toosmartforyou--students receive a handbook the first day of classes, and
it's reviewed. By the time students are in high school, --they know what
proper behavior is, but some choose to be rebellious.For whatever my
opinion is worth,--school should be voluntary after a pre-determined age. Time,
and resources are wasted on those not wanting to be in school.
@jrgl Why do we criminalize everything?The prison system is becoming
more privatized, and the way that private prisons make money is by having the
cells full. There was a judge back east that was sentencing kids to a
privatized juvenile detention center for things that did not seem to merit the
punishment. Turns out the judge was getting kick-backs from the detention
center for every kid he sent there.Ever wonder why the recent
crack-down on illegal immigration? All those caught are in a privatized prison
for which tax payer dollars are paying to keep them. Why not just fly them back
to where they came from?The privatized prison corporations have
lobbyist in Washington influencing congress to help make laws that improve their
This article needs Utah statistics! Are more young people ending up in the
juvenile justice system after being arrested at school in our state? I
worked in the schools. I have seen young people in high school be arrested at
school and seen the perp walk as the officers haul them out. Parents are not
there, students don't know their rights and many of those arrested are
taken into custody allegedly doing something outside the schools hours. All of
this arresting is very disruptive to the schools. To the first poster, yes
students in Utah are in deep trouble for bringing Grandfather's pocket
knife to school!Are we satisfied with having the highest incarceration
rate in the world? Why do we criminalize everything?
With the large amount of money spent on education, we ain't got time for
misbehaving students.Either arrest them, or allow them the freedom
to drop out.
How about the students get a hand-out at the first of the year listing what is
acceptable behavior and what is not? Then tell them that if they don't
behave properly, you'll contact the parents. (Oh, that won't work
because many of them have only one parent that can't handle her children
because their father skipped out and she is trying to just feed the family at a
minimum wage job. It's a cultural thing that's acceptable to the
group having the behavioral problems, I think.)What's needed is
some decent parenting!! And by that I don't mean from a mother that got
pregnant as a teenager and has no husband. We are sowihg what we reap, folks,
big time. It's always been that way and it always will be that way. The
school simply cannot take the place of parents. It just doesn't work.
Students handcuffed, arrested, and parents fined. It's called public
disorderly conduct. The alternative are swats.This really helps
with school behavior, and soon the police help will be reduced.
Schools need to have the authority to correct bad behavior. When I was in grade
school I was spanked by the Principal if I misbehaved. If a Principal today
spanks a student they're looking at a lawsuit. The solution of this
problem begins in the home, where parents teach their children appropriate
behavior. And, parents allow schools to discipline their child if an infraction
of school or classroom rules is committed by the child. School infractions
should not result in a criminal record, unless the infraction is truly criminal.
A pop tart bitten into the shape of a gun, by a grade schooler, is not
This article states many natronal statistics. Is Utah anything like these
larger states mentioned?
Looks like the police are a little more 'unforgiving' than the
principal. I cannot believe that because we place more police presence in
school that were re saying that it has resulted in basically resulted in the
"criminalization of youth - particularly youth of color." Give me a
break.I'm sure these police are going into the schools looking
to "criminalize" these kids. The fact is schools have too long given
too long of a leash. This is, however, due to the fact that so much is required
of them they MUST educated them and this story proves what a joke it can be. I
mean one of the final paragraphs state: "The majority of student arrests are
for discretionary offenses such as disruption, disorderly conduct and minor
school fights."Discretionary? Really? So I can go to school
and "disrupt" the class, participate in "disorderly" conduct in
classes that a teacher has spent a whole lot of time preparing (Oh and by the
way will be judged whether they are any good or not based on the results of a
test the students take) and participate in a few "minor fights."And the police are unfairly targeting them. INCREDIBLE!!!!
Then limit what the police are there for. Everything goes to the principal
excepts those who bring weapons (I am NOT talking my grandfather's pocket
knife) to school.