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Published: Tuesday, April 23 2013 6:38 a.m. MDT

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Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

The GOP at the national level has gone in too many directions at once. They have fronted moderate candidates who have been coached not to offend. By pulling punches on immigration, gays and abortion they have confused their base and failed to attract independents in any great numbers.
They have come across as the Democrat-Lite party.
Someone like Lee is willing to teach conservatism rather than soft-pedal the answers.
Candor from politicians is always appreciated. Look how far it carried Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich?
But people of strong convictions are easy targets, brought down by failed marriages and failed mortgages. We need good and honest men. (Where have I heard that before?)

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

Do you think people like Lee will ever get that it is not that the American people are not hearing and understanding what they "stand for" it's that the American people are tired of hearing the same bad ideas?

one old man
Ogden, UT

I hear the GOP loud and clear. And I'm totally disgusted.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...Republicans in Washington have been on defense for two years," Wright said. "Lee and other Republicans are learning that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar...".

Referring to potential voters as flies will appeal to voters in 2016?

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Why don't conservatives simply wait to be told what they stand for by their real bosses - big business? Keeping the money flowing at election time is priority ONE, and pretty much everyone knows it.

Monk
Pleasant Grove, UT

I would welcome that suggestion by Lee. When they are honest with what they really stand for and people understand and hear it, maybe Utah can wriggle free from the strangle hold Lee's party has on us.

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

Lee should know one thing, most conservations do not share his opinions and ideas. All Lee can do is say "NO!" He has no constructive ideas of his own. He does not represent the citizens of Utah except for a samll group of extremists. He can't manage his own finances yet he wants to speak on a National level about finances. He shouldn't be given the time of day.

watchman
Salt Lake City, UT

I think Lee has it pegged and I am with him. There has been far too much compromising of principles in the national GOP lately. There has got to be a definate difference in the parties.

van
Saratoga Springs, UT

Thanks to Senators like Lee, there will be no republican party. You see, he loves more being the right wing hero getting attention on Fox News more than doing the right thing for Utah. Utah voted out Mia Love and voted for a democrat in the most conservative district in Utah. I hope Lee will face the same fate. I had a wise man tell me 10 years ago that the republican party would self destroy itself over one word. "Immigration". Its time republicans tell these nuts its not there party anymore. Take it back and reject senators like Lee that keeps driving people out of the republican party for there freekish ideas.

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

You have to give Senator Lee credit for being able to see the future for him and the GOP. Picturing him and the party's 2016 Presidentail candidate will remind us of that final scene in Thelma and Louise.

jsf
Centerville, UT

Take note all the negative anti-Lee posters professing the errors of the Republican party, would never vote for any republican no matter how moderate or liberal he was. Like a city raised man telling the farmer over the fence the farmer's processes are all wrong as the farmer harvests his crop.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

The last thing this uber conservative state needs is more anti democratic politicians like Mike Lee. The truth is, like many Tea Party hacks, Lee believes that democracy is a left wing plot. As fellow traveler Pete Cannon has said "Our Founding Fathers did not like a democracy and we don’t like it either." This is the root of Lee's obstructionism. Lets do all we can to frustrate the democratic process.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Democrats and many Republicans just don't get it. It is not about 'no', it is about yes to freedom and liberty. I don't want government in my life except for what is granted by it in the constitution. What is so extreme about that? It is absurd to hear the accusations that fly over people that want to be left alone to raise their families in an atmosphere of liberty. People complain about big business and then run down to Walmart and buy the latest electronic gadget made in China. Get a clue! Quit acting like you are so helpless. If you want big business out of your life, quit spending money supporting it. Grow up and take responsibility for your life. Be honest: If you are for socialism and want to do away with the Constitution, then say it. Don't complain about Senator Lee standing up for the Constitution. Instead of just complaining about Senator Lee, just post that you support Socialism. We get it. No more need be said.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"...Lee's speech identifies a key problem facing the GOP, "being tagged as the party of 'No.'"

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The G-nO-P

With Senator "I'm not fiscally responsible myself" Mike Lee leading the obstructionism.

This guy is the poster boy of NO.

Ragnar Danneskjold
Bountiful, UT

I think the RNC has the opposite problem from what Lee is saying. It isn't that they aren't respected because they are the "no" party, but because they are have spent money like crazy and yet still claim to want small government. You can't rush to the defense of GW Bush for 8 years and his out of control spending and invasion of civil liberties, and then 6 months later rail on the Democrats for their spending. The 3 problems I see with the Republican party.

1. Their social policies are becoming less and less popular as the attitudes of younger generations shift.
2. They are no longer believable as the "small government party". Does anyone really believe that Republicans want to tighten the purse strings?
3. They are viewed as caring more about big business than the American people.

2 and 3 could take decades to recover from. And #1 gives them the image of being discriminatory. The party needs to change its images on finances, and soften its social stances, or it will slowly die.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Let's see, against health care, gun control, right to choose, religious freedom, gay rights....nope, it's not a false narrative.

jsf
Centerville, UT

A republican senator elected by a majority of voters is not democracy in action, in the eyes of a liberal.

LDS Liberal you asked me for a personal public apology last week re Boston, after I stated we should not be prejudging who did it. You wanted a public apology when you were proven right about it being a right wing nut job same as the Atlantic bombing. I was wondering were you posted your public apology?

Tators
Hyrum, UT

The anti-Lee commenters on this article seem to be like flies who have now become addicted to all the vinegar Obama has been force feeding them these past 4 years and so now are actually preferring it to honey. They can hardly wait to be the early ones to post negatively on anything considered politically conservative. And since Senator Lee represents conservative ideals so well, they immediately pounce like a swarm of jackals.

They criticize him personally instead of talking about specifics of his ideology. They criticize in general without offering any new or countering ideas. It amounts to nothing more than bland, outdated "progressive" criticism... another sad way of trying to institute more socialism into our society, sometimes without even realizing it.

I can't image that being a puppet for Obama could be very fulfilling. In fact, it couldn't be, given that such ideas are contrary to the true foundational ideas which actually made this country the envy of the world... but not so much lately. Liberalism seems to have a way of blinding people to those truths. Let them have their vinegar and complaining while others of us enjoy the honey of solid, proven governing principles.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Banderson. Show me the places in the constitution where it bans "socialism". Neither I or anyone I know that thinks with a progressive mind wants to "do away with the constitution".
That notion is nothing but Beck Fox News hyperbole.

I almost hate to tell you this, but we are already a socialist country. We have state run police departments, fire departments, social security, medicare, public libraries, public roads, public recreational areas, and many other "socialized" institutions like our Military forces. So, feel free to call me and others like me left wing pinko socialists if you will. But to maintain your capitalist purity, you must be prepared to not use any public services or programs, otherwise I will just have to label you a "socialist" as well.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Senator Lee
American citizens are well aware and rejected the "grand" ideas Republicans are promoting:

Lower taxes for the wealthy, higher taxes for everybody else.
More defense spending
Voucherizing Medicare
Voucherizing schools
Turning Social Security over to Wall Street
More armed people dispensing justice.
Tort reform, then the status quo for healthcare.
Privatizing federal lands
Oil production anywhere, no matter the environmental risks
No regulation--except women's healthcare choices and people's marriage choices.
"Papers please" for Latinos
Personhood for corporations

To name a few...

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