Congrats to Ahmad on a great choice. Definitely a hard decision to make going so
far from home, but Utah will welcome you with open arms.For us Ute
fans, it´s great to see a 2-star recruit coming our way. We have had a
history of spotting 4-star talent in underrated players. We have also gone
overseas to find players to join you in this class. About 8 years ago we put
Andrew Bogut into the NBA as the number 1 overall pick. Some
naysayers don´t like the fact that even in the downturn and now the
recovery of the program, we have continued to find successes. They even
disparage your 2 star ranking, when they also recruited players that they say
"only poor programs want". (only 3 of BYU´s recruits are rated
higher). But those comments only make it sweeter when you go to their house and
win and when you are playing in the NBA and they are watching you from their
couch while waiting for their unemployment check to come through. (Who from BYU
is in the NBA? Jimmer and who else?)
Duckhunter,Re: "...and you frantically and emotionally tried to
deflect it to another subject."Funny that you of all people
would talk about deflecting to another subject. Look no further than your own
exchange with me earlier in this very thread.
Can't we all just try to be kinder and more gentle? This young man has the
right to follow his dreams just as you and I do. Let's give him a chance
to prove himself on the basketball court - and in the classroom. Or, is that
asking too much for some of us?
@goredThat wasn't even a very good attempt at spin or
deflection.You asked for credible proof that BYU had a top 20
recruting class. I slapped you silly with that proof and you "frantically
and emotionally" tried to deflect it to another subjct. Fail.LOL!
No, ducky, you didn't embarrass me. The only embarrassing thing is how a
fan of a team with no NCAA championships, no championship game appearances, no
Final Four appearances, and just 7 Sweet Sixteen appearances in its 100+ years
of competing can so freely dish out on a team with one NCAA championship, two
championship game appearances, four Final Four appearances, and 15 Sweet Sixteen
appearances. But getting back to the real issue, Fields was shown
interest from several teams from major conferences. One of these teams came
within 2 points of making it to the Sweet Sixteen this year. The team, Ole Miss,
won the SEC conference tournament. How can you honestly say that this team is
not currently a "top" team? (By the way, if a player returns the same
interest to the "interested" team, then he gets an offer from them.
That's how it works.) Your comments on this board only
questions your credibility as a sports fan.
@goredDid you really just ask me to publicly embarrass you?
I'll be happy to do it.Scout.com - BYU 17th ranked recruiting
class for 2013Rivals.com - BYU 22nd ranked recruiting class for 2013 (yes
only 22nd in rivals)ESPN.com - BYU 16th ranked recruiting class for
2013That's the 3 main recruiting sites and 2 of the 3 have them
with a top 20 class while the other has them just outside the top 20.And no "interest" does not "imply that an offer is at hand",
not by any means. utah "fans" have told us that over and over again.
"Interest" might mean they sent him a letter, it might mean they
actually talked to him, it might mean they sent him a text. In this case he had
been invited to, and taken, 1 trip. That is it 1 trip. In otherwords
"interest" means only that, "interest". I have enjoyed this,
let's do it again some time.LOL!
Duckhunter,Gotta love the "I do it because they do it"
logic. Quit posting now... your digging yourself a very deep hole.
@wookieWhy not show us that you actually have the true convictions
you claim to have and head on over to a BYU article and make the same comments
to naval vet, chris b, howard s, and any of the other couple of hundred of utah
"fans" who I can't even hope to match in "contention" and
acrimony?Your friend Duckhunter.
@duckhunter"Interest" implies that an offer is at hand. And
I've already proven to you that this young man whom you're trying to
disparage is obviously an outstanding player. Otherwise, he would not be
receiving interest/offers from programs from major conferences like USC, Ole
Miss, and Colorado as well as Utah. These are all programs that have all
recently been in the NCAA tournament. Ole Miss came within a basket of making
it to the Sweet Sixteen this year. Yet, because this young man has chosen Utah
over Ole Miss, you say that Ole Miss was a "poor program". Such
comments from you undermine your credibility.Also, in your post, you
refer to BYU's ("byu" as you would say) top 20 class. Who are
they? Cite your legitimate sources to back up your claims that theirs is a top
20 class. Please use credible sources to back up your posts. Otherwise, it is
all laughable bias on your part.
Gone Fishin,I couldn't agree more. Once Utah starts landing
big time recruits like Skyler Halford from SLCC then we can really celebrate.
Before we all get too excited let's remember that he plays for Massanutten
Military Academy, not a top ten program in the country. I'm sure he
tickled to play for Utah as noone else was offering.
Dear Duckhunter, why spew the contention again. Conference wasn't that
long ago for all of us to be a little better. You are back to reveling in your
posts that stir negative and contentious responses. Give it up...let it go, and
do whats right.Your Friend, Wookie
@54iqI just mowed my own lawn today, probably while you were at a
job. Ah the joys of independence and not having to answer to anyone else.
Something BYU, and myself, have in common.
Welcome Mr. Fields. Ducky will soon go a way for a few months since he has
lawns to mow.
