating another
man, he can still be a good role model for LGBT kids. The method of "coming
out" is irrelevant.
Zelph is right. Too many young kids are bullied and driven to suicide because of
it. As soon as society accepts LGBT then there won't be the need to be
"patted on the back".
Chrissy B, So why don't you follow your own advice and ignore it? I find it
funny you took the time to respond. Young LBGT kids and teenagers need role
models as they are bullied.
Karl Malone could play basketball. What qualifications does the media--it
isn't Karl's fault--think he has over a person walking along the
street on this issue?
No. Everyone should ignore it.The sooner we stop patting the gay
community on their backs any time they tie their shoes, the sooner they'll
stop demanding we pat them on their backs for tying their shoes.I
have never "come out" as a heterosexual. I just live my life.If Collins decided he wants to be gay, why not just start dating a man?I never held a press conference, never told my friends, told my
coworkers.If you want to be gay - just be gay. Stop looking for me
to pat you on the back for your decision to tell me. I never told you.