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Published: Wednesday, April 24 2013 8:14 p.m. MDT

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3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

The only thing the nation has become numb to is the lack of punishment for criminals. The public doesn't want their guns taken away, they want criminals punished by the laws that currently exist! We need crime control.

Alcohol kills more people than guns each year by far, yet we don't ban alcohol from responsible drinkers nor do we even threaten to water down their drinks. So why take that approach with guns when it's clear that only law abiding citizens will be hurt by current gun control thought.

Let's be real honest too, gun control folks will not be happy until all guns are restricted.

RichardB
Murray, UT

If Burbank wants to set public policy, then he should run for office.

CSPOA is a law enforcement organization that objected to the laws. Including the Utah Sheriffs organization. The laws were more than background checks, how many Americans were for limiting magazine capacity or another assault weapon ban? Why are background check polls the only one referred to.

klink
Provo, UT

Shameful! A police Chief should be the one person the public can rely on to be living in reality. A person who's goal it is to ensure that people feel safe in their homes and neighborhoods. I hope all who read this article realize his beliefs do NOT represent the majority of Law Enforcement. As a matter of fact, almost All Law Enforcement apposed those new gun control measures. The majority of All LEO's Believe in the Constitution, including the 2nd amendment!! And last, "ALL" LEO's know that guns are not the issue, and Know that trying to add new control measures will have ZERO effect on gun violence. A chief, of all people, knows this. So, his comments are both sad and confusing. (and very disappointing!)

Silly Rabbit
Small Town, USA, UT

well I guess its all where you do the polls....... if you went to Texas it would most likely be 90% saying they are in favor....... here in utah it would be a high %%% of people in favor for what has happened with the gun bill. I don't understand..... really I don't understand if the things we have in place were used the way they were supposed to then maybe we wouldnt have these gun issues.

Oh and by the way the deceased Boston suspect, whom was on sevearl watch lists from the Government had firearms "where did he get them?"

Just saying...... there are things in place that appear to not being used, lets use the things we have in place.....

I know someone is going to to slam this and ask "what things"

but maybe Im just some rube from a small town that doesnt get to see the things close up like the rest of society.....

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah Constitution, Article I, Section 6. [Right to bear arms.]
The individual right of the people to keep and bear arms for security and defense of self, family, others, property, or the state, as well as for other lawful purposes shall not be infringed; but nothing herein shall prevent the Legislature from defining the lawful use of arms.

Aren't the 2 senators to represent Utah?
It seems like they have.

The Judge
Kaysville, UT

Do people really think senators from Montana, North Dakota, Arkansas and Alaska are going to vote for gun control? Of course not. The senators from these states voted the way their constituents wanted them to vote.

patriot22
tremonton, UT

Burbank should resign.

For Freedom
Herrima, UT

I am happy that I do not live in SLC with the Police Chief not willing to support the constitution. Statistic after statistic has shown that a well-armed populace has fewer crimes. Crimes are committed by those who know that they are going to get away with the crime and if the public is not armed then what do the criminals have to fear. Just ask the man that was trying to break into his ex-girlfriend’s house and was later confronted with a samurai welding neighbor. He got in his car and fled the scene.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

If you want to talk about "the will of the people" - can we include Obamacare and illegal immigration?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The bill expanding background checks was only that. It did not include other measures. The NRA falsely said the bill would lead to a national registry.

From Politifact:

"So what did the Manchin-Toomey amendment say about a registry?

First, it made reference to federal law that already bans creation of a federal registry.

Since the mid 1980s, it’s been against federal law for information from background checks to be "recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established."

That’s why, if you’re cleared to purchase a gun, the FBI is required to destroy all identifying information about you before the next business day.

The Manchin-Toomey amendment doubled down on this ban, declaring: "Congress supports and reaffirms the existing prohibition on a national firearms registry."

It also declared that nothing in the legislation should be construed to "allow the establishment, directly or indirectly, of a federal firearms registry."

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

@ Truthseeker

And you are naïve if you think that it is happening (the FBI destroying records the next day, or at all for that matter).

How is it that you can run a background check on a gun to verify who the registered owner is, to determine if it is stolen? Police units do it all the time to find out who a gun is registered to?

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Perhaps Chief Burbank would like to know that 95% of people given speeding tickets are disappointed or angry at SLCPD.
Ergo, they should stop giving speeding tickets.
Add this fiasco to Burbanks stand on illegal aliens and his failure to move out the Occupiers from public parks and private property and you can quickly see that he should be fired.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

The incumbent chief of police did not rise through the ranks of SLPD to his office. If I recall correctly, he is a former police officer with the Los Angeles PD. To better understand him we need to consider he comes from a very politically correct background, where image is everything and reality is a minor irritation to the image to be projected. Secondly he owes his paycheck to the city administration, specifically Mayor Beck. So he spouts the party line. Salt Lake is a very liberal town, he is doing what he is paid to do.

He is more concerned with the "rights" of panhandlers and the fringes of society than the rather boring, dull middle class who work for a living and try to enjoy a city that is increasingly costing more to visit let alone live in. In my not so humble opinion.

worf
Mcallen, TX

No problem. There are no laws requiring citizens to buy guns. Just don't buy one.

Don't restrict law abiding people their right to have one.

Where's the weapons control for Egypt, and Mexican cartels?

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

@Strider303
Good post.
Perhaps that explains his frequent trips to DC to testify on behalf of the liberal agenda.
A police chief from a red state endorsing amnesty or gun control looks good on the surface, but underneath is a progressive city employee who works for a progressive mayor.
Not as impressive as it first appears.

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree with Worf-so many people buy guns and load up on ammunition because of the fear and propaganda created by the NRA and the gun manufacturers. The fact is if you fall to the unfounded fears of these people and buy a gun it is more likely to be used on you or a family member. Don't be fooled by the safety argument and hand over your hard earn money to these soul-less clowns. My family is safer because I excercised my constitional right not to be a gun owner.
Now for those idiots that have bought guns that are used in a crime, suicide or accidental shooting we need to lock them up. Their carelessness damanged society and they need to pay a strict price. Zero tolerance for criminals and careless owners will solve many of the tragedies.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Truthseeker,
Politifact? Left-leaning orgs are not a valid source

There is nothing to prevent the current proscription to the creation of a registry from being amended

lket
Bluffdale, UT

a highly consevative group in australia got a gun control law passed and limits on magazine capacity, with buy back programs and since this no mass shootings at all. the stil own guns just not military.

lket
Bluffdale, UT

he has a right to say what he feels just like all of you look it up freedom of speech.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Burbank is a total hypocrite on the issue of background checks (and some other laws where he chooses to ignore some he does not like).

If he really supports background checks as a crime fighting tool, let's see him put some of his cops on cases and get criminals convicted. Intsead of demanding more restrictions on law abiding citizens.

In 2012 there were 2081 cases where prohibited persons attempted to buy guns and were stopped by a Brady check. (Of course they just stole one or got a friend with a clean record to get one for them anyway...). Since 25% of all Utah gun sales are in Salt Lake, probably 500 of the illegal attempts fall under Burbank's jurisdiction as these are violations of Utah as well as federal law.

Nationally 78,211 denials took place in 2011,and ONLY 44 were prosecuted.

What is Burbank doing to enforce gun background checks in Salt Lake- obviously not a darn thing. Prove me wrong!

Nor is he helping to enforce immigration laws so we have a lot of avoidable violent crime from criminals who should not even be here.

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