Welcome home Ahmad! Glad to have you aboard!For all you Ute fans
--- Why do you take these trollers on head-to-head? Just ignore them! Their
little brother rants will die off if no one pays attention to them. There is no
rhyme or reason to their content, they are just making noise to try to annoy big
@motortrikeI just enjoy seeing the outrage utah "fans" like
yourself have when a BYU fan points out that utah recruits are anything less
than 5 stars while at the same time you have zero outrage when your fellow utah
"fans" disparage BYU recruits at every turn. But hey go ahead and
disparage your own past recruits if you want to, I won't, some of them were
pretty good.@gored"Interest" is not an offer,
utah "fans" like yourself love to point that out everytime it is
reported a BYU commit had "interest" from some other program. This kid
was not "offered" by a single quality program and even the ones that
showed "interest" are fairly average programs, at best, despite having a
good season occasionally. Spin it anyway you want to spin it but he is not any
sort of "top" recruit and no "top" programs wanted him.BYU on the otherhand just signed a top 20 recruting class and has a top 10
recruiting class in the works for next season. Just a slight disparity there.
A bit of a different perspective than some of the comments above: I'm
noting the efforts made by the U BB coaching staff to attract recruits they
believe will be precisely the right fit, & literally from all over the
country. Yeah!! While Utah is not in Final Four form at present, it bodes well
that the coaches are aware of the splay of players out there and are reaching
far & wide for the pieces they believe will be needed for success in the
PAC-12. That's good stuff!In fact, I've neither read nor
heard of any DISadvantage of being in the PAC-12, and I'm personally
enjoying the PAC-12 Network, seeing all kinds of collegiate sports that have not
previously been available; they seem to be doing a great job just having
televised their 500th live event, so the P-12 Network is definitely a marketing
& recuitment gain for the U.So - Welcome Aboard, Ahmad, looking
forward to seeing you do your thing on the court, & especially on PAC-12 HD
TV!! :) ("You're going to like your look, I guarantee it!!")GO UTES!!!!
More tough nosed athletes coming into the program. The program is certainly
headed in the right direction and has improved a lot each year over the past
three seasons. The crowds are getting larger and people are actually posting on
Utah basketball articles. I own many tix to the football games and had not come
to any basketball games in years. I attended a few games this year and enjoyed
myself. I will be back. Love the athletes coming in.
@Duckhunter"Let's not forget utah once had recruits like
vranes, chambers, mannion, van horn, johnson, and others that actually were
"top" recruits."______Actually, of the players you
mentioned, only Britton Johnson (assuming that was the Johnson you were talking
about) and Tom Chambers were any more widely recruited by big programs than what
Fields has been. And let's remember that guys like Andre
Miller, Keith Van Horn and Michael Doleac had very little interest from big name
programs. So you may want to rethink making negative comments just to make
negative comments - it's extremely amateur of you.
@duckhunterSince when did BCS schools such as USC, Colorado, and Ole
Miss suddenly become "poor programs"? You do realize that Ole Miss (27
wins) made it to the 3rd round of the NCAA tournament this year, don't you?
Explain how players going to such schools are "players that no one any good
wants."More sour grapes from the fanbase from Provo.
@wookieI don't disagree with you but that isn't the point.
utah "fans" are always telling us how great their recruiting is because
of the pac12, how "top" recruits are flocking to utah, etc but it is
simply not so and this is a good example. The kid appears to be ok but he
certainly isn't a top recruit and unlike utenationalum's assertion
that he is the product of "being able to recruit players that we
wouldn't have been able to in the past" I would say he is not the
quality of player utah was able to recruit in the past. Let's not forget
utah once had recruits like vranes, chambers, mannion, van horn, johnson, and
others that actually were "top" recruits. As for the kid
himself, congratulations to him, he got a scholarship at a quality academic
university, but as far as him being indicative of some vast leap forward in
utah's recruiting is concerned, well....no.
Welcome to Utah Ahmad!! It will be great watching you play, and be a part of
the rebuilding of the program. You will have to excuse some of the
other comments on this board. It's a bit of a local issue. You see, there
is a very nice - if a bit exclusionary - private, religious based institution
about 40 miles south of the U. Some of their "fans" have had a hard
time accepting the direction and growth of the University of Utah (Athletically
and otherwise). This typically comes out in nasty and derogatory comments about
our student athletes in boards such as this. Please ignore them - they are
harmless and rather humorous at times.
Seriously Duckhunter. Shouldn't you be happy for this young man and not try
to come and spoil his choice. Who cares what you think about the program, what
matters is that this young man is going to get a quality education playing a
sport he excels at. Those programs have up and down years like all programs do,
including your beloved Y this year. Come on my friend, let's be happy for
these kids.Go UTES!!
@utenationalumWell you might have a point other than this kid was
basically being recruited by nothing but average to poor programs. If
"It's great being able to recruit players that we wouldn't have
been able to in the past" means players that no one any good wants then I
really don't see what you are so giddy about.
"I’m excited to be part of it and I love the opportunity I’ll
have to play in a big-time conference like the Pac-12.”Doesn't get any clearer than that. It's great being able to recruit
players that we wouldn't have been able to in the past. Every
recruit always mentions how comfortable they felt with Coach K. He has been
such a great fit for this program and is taking us in the right direction.
Thanks Coach K and keep up the good work!!!