RE: Utah'95"Wiscougarfan. I'm curious. Who are the two
or three players on BYU's football team that are better than Ziggy? Do you
think any of them will be top 10 NFL draft picks when it's their turn to
test the professional waters?"This season Kyle Van Noy, Cody
Hoffman, and possibly Brandon Ogletree were all better than Ziggy. No, I
don't think any of them will be top 10 picks like Ziggy, his potential and
upside is off the charts. Unfortunately Ogletree will probably not be drafted
although I believe he deserves a shot and will probably get one as a free agent.
Next year I think it's definitely possible that KVN and Hoffman both go in
the first round but it's too early to tell.
Utah95:I think what Wiscougarfan was trying to say is that players like
Van Noy, Hoffman, and Ogltree had a bigger impact on the team's performance
than Ziggy had, even though Ziggy's stock as an NFL prospect is much
higher.Back to the topic. It seems like Rose concentrates most of
his recruiting efforts to the Utah area. Other recruits from SLCC haven't
panned out. I agree that bigs are who we should be looking for right now.I'm still a believer in Carlino, if he can just learn to stifle
himself in games. Maybe a few sessions with a sports psychologist in the off
season might help.?....
Wiscougarfan,I'm curious. Who are the two or three players on
BYU's football team that are better than Ziggy? Do you think any of them
will be top 10 NFL draft picks when it's their turn to test the
professional waters?We'll see, won't we....
Thank you Mark321,I appreciate your comments. So we should have a
couple guys who can fight down low. I'm glad we do. I see many of the
NCAA tourney teams playing and am amazed by how their bigs fight down low.
Spreading out the defense with parameter players would help them, you're
right. I guess I wasn't thinking about the bigger picture there. Even so, I'm a bit concerned about next year, but then, I always
anxious about games because I want the cougars to do well every year. Win or
lose, I'll be watching them as often as ESPN and BYUtv allow!
@ brbri86BYU does need big guys which they have coming in with Eric
and Luke, but BYU also needs a 3rd scorer. Haws is consistent. Carlino is
inconsistent but when he's on he's on. This kid looks good and can
play the 2 or 3 opposite of whatever Haws plays. That should provide a lethal
backcourt which will spread out defenses so that the big guys down low can make
there moves. One thing I do like about Skyler besides the 46% shooting on the
court is 90% from free throw line, we can definitely use that and it's
better than Haws from the free throw line. Skyler will be good for us until
Emery comes back from mission. GO Cougars!!!!
UTcountyuteI agree with you, I see a final four with the talent that
the utes have assembled. The hill should be able to beat not just BYU but the
OKC Thunder. We're also so happy that you attend football games and are a
comfortable ute fan. That's really special. Please keep giving your
opinions on BYU sports, we all think it so intelligent. BYU fans are lucky to
have your masterful insights. Again, truly special.
"worfMcallen, TXutahcountyute:You'll be waiting a long time."Any longer than he waits
for the next article on BYU to post?
ucu". . . the Utes are set up perfectly to beat the Cougs in the HC in
Bball next year as well."reasonableUTE"Utah's
basketball program is on the rise, and BYU's will most certainly experience
a decline next year."How is this reasonable? Utah lost four of
it's five most productive players. Yes, last year was better than the year
before, but Utes have nobody to fill the missing stats of Washburn and Dubois.
Next year will be 11 - 12 wins for the Utes. That's reasonable.On the other hand, BYU started three Sophomores (truly a rebuilding year) and
are returning their most productive player. Sure Davies is a loss, but
Collinsworth will be much better than Zylstra; and Carlino, Haws, Austin, Sharp
will all be improved. Cougs will finish 1st or 2nd in WCC and easily beat the
ucu,I guess it is OK to dream big but there is not way that BYU will be
worse next year for for many years to come. They will be loaded with talent.
Utah on the other hand will continue to struggle in both football and
basketball. If the spring Utah FB game is any indication of what we will see
this fall the Utes are in BIG trouble. BYU will win easily in football this
year. They have all of the tools in place stomp the Utes big time.
utahcountyute:You'll be waiting a long time.
