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Published: Monday, April 29 2013 9:35 a.m. MDT

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Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

What a great year for BYU sports, both rugby and volleyball in the hunt for national titles! Great sports to watch.

Obama10
SYRACUSE, UT

I would like to go watch the match. Time, place, and ticket info would be nice.

royalblue
Alpine, UT

"I would like to go watch the match. Time, place, and ticket info would be nice."

The BYU men's rugby team will be hosting the Varsity Cup Championship Match versus California on Sat., May 4, 1:00 p.m. at South Field. Tickets are $25 for prime reserved chairs, $22 for reserved chairs, $20 for reserved bleachers, and $15 for general admission.

See byutickets to order tickets.

TLH
South Jordan, UT

Championship game is this Saturday, May 4, BYU's South Field, game starts at 1 PM.

TruBlue
Salt Lake City, UT

Anyone know where this will be broadcast? ESPNU?

RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

Watched a fun match at Rio Tinto vs. Arkansas State for some Championship. Is this one different?

TLH
South Jordan, UT

BYU played Arkansas St. for the championship last year (and won). Cal didn't play in the tournament last year for some reason.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

My wife made me turn it off. They do it well however, that which I saw. Good Luck BYU Rugby.

Propblast1
Odessa, FL

This is about the Varsity Cup championship not the USA Rugby collegiate national championship. Unfortunately, BYU and Cal pulled out of the USA Rugby college competition and started an 8 team college rugby tournament called the Varsity Cup. The other teams involved are Notre Dame, Air Force, Dartmouth, Central Washington, UCLA, and Navy. BYU and Cal breezed through their 2 prior Varsity Cup games and will play each other to determine the Varsity Cup champion. It really has nothing to do with being the best team in American college rugby. The USA Rugby competition is in the semi-final stage now and the USA Rugby Collegiate National Champion will be crowned on May 18th in Greensboro, NC. The USA Rugby championship has been won by Cal many times in the past and several times by BYU. Unfortunately, we'll never know how Cal and BYU stack up to the other college teams this year. Many rugby fans, including me, hope that all 8 of the Varsity Cup teams will return to the USA Rugby competition next year.

AZguy
Phoenix, AZ

Last year Cal was competing in the 7's (Olympic) competitions as I understand, therefore they were not in the 15's competition. This year they are back.

Most of the top collegiate rugby schools dropped out of the DI-A college rugby class to the DI-AA class. This allowed them to join this Varsity Cup competition for their post-season tourney instead of the collegiate rugby championships.

The Varsity Cup allows the schools to keep more of the revenue of the tournament instead of giving it up to USA Rugby. My understanding is that even the most successful college teams like Cal, BYU, UCLA, and others were losing money, but their pleas to keep more of the gate receipts fell on USA Rugby's deaf ears.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

Propblast1

If USA Rugby had been run better, the two best teams in the country, Cal and BYU, would still be members. The fact that other teams like Notre Dame, Air Force, Dartmouth, Central Washington, UCLA, and Navy joined them in the Varsity Cup is proof of the problems not being addressed by USA Rugby and proof of where the best teams in college rugby now reside.

Regardless, the best team and true collegiate national champion will be determined in the Varsity Cup championship match on Saturday.

Propblast1
Odessa, FL

If the Varsity Cup teams are sharing revenue then they'll all owe someone a lot of money since attendance at the games has been light. If the Varsity Cup is all about revenue then they are trying to harvest unripe fruit. When college rugby is more uniformly varsity or varsity like then the quality of the games will be worth paying for. Clearly, the Varsity Cup is a failing enterprise. You can pay money to go watch Cal or BYU smash a weaker team or you can purchase the pay per view webcast. This Cal vs BYU game will be interesting but that game can be arranged without quitting the national competition or taking the other 6 teams out of national competition.

The winner of the Varsity Cup game will take home a trophy but St. Mary's, Cal Poly, Arkansas State, or Life will take home a national championship this year.

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

Having a national championship rugby tournament without Cal and BYU, would be like having a national championship football tournament without the SEC.

Propblast1
Odessa, FL

Well, Ufan, it's happening as we speak and it's working out great! St. Mary's is playing Cal Poly in one semifinal and Life University is playing Arkansas State in the other. You can watch the USA Rugby National Championship on ESPNU on May 18th. Of course, you can also buy the pay per view webcast of the Varsity Cup final, if you want to.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

Propblast1

"Of course, you can also buy the pay per view webcast of the Varsity Cup final, if you want to."

Or, I can watch the best two college rugby teams play for the national championship live and in person at South Field.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Propblast1

"...it's happening as we speak and it's working out great!"

As Ufan said, the USA Rugby tournament can't really be considered a national championship if the two best teams in collegiate rugby aren't participating.

Propblast1
Odessa, FL

I understand, you're upset. I would be too! Who wants to see their favorite college team waste a full season playing a social schedule and an 8 team tournament? Of course you're going to lash out at the teams that legitimately are competing for a national title that your team could be in the mix for. The Varsity Cup is a monumental waste of time for the 8 teams that joined it. I especially feel for the players who wasted a year of college eligibility on this farcical season. Particularly the seniors who will graduate after playing, at most, a 3 game regular season. Sure, the seniors can graduate on to a club team, but it's not the same. You are right to be angry. You should write to the schools and coaches and tell them how you feel.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

@Propblast1
It seems you have a dog in this race you aren't admitting to. So what is your beef with the top teams taking their ball and going to play some where else? Your team didn't get invited to play with the big boys? Or you know the USA Rugby title will be hollow and empty without Cal or the Cougars? Cal is the top dog and everyone knows it. That BYU and Cal play each other practically every year for the championship (6 consecutive plus two by BYU vs other schools after Cal withdrew) I would say the national title is where they are, not where the also rans are.

Propblast1
Odessa, FL

@SLCWatch

If you repeat a lie enough times it may be accepted as truth. The Varsity Cup is waste of time. None of the Varsity Cup teams are competing for a National Championship, they only have a shot at a trophy. Cal and BYU quit competing, that's true, but the competition goes on nonetheless. Hopefully, all the Varsity Cup teams will re-enter the competition in 2014 so another group of graduates won't have to look back on their final college season and remember it as a season of disappointment and excuses.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

Propblast1

Without Cal and BYU, the so-called USA Rugby "competition" is a farce.

The real competition for the collegiate rugby national championship will be held Saturday, August 4th at South Field between the two best teams in the country.

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