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Published: Monday, April 29 2013 5:35 p.m. MDT

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Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

The best way is to build a center in Rexburg. Send the Elders to one and the Sisters to the other.

BYU-Virginia
Mesa, AZ

I like the idea of an English-only MTC near the Rexburg Temple. Keep the language training in Provo. Back in the 70s, Scandinavian languages were taught at the Ricks LTM, while Asian languages were taught at the CCH LTM.

Twin Sister
LINDON, UT

@Strider 303.

You may not be aware that when the MTC was first built many years ago, the Church made a promise to those living in the neighborhood adjacent to the MTC that they would not build any buildings higher than four stories. Therefore, the residents in this neighborhood had every right to remind the Church of that promise. When this promise was brought to the attention of the First Presidency, the plans to build the nine-story building ended.

The obstructed view that the nine-story building would have created was really beside the point. Property values in this neighborhood have always been the point and that is precisely why the promise about erecting buildings no higher than four stories was made in the first place.

Additionally, it is a courteous, "good neighbor" policy of the Church to take into consideration the impact that building projects might have on any surrounding properties in spite of zoning regulations or their legal right to build.

Don Bugg
Prince Frederick, MD

Brave Sir Robin called it "The stated mission of BYU" to "provide an LDS atmosphere specifically to out-of-state and international LDS students who may not have had an atmosphere like that where they grew up."

Really? Where has BYU or its sponsoring church EVER stated that as the mission of BYU?

downtown424
CHICAGO, IL

Serious question, why does this expansion have to be in Provo? We have MTC campuses all over the world, why can't the church build a second campus in another part of the state, the region, or the country? I can't imagine getting real estate in Idaho, Arizona, or even Virginia would be that hard, it creates another visible church property, and wouldn't be a burden on the local community. What am I missing? Why does it all have to be at one location?

dustman
Gallup, NM

I think anytime someone wants to build close to my house or obstruct my view, I should be able to voice my opinion. As an LDS church member, I'm glad I'd be able to let my church leaders know that I'm not okay with them building in front of my house. I don't live in Utah, but I applaud those that stood up for themselves. I never felt right about the prophet Brigham Young taking that one guy's house in Salt Lake away from him after he put all that work into it. I'm sure Brigham needed a house, but to just take this dude's house? It's a good house. Its still standing in SLC next to the Joseph Smith building. As church members we can choose to say no. God is pro-choice, its called agency.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

President Hinckley's polar star vision, in which you would see this visual link between the MTC and the temple. which really the 3 fold mission of the Church.

What a great idea from a person that lives in the area. Missionaries will have that experience to see the aligning of the three-fold mission in their stay at the MTC. Those that instruct and are leaders will have that more indelible in their minds, hearts, and soul. 900 East for missionaries should be doable as we still have people with the DNA of pioneers who can see something and as President Kimball said, "do it".

1. Proclaim the Gospel: MTC

2. Perfect the Saints : church attendance, temple attendance, church service, prayer, scripture study, family home evening, and other gospel principles and ordinances.

3. Redeem the Dead: Temple

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints works very hard in the myriads of things that the Church does on a daily basis around the world and especially in Utah.

The Presiding Bishopric have such a busy schedule in planning, coordinating, partnering, and doing so many tasks in those areas for meeting houses, temples, and other structures for the furthering work.

Tilka
PORTLAND, OR

Why not build an MTC at the International Center? It is close to the airport so the cost of transportation for the missionaries would be greatly reduced. It is far enough out to discourage missionaries from getting out and into trouble. There are plenty of LDS returned missionaries in Salt Lake and Davis counties that could serve there for language training, or they could dedicate that facility to those who will be serving in English speaking missions.

No temple for them to attend? How about building one within the MTC. It worked for the Hong Kong and NYC temples to be in multi use buidlings. Plus a temple out in the NW part of SL county would benefit Toole residents and those on the west side.

snowman
Provo, UT

dustman:: If you are talking about the Beehive House, you are wrong. The beehive House was Brigham Youngs home.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Even if it was reasonable to open more international MTCs, that would not be a total solution. A-there is a huge number of missionaries called to serve in the US. b-This includes many foriegn missionaries who come to the MTC in part to learn English. c-Being adjacent to BYU provides the MTC with a clear supply of teachers. Having a ready supply of trained teachers is an issue that needs to be surmounted in building international MTCs. I am really not sure where else the Church could build additional MTCs. Maybe in Germany, France and Italy, but it is not clear that such would really alievate much demand on the one in Utah. They might try to build MTCs elsewhere in the US, but the logistical difficulty of such would probably be even greater than expanding the existent one.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Having the MTC connected with BYU makes it possible to employ international students there in a way that would not be possible if they were not connected. Of course the connection does not demand a physical proximity. However the Church many years ago determined not to expand academic space at BYU, so there is really not a need to expand BYU onto the MTC property.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Having the MTC close to a temple is generally considered a good thing. There is no temple in Tooele so I doubt that would be considered. Also, creating a new MTC would require a new set of leadership, which expanding the current one would not. Another consideration is many current MTC teachers get there by bus, so it needs to be an easily accessible place.

The language issues at BYU-Idaho are not relevant since teachers draw on their experience as missionaries, not on college classes in the language. However there are strong logistical considerations in making new MTCs, and it is probably not worth doing so within the US.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

Well, the church is opening a fourth mission in Ghana this year. International student enrollment at BYU is kept down by many factors, including the difficulties the US puts in the way of international students it sees as at risk to not retrun at the end of their studies. The cost and logistical problems in returning home also make it a much more difficult experience than for those who come from even the most distant parts of the US.

elarue
NEW YORK, NY

I remember when I was in the MTC back in 1998 - I remember it being overcrowded then. And apparently, they had just completed an expansion then, too! If they need an expansion then, they certainly need it now with the influx of new missionaries with the lowered age requirements.

@Brave Sir Robin
A couple groups after mine, they implemented a "split" MTC period where missionaries would spend one month in Provo and one month in Sao Paulo. From what I heard, even in Sao Paulo, they went out of their way to ensure that the American missionaries had all their activities - classes, devotionals, temple sessions - in English. The missionaries were so disappointed that they didn't feel like it was worth it to be moved in the middle of their MTC time.

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