Comments about ‘Oakley couple killed in murder-suicide had no history of domestic violence’

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Published: Tuesday, April 16 2013 4:16 p.m. MDT

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Jim
Mesa, Az

This is without a doubt very tragic. People often view DV as being or only being physical and or sexual abuse and forget that the most dangerous is emotional. It leaves no visible scars or marks and is much much more lasting. Without knowing the full circumstances, I would dare to say that emotional abuse was there, however, not recorded by the public. We need more education in the area of DV and how to stop it. My heart goes out to the families.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Pencils don't misspell words anymore then guns kill.

the old switcharoo
mesa, AZ

I gun in the house is not all that great of a thing is it.

The Dixie Kid
Saint George, UT

They said that there was no history of domestic abuse, but then the article jumps to the conclusion that there was? What did I miss?

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Divorce? They weren't even married, just two people sharing a house and bills with one expecting a little more than the other was willing to give.

Cohabitation is a fake love that is not built on trust, love, unity, or equality. They were using each other and that is not a foundation you can build on for a family or each other and there is no commitment or accountability to each other at all.

This is the inevitable outcome of cohabitation and it can't be called domestic violence because each has no commitment or obligation to the other. Nor do children out of wedlock bond and bind a couple with any lasting commitment. They can bond to children but not each other. A lifestyle without trust and commitment is not worth the risk.

Most likely the rift began with financial obligations that neither could justify as cause to remain together, and the root of 90% of all breakups. Unmarried people remain single for all their life in mind and commitment. If police do get involved with violence in cohabitation the law is clear, they can leave anytime and it becomes self induced pain and suffering or suicide.

Mugabe
ACWORTH, GA

I don't know what more the public can do to curtail Domestic Violence. What will likely happen is more government spending, is a feeble attempt to control People, than to stop DV.

Men and Women who indulge in DV know that it is wrong, but their own selfish desires want allow them to take steps to make the necessary changes to quit. Violence is part of our society and only the people who engage in it can stop it.

People in DV situations will not listen to reason, they believe that things will change, so they continue in the relationship until something tragic, like this, happens.

I don't beleive that someone, somewhere, didn't know about the problems in that relationship: a friend, family member, co-worker, or neighbor. Someone knew about the situation, if there was any. I am saddened over this, she is such a lovely lady.

Gail Fitches
Layton, UT

In most of the cases like this, usually the person is on antidepressants or antipsychotics. I am curious what prescription drugs he was taking. This is so very sad, and is happening more frequently.

fish8
Vernal, UT

I agree with The Dixie Kid. Why did the paper jump to DV as the issue. They admitted there was no evidence of DV in this relationship. I guess they could have also jumped on the anti gun issue or maybe even the marriage vs co habatation issue. If you aren't going to stick to the facts it really doesn't matter what you report.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

Dixie Kid and fish8,
It seems this article is trying to point out that because there was no history of domestic violence - history means that there would be documentation of, or it was known by law or others - then it could have been hidden or kept private. Nevertheless, just because there is no "history" or "evidence" does not mean it didn't exist. Try to follow the story line.

raybies
Layton, UT

I think the reason one assumes that there was abuse is because when you kill your spouse, you are abusing her (or him).

Honestly I find the article very unsatisfying, jumping to a soapbox about how discussing abuse might have saved them is kind of socially irresponsible. So would wearing a bulletproof vest when your husband has a gun and you decide to leave him, but you don't hear an outcry for that, do ya?

The fact remains that our socity has no structure whatsoever to handle a situation like this. If you suspected something like this might happen, what would you do as a neighbor or friend? Honestly what could you do?

American First
Merced, CA

Domestic Violence is obviously the media narrative on this one...even though it had nothing to do with any kind of history of violence, they'll twist it till it fits, it's the progressive way.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Murdering a house mate is DV. It infrequently happens in a good relationship unless there are unique circumstances such as a terminal illness. Neighbors seldom know everything that goes on behind closed doors, so making the association is not a very big leap.

DistantThunder
Vincentown, NJ

Domestic violence can include verbal abuse, and emotional abuse. Friends or family had to know why she was leaving.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Gail Fitches
Layton, UT

Agreed!

But BIG pharm does want anyone to know this dirty little secret combination. $$$

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