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Political stakes of Gang of Eight's immigration battle are high but disputed

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  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 26, 2013 6:28 a.m.

    Here's the rub:
    In this country, the rule of law guarantees equal treatment to every individual, including more than one million immigrants to whom we grant permanent residence every year. That is why we oppose any form of amnesty for those who, by intentionally violating the law, disadvantage those who have obeyed it. Granting amnesty only rewards and encourages more law breaking.
    That statement is from the GOP platform of 2012.
    Rubio, McCain, Flake and Graham are working against the delegates of the GOP who approved the platform.
    They are out of line here, not the GOP members.

  • patriot vet Cedar City, UT
    April 25, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    It is essential that immigration reform be done asap. Our country has been built with the labor and talents of immigrants. Those that deny that are naive and narrow-viewed. Our military has been strengthened by non-citizen soldiers and support systems.

    We owe much to the millions of immigrants here now awaiting the path to citizenship. They have willingly labored at agricultural and construction jobs and been highly productive. All Americans are better off because of their contributions.

    If the voices of those against the proposed immigation reform had been around throughout America's history...Non-land-owning Americans, Blacks, Hispanics and Women would never have gained full citizenship. Indeed, the minority white male would rule over the rest with a stern hand.

    We're beyond that now. Every generation faces these same debates. We know what to do. We know what is right. And we must do it.

  • Superfluous Anaheim, CA
    April 25, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    Everything is about votes and recruitment, Latino support, and what is politically wise for ME, ME, ME !

    Gang of Eight?: Because these guys are no different than L.A. street gangs trying to increase their numbers and territory.

    What's best for our country plays a very tiny second fiddle. Can't even hear it.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 25, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    This was a big gamble for Marco Rubio.
    And at this point it is not looking good for him.

  • humblecitizen PHILADELPHIA, PA
    April 25, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    The real problem: Senators and Congressmen are so eager to create a new bill without ever fixing the previous existing problems.Why don't we look at 1996?

    It has been seventeen (17) YEARS, not less than 40 percent (say 5 million) of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS living in the United States have stayed longer than allowed by their visas.
    Since 1996, the entry system works well, but the EXIT SYSTEM is NON FUNCTIONAL.

    At home, I do not allow my son doing something else without him without him fixing whatever present mess he made. It is just as simple as that.

    WHY SHOULD WE LET CONGRESSMEN AND OR SENATORS CREATE A NEW BILL WHILE NOBODY HAS ANY CAPACITY OR SMART ENOUGH TO FIX THE EXISTING PROBLEM?

    and the world says UNITED STATES is a GREAT COUNTRY, with abundant of INTELLIGENT PEOPLE.

    in this relevance, would you say it is a true statement?
    or, are you kidding me?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    April 25, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Even though John McCain has a valued past, he is marginalizing that now with some of his antics. His state or citizens want action but I am not sure their Governor appreciate what may be happening with this process. There are a lot of good people that have cross our borders illegally but that entailed breaking our laws that are and have been on the books. Period. That became a definite crossing of the United States of America's border when their feet crossed the line. That was a line of demarcation and those people knew it. They may have been escaping a despot ruler but they then have to declare that to the border agents, at that time. They want to blend in. They take jobs that some in our country won't take or do because those citizens want more money or get enabled benefits that give them more money, not more pride.

    When I see the term Gang, even of 8 Senators, I wonder why they would use that term. Gang is not something that is positive no matter how you spell or mean it to be. Are they going to ramrod this bill as the healthcare bill?

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    April 24, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    If it is lead by a "gang" then you know it is bad, very very bad for everyone.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    April 24, 2013 6:01 p.m.

    The last few months we have been told that the Hispanic vote lost the Republicans the election by the media. Now someone points out how it will affect immigration, and people are scrambling.

    Highly entertaining flip flop by the pro-illegal people and the Democrats.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    April 24, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    California was a republican strong hold until the last imigration reform took place. Anything involving mccain I wolud be afraid to support.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    April 24, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    the immediate impact? We will have to pay for 11 million more welfare recipients and violent crime will go up as well. Sorry but facts are facts. Will our new Mexican citizens suddenly like conservatives? Not a chance unless conservatives suddenly turn into Santa Clause like their democrat brethren and provide plenty of free-bees. This is a disaster for America...just look at what the same type policy has done to poor bankrupt California.