some still on fire underground (Coal not oil) And even Utah has underground
coal fires. Thousands of coal fires are reported to be burning in at
least 22 countries on every continent except Antarctica. In the U.S., more than
100 underground fires are burning in at least nine states, including Colorado,
Kentucky, Maryland, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Wyoming and Utah. There are
numerous causes for the coal fires that burn at or below Earth’s surface,
including lightning strikes, forest fires, spontaneous combustion, mining or
other accidents.Many people in this state shut off their thinking
when they discuss environment.
"He stood up to the abuses of President Cheney" ???
Interesting the allegation of illegal leases. I looked up the filed cases and
it hardly meets the definition of illegal. Facts, the lawsuit filed by parties
stated the RMPs for 80 of the 132 leases only allowed 30 days for public review.
The lawsuit requested a temporary restraining order to allow more time for
review. To determine if the RMPs were proper. The TRO was awarded and
subsequently Salazar rescinded 77 of the 80 questioned leases. This before any
determination of propriety of the leases was determined. Where does it say in
the court documents and not in propaganda statements that the leases were
illegal? It does not appear that illegal was ever established. The remaining
55 leases went through. Mind you the BLM originally proposed 244 leases and
prior to any legal action determined to withdraw 112 leases. Please help me
here. If there is something of legal standing about illegality and not just an
opinion please let me know, so I can read about it.
Civil disobedience is the right of everyone, but claiming that one's cause
is the only just position does not protect them from going to jail when they
break the law. Sanctimoniously claiming the moral high ground and stating that
anyone disagreeing with them "lacks reason and foresight", as some of
the comments do, is the excuse used by every radical group.
Many people in this state shut off their thinking once they hear the word
"environmental". To them it means someone wants to stop someone else
from "doing their job" by not permitting them to perform some work or
participate in commerce that has a detrimental effect on our natural
surroundings. These people lack foresight, and unfortunately, it is rare that
they will ever listen to reason. This line of reasoning holds commerce and
capitalism above all else. If someone can make money doing something (usually
made legal by others with the same mentality) then their right to do it is
sacrosanct. Anyone who interferes is anti-capitalism, anti-society,
anti-hardwork. The gas and oil industries don't care about our environment
here in Utah. They will exploit the ground for every bit of oil they can find,
and when it is gone, they'll move on. Just look at the ghost towns of
Pennsylvania (some still on fire underground) to see what the industry does and
what they leave behind.
The auction that Tim was arrested for was illegal. By Federal quidelines the
auction sale did not abide by the law. Later it was deemed void and all sales
were cancelled. So, what do the "Feds" do? To use an an
"example", arrest and send to jail Tim DeChristopher! Not the true
criminals that set the auction up knowingly as illegal.God Bless
America!As long as you spweak the TRUTH, no one will ever take you
seriously.Thank yo, Mr DeChristopher for your brave act and injustice.
Folks like you give this world a chance to be decent.
Some people have enough courage to stand up and be counted. Unlike many who
post here. Tim is, in fact, a hero. He stood up to the abuses of President
Cheney, his little buddy, and the oil companies they were aiding and abetting.
Kind of 60's anti-government vibe going on here. Will Joan Baez and Bob
Dylan be at the theater too?I'd like to suggest we light one up
for Tim and pass it around. Our newest 'folk' hero. Geesh.
This is a hero to the radical left. I laugh anytime I see his
picture or hear his name.No purpose in life other than to disrupt
the efforts of others. Wow! Enlightening. He needs a kick in the
seat of his pants. Get a job and let other people do theirs.
And the longest running joke in "enviromental" history continues.
This man served two years for disrupting an auction the government could not
legally hold (they had not gone through the proper procedures, as the
administration later acknowledged, and holding the auction was an abuse of
executive power). Meanwhile, someone who killed a man in Provo is serving about
seven months.I've seen all kinds of vindictive tripe spewed
forth on this forum against this man for being willing to stand up to abuse of
government power. But even his most arrogant opponents should be ready to admit
that sentences less than a tenth of what he served are handed out for offenses
more serious than his so-called "crime."
Tim, get a job.