With all due respect, this looks like a photograph of a short, mid-30, average
Joe in a L.A. Fitness pick-up game. Really, this is the future of BYU
@ rockwelljust what do the mighty cougars have that the Utes aught
to be jealous of? BYU's basketball team will be worse next year than this
year. the football team will lose to the Utes again this year. I like BYU (I
live in provo and go to all the home football and basketball games), but I am a
very comfortable Utah fan. Utah's basketball program is on the rise, and
BYU's will most certainly experience a decline next year. BYU will bounce
back as they definitely have some good young players. If the Mika kid is
anything like matt Austin BYU is in trouble. They don't need another flop
happy softie on their squad. They need a real big man that doesn't shrink
from contact (IE Chris Miles).
ucu"The Utes will beat the Cougs in football for the 4th year in
a row and I think the Utes are set up perfectly to beat the Cougs in the HC in
Bball next year as well."Wishful thinking from the jealous kids
on the hill.
Don't worry Dave Rose will keep in touch with Bronco M. to bring back B.
Kafusi for the next three more years starting wcc season or at end of December.
Glad to have Skyler in our program, welcome aboard.
How exciting - another old white guy - he looks like he's 50!
WorfI know that byU strives to be the University of Utah, but there
can be only ONE and we ALL know that it sits on the HILL. BTW... The
Utes will beat the cougs in football for the 4th year in a row and I think the
Utes are set up perfectly to beat the cougs in the HC in Bball next year as
Probably a good addition. Carlino doesn't seem to be the answer.
I agree with Rose's decision to go after another guard versus height.He have Mika and Worthington joining Sharp, Austin. Harward and Ambro
fit into here also (although I'm not sure of their role). Next year we
pick up 7' Isaac Nielsen, followed by Hartsock Jr the following year.
Anyone else see Eric Mika play in 5A Tourney in Utah. He was a man among boys.
Utah State also signed a talented big who led his team to the 4a title. From the group of Mitka, Luke Washburn out of Wisconsin, and Nat Austin
who had his best games in the NIT, BYU needs a strong inside presence to emerge.
They also have one more spot they can fill. I am sure they are looking for a
strong 4 or 5 position player.Don't forget they also need
consistent scoring from the wings and guards. Only Haws and sometimes Carlino
delivered. The adding of Halford and the return of Kyle Collinsworth strengthen
the outside shooting.
Didn't this kid red shirt at Utah State after high school, his name is one
I seem to remember?
To: NorCalCougarFan&Alum, Elk Grove, - you are absolutely correct. As I have
looked at the recruiting class for Coach Rose, this is exactly what is missing
from his new players. The Cougars need to bring big athletic players to the
team. I don't see enough depth on this team either. While I do recognize
that each of these players is a good player, it seems that the recruiting trips
are too close to home to bring in a different type of player that you see on the
top NCAA teams this last season.
NorCal...Agreed. I'm waiting for a couple of big tall farm kids
from Iowa, Nebraska or Kansas that can run up and down the court. There's
got to be some kids out there to fill the order for big presence in the
middle.Davies just frustrated the heck out of me.
BYU basketball ranks second with victories in the passed eight years. Football in the top five with wins the passed eight years.I rest
my case! --BYU is the University of Utah. Period!
The Cougars not only need height, but height with muscle. One thing I observed
about the teams who made it to the Elite Eight and better of the NCAA tournament
was that they were extremely athletic, tall, and ripped. After seeing the
Cougars play in San Francisco, Santa Clara, and Moraga was that the BYU players
need to hit the weights harder during the off season. Davies, Sharp, and Austin
didn't have enough muscle for big men.
Why it's great to be a Cougarfan right now...1. Just scored
another great player to the best ever recruiting class in byu baskeball history,
where the top two basketball recruits just completed a high school national
championship and are among the top 50 recruits in the country. 2. The
football program recently inked another good 1-1-1 where the neutral game will
be played in an NFL stadium. 3. This season's second best basketball
player was the MVP of the national Portsmouth invitational tournament, boosting
his chances of getting drafted into the NBA. 4. The third or fourth best
football player on this season's team is being projected as a top 10 NFL
pick (most now have him in the top five). 5. Our volleyball team is
ranked #1 in the country going into postseason play. 6. Our rugby team
is the #1 seed at the Varsity Cup National Collegiate Rugby Championship (and is
not facing university imposed sanctions). Yes, it's a great
time to be a Cougar.
I thought BYU needed some height, not guards. I think Eric Mika is the only guy
who has height, and he's a freshman. Correct me if I'm wrong, does
BYU have some height next season?