There is enough spray paint in their parents garages that this won't make 1
dent in the graffiti problem. Take Traxx to Midvale 10 minutes away, buy paint
and come back. I dare say there might be more graffiti than normal due to a
backlash or "lets show them" mentality. Placing the burden on
business is not a good idea. It reminds of how TSA might handle a problem,
@mornixuur@airnautYou are right!We should punish
the bad guys.Jail time with forced labor, until they have enough
hours cleaning up enough vandalisnm to serve Justice.Same with guns,
misuse illegally, receive serious punishment.Perhaps corporal
punishment needs to brought back?But don't punish and regulate
the good guys.It;s really simple isn't it?
I think it is a great idea. It should be implemented statewide. What reason does
a youth need spraypaint anyways? If it is for legitimate use then a parent can
come with them to buy it. Most kids will probably realize it isn't worth
the trouble and give up. On the other hand, I bet many of the tagger are adults
anyways. The tagging in Salt Lake valley is so ugly, and I will report any thug
I see doing it.
I know of a group of neighbors including myself who are willing to volunteer to
remove graffiti within the city and do it under the supervision of a city
official. But now the lawyers got involved and had to weigh the risks of grown
adult men doing something productive versus something they understand better
such as passing an ordinance. This will have no effect on curbing this problem
but it may, in their own way of thinking, feel they did something productive.
Chances are good the teens live in the neighborhood unless they have access to a
car. Unless they wear gloves and totally cover up including shoes, it would not
be difficult to locate whoever is doing it from the paint spray. Of course it
would require cooperation from parents, unless they are also involved. Some
parents would call this entertainment.
Instead of taking away the paint, how about providing the teens a canvass to do
They'll make their own spray devices...
I am now embarrassed to live in West Jordan!We have elected
officials and public officials who believe that young people who can obtain
cigarettes, alcohol and illegal drugs are not resourceful enough to get paint
and markers.Or, worse, they believe that the electorate will believe
they have actually done something of value with this ordinance.
Ummm, Let me see if I get this straight....Banning spray paint
to innocent law abiding youths will somehow stop graffiti,when, Banning assault weapons to KNOWN criminals and KNOWN mentally unstable
won't stop massacres.I just DON'T get it?
Spray paint doesn't vandalize buildings. People vandalize buildings.Besides, criminals will still get spray paint elsewhere.
@I know it I live it I love itI don't think anyone would
disagree with you that the root cause here is degradation of society. The
problem is, what can we do about it? You can't force society to change,
and lawmakers can't legislate it either. So they do the next best thing:
Legislate the tools away from the perps because they CAN do that.So
while the best way to prevent something might not be to outlaw it, that is the
best thing that we have the means to do. When you find a way to make wholesale
changes to society in general, let us know.
How many teenagers do you know that walk around public property with a can of
spray point for a legitimate use? Regardless, there is a defense
for legit uses. If you can deter the casual taggers, you have save already
saved yourself a bunch of trouble, clean up costs, and the associated crime that
comes with graffiti.
There was a reason that the legislature didn't pass a bill trying to do
something similar. A person is innocent until proven guilty. 2012 SB 107 failed.
The materials have a perfectly reasonable use.
I wish vandalism never happened but this isn't the best way to prevent it.
If someone wants to shoot 20 people at a school, they will obtain firearms. If
they can't legally, they will obtain firearms.If a teenager
wants to spray graffiti, they will obtain spray paint. If they can't
legally buy it, they will steel it, take it from their parents, convince parents
to buy it for a "project" or "art class" or who knows what else.
If spray paint is unavailable, they will find alternative methods to cause
graffiti.The best way to prevent isn't to pass laws to outlaw
something. The only reason the "make it illegal" method is popular today
is because as a society our moral values are broken. We need to change as a
people. More laws don't change people, people do. We need to actively
serve each other in our communities.