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Published: Tuesday, April 30 2013 12:45 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

No. Everyone should ignore it.

The sooner we stop patting the gay community on their backs any time they tie their shoes, the sooner they'll stop demanding we pat them on their backs for tying their shoes.

I have never "come out" as a heterosexual. I just live my life.

If Collins decided he wants to be gay, why not just start dating a man?

I never held a press conference, never told my friends, told my coworkers.

If you want to be gay - just be gay. Stop looking for me to pat you on the back for your decision to tell me. I never told you.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Karl Malone could play basketball. What qualifications does the media--it isn't Karl's fault--think he has over a person walking along the street on this issue?

ZelphExists
Salt Lake City, UT

Chrissy B, So why don't you follow your own advice and ignore it? I find it funny you took the time to respond. Young LBGT kids and teenagers need role models as they are bullied.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Zelph is right. Too many young kids are bullied and driven to suicide because of it. As soon as society accepts LGBT then there won't be the need to be "patted on the back".

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@ZelphExists

To Chris' point, whether a gay basketball player has a press conference to announce they are gay or simply starts dating another man, he can still be a good role model for LGBT kids. The method of "coming out" is irrelevant.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@ Chris B.

You funny fella!
You wrote: "No. Everyone should ignore it." why don't you follow your own advice?

If the whole subject bothers you so much. You have an option...do NOT read the article.

Besides, LGBT are not asking for a pat on the back. What we want is equality.... we wish that soon very soon SSM, LGBT life style is no longer a subject of news. We hope that soon, is accepted and become a non issue.

You can help by joining us in our fight for the rights you enjoy.

BrentK
salt lake salt lake, UT

@ Chris B

Your comments reflect the ignorance and bigotry that LGBT face everyday. Your advice to just "ignore" Jason's courage and honesty also allows people to ignore the countless suicides that take place due to lack of acceptance. Too many wonderful people have died because they did not believe that our community would accept their true selves. It is time, in fact it is past time for us to extend our grace and love to all. I understand that homosexuality presents a moral dilemma for many people of faith. However, I am disgusted by the thinly veiled hate, bigotry and lack of tolerance of so many.

Sentinel
Ogden, UT

Chris B apparently has lived a charmed life. No one has ever bullied him, no one has ever discriminated against him for any reason. He is known completely and loved despite who he is. He also seems to not have a heart big enough to show empathy. Or, compassion. Or, the ability to step into someone else's shoes and understand from where (s)he is coming.

People come out as gay not because they are trying to flaunt their sexuality, but because they want people to understand them. If I have been held back, due to discrimination or abuse, I need to be able to step forward and tell people what I have experienced. Not only does that become cathartic for me, but it helps someone out there who is listening who has gone through the same thing. It gives them hope and strength: "If (s)he survived this, I can, too."

Hopefully, individuals, such as Chris B, can open their hearts to the struggles of others. And, also to their victories. Jason was not asking to be patted on the head for doing this- he stood up for a life, his and others.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

To all those who seem so patronizing about 'coming out' and all the 'uniqueness' of your lives and how discriminated against you are, etc., etc: I don't read in the media every day ad infinitum about how descriminated a polygamist must feel, or an aborted child, or any other number of things that are going on that are far worse than whether someone doesn't feel comfortable with him/her self? Why does anyone have to hear that someone's suicide should be set at the feet of those who disagree with them? Where is the support for those who need to be told that 'society' doesn't have to agree with their lifestyle choices? Isn't that what life is all about? If you want to go down a certain path, then don't drag everyone else with you because you are uncertain about whether you are on the right path. If there is any blame, it should be laid at the feet of those who can't summon the courage to help someone realize that it is their game, stand up and start playing!

worf
Mcallen, TX

No matter how people spin it. Some acts cannot be justified.

amazondoc
USA, TN

@banderson --

"I don't read in the media every day ad infinitum about how descriminated a polygamist must feel"

Gay people in this country are roughly *8 times* more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than straight people.

Gay people in this country are roughly *4 times* more likely to kill themselves than straight people -- largely related to bullying and widespread homophobia.

When you can say the same things about polygamists, get back to me.

"Why does anyone have to hear that someone's suicide should be set at the feet of those who disagree with them?"

Because homophobia KILLS.

@worf --

"No matter how people spin it. Some acts cannot be justified."

You're absolutely right. Especially acts motivated by hatred and fear.

@Chris --

"I have never "come out" as a heterosexual."

You come out as heterosexual every time you talk about your girlfried or wife in public.

Some day homosexuality will be as interesting as hairstyle. But as your comments and the comments of others prove, that day hasn't come yet. This country still needs role models, public examples of successful gay people functioning in society, and I commend Collins for stepping into that role.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@amazon,

Straight people don't announce to the world they are straight. They just live their lives.
Blacks don't announce to the world they are black. They just live their lives
Engineers dont announce to the world they are engineers. They just live their lives.
Old people don't announce to the world they are old. They just live their lives.

I look forward to when gay people can just act normal and not insist on telling us they are gay.

I never told them.

amazondoc
USA, TN

@Chris B --

"Straight people don't announce to the world they are straight."

Every time a guy talks about his girlfriend, he's announcing to the world that he's straight.

It isn't *news* that he is straight, because heterosexuality is already widely accepted.

The same can not yet be said for homosexuality.

"Blacks don't announce to the world they are black."

It's rather obvious, don't you think? Only the blind would need that announcement.

Homosexuality, in contrast, isn't visually obvious. That's why homophobes -- and also people who are merely ignorant -- can imagine that they don't know any gay people, or that gay people aren't a part of everyday life in society. And that ignorance and homophobia are the reasons why prominent gay role models -- like Collins -- are important right now.

Everyone needs to know that gays ARE a significant and productive part of society. And gay kids need to know that they CAN grow up to be accepted by others just as they are, and that they will be able to live honestly and openly within society.

Straight people already know these things about themselves. They have never needed to hide.

Mayfair
City, Ut

ZelphExists- "Chrissy B, So why don't you follow your own advice and ignore it? I find it funny you took the time to respond. Young LBGT kids and teenagers need role models as they are bullied."

I think that is Chris B's point.

Don't inform everyone of your sexual orientation. That goes for anyone of any age. They can't be bullied is no one knows.........Simple. Problems solved.

amazondoc
USA, TN

@Mayfair --

"Don't inform everyone of your sexual orientation. That goes for anyone of any age. They can't be bullied is no one knows.........Simple. Problems solved."

Seriously?? Your solution is to tell gay people to go back in the closet and stay there??

Cmon, folks. Gay people have just as much right to live openly and honestly as the rest of the world. Telling them to shut up and stay in hiding is NOT the way to go. Heck, it isn't even Constitutional. Remember the Equal Protections clause?

Gay people have the right to legal protection, too. And yes, Mayfair, that means being able to live without having to hide for fear of bullying.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

The teen years are filled with turmoil and confusion. Sexuality is the main source of confusion. That is why you have schools called high schools and junior highs to allow for the emotional and psychological development of the young. There has never been a problem with this set of guidelines. Local school boards have set the standards. Unfortunately, there is "trouble in them thair hills". The U.S. Department of Education wants to break down local control even though the U.S. Constitution stipulates that education is a state function. Jason Collins is a political football being used by the media and the current administration to influence the views of the young.

4thekids
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B "I have never "come out" as a heterosexual. I just live my life."

I can't wait for the day when people can be themselves without fear of retribution. Some day it won't require big name people to say "Hey, I am not the 'norm' either and I am OK". I can't wait until gay can be considered the 'norm' along with hetrosexual. Kids and adults alike that are struggling with being themselves need role models to make it 'ok'. Why don't public figures that come out and say I am ADHD, or have dilexia, diabetis, a drug problem, etc. hassled. It is just another opportunity to say look I am like you and I am fine. As soon as gay or straight is not a defining characteristic of a person and they can just be who they are without hiding, then people need to stand up. I applaud Jason Collins and all the other celebrities for saying it is OK, we don't care. It helps those with biases be more accepting and those dealing with hiding who they are be able to move forward.

GoodGuyGary
Houston, TX

I can't believe I am saying it: first time ever, I have to agree with Christ B!

JRO35
Eagle Mountain, UT

I think the real issue here is bullying.

It is nobody's place to judge anybody. I don't understand homosexuality, and so it is not my place to judge it. I don't know all the reasons why people are the way they are. Just because somebody is different, doesn't give people the right to bully that person. You don't have to compromise your convictions to have compassion.

On a side note: Way too much publicity. Just go live your life.

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