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Published: Saturday, April 13 2013 5:50 p.m. MDT

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I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

I'm glad to see BYU expand their recruiting philosophies. For example they passed on Star because he was a JC transfer (that was smart wasn't it?). PS BYU Snow College, is just down the road about an hour and a half in Ephraim, it has one of the better JC football programs in the country. I know the kids aren't from California but they like to win which is probably more important.

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

BYU didn't pass on Star Lotulelei, BYU was very interested but Star didn't qualify academically. BYU requires higher academic standards than the minimum NCAA requirements.

Cougarista
Salt Lake City, UT

It's reassuring to know that his recruiting involves athletes who want a quality education. Kralon said it well. Some athletes who BYU didn't recruit or were unsuccessful at recruiting were academically unqualified. Auburn and the SEC in general are examples of having "scholar-athletes" with low achievement on the front and back end of college. The PAC-12 has also expressed an interest in broadening (lowering) their academic standards to allow more athletes to have a college experience. The tail is beginning to wag the dog.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

BYU better do something to jump start recruiting because the last three recruiting classes have been the lowest ranked BYU classes since 2002.

However, JC recruiting is not the answer.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"However, JC recruiting is not the answer."
Its not the answer, because its too late. Bill Snyder had great success with the strategy 20 years ago. Ever since, all the big schools have established inroads to junior college recruiting. Its like showing up for the gold rush 10 years too late. You might find a stray nugget, but everyone else has established claims.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Yes, Howie, we all know the importance of having quality of superior athletes for competition.

When are the Utes going to start getting enough quality players to break through the .500 ceiling of conference play and become insignificant bowl eligible again?

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

@Kralon: No they don't. They'll take players with the minimum NCAA qualifications.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

sammyg
Springville, UT

It's cute that Cougar Nation is more concerned with Utah's fortunes in the big leagues than they are about their own teams chances against the Utes.

I suppose that's because the C-Nation knows their Coug's stand no chance of victory over Utah, but at least the PAC 12 big boys can do what their own boys cannot.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

You Ute fans make me smile...

@Ernie T Bass... Why don't you tell us which FB Player for BYU skated in at the minimums academically and then we will gladly prove you wrong... You must not have been paying attention when the NCAA rated BYU in the top 10 Academically in Division 1...

Sooner Ute, You're surely not insulting our intelligence by claiming that any University has a monopoly on recruiting pipelines for over 20 years now that no other college can have access to... That's simply ridiculous... One only need look at BYU's JC recruits this season...

Oh, and Howard? We'll do just fine this year... Remind yourself to look at the score board at the end of the game on the evening of September 21 and then come back on here and tell us again about the weakness of our recruiting.

I know that it's tough to be a Ute fan right now in Football and especially in Basketball (1-11 against the Cougs over the last 7 years)... But the answer to your inferiority complex is not to attack the up and coming Cougs... It will just make you look all the more silly come January.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@Howie S - Why the obsession with recruiting class rankings? Last I checked, wins, end of the rankings, and bowl eligibility are what count. Want to compare BYU vs Utah on any of those metrics? It doesn't matter if you have a higher rated recruiting class if U can't get past .500 and become bowl eligible.

@SoonerUte - U missed the point of the article. Relationships, not tradition, determine how many nuggets you find in the JC ranks, and Tujague has them.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@poyman

"We'll do just fine this year..."

I'm guessing that on April 14th of 2010, 2011, and 2012 you also thought the Cougs would be just fine.

Am I right? Be honest...

If I'm right... your predictive skills need improvement.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Winning? Try 8 of the last 11.

Smack from Cougars about winning sounds a little silly until your boys can actually beat the mighty Utes.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"Sooner Ute, You're surely not insulting our intelligence by claiming that any University has a monopoly on recruiting pipelines "
Dick Harmon makes it sound like the junior college is some grand undiscovered resource of talent. Maybe its new to BYU, but not to the rest of the football world. JC standouts are snapped up fast these days.

"Relationships, not tradition, determine how many nuggets you find in the JC ranks"
Right. A kid will ignore an offer from USC, Oklahoma, Ohio State, LSU, Florida because he knows a coach at a mid-major.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@Howie S - I concede, U've had our number the past decade, but many of those wins are during the (I'm trying to forget) Crowton era. Three of the last four games have come down to the final play. Do I wish we had made the two field goals? Sure. But to claim dominance during the Bronco / Kyle era is certainly a stretch. There have been some great games, that I wish would continue.

In the end, it comes down to an entire season, not a single game. And to claim U had a more successful season last year hardly warrants the moniker "Mighty Utes". Mighty and sub .500 do not go together.

I do wish U well in the upcoming season, in every game but one.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

We already get the best high school recruits, now we'll get the best JC ones too.

Obama10
SYRACUSE, UT

I always laugh about "recruiting smack" from Utes and Cougars. We all know that they recruit from different "recruiting pools". Bronco and Kyle have both said so. Because of the honor code, BYU has a much smaller pool to chose from. This in turn limits the number of kids they can recruit, and frankly the number of kids that want to go to BYU for the "BYU Experience". So when I see a Ute talking smack about the recruiting class and number of "stars" it receives, I laugh. BYU will never have the recruiting class Alabama, Florida, Texas, or USC ever have because of the Honor Code. Frankly, it is amazing that BYU can continue winning at such a high rate with the restrictions that are put on Bronco. We saw how well the Crowton era did when we tried to recruit the same kids, the other Universities wanted. "Sex, drugs, and Rock 'n Roll" at other Universities, "Missions, Academics, and Service Opportunities" at BYU.

shorts
Payson, UT

RE:Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

I an I is right BYU messed up on Star. Star wanted to go to BYU and when he finished JC route BYU passes on him. Utah did not pass on him.

Bomar22
Roberts, ID

As far as recruiting class rankings goes, neither the "U" or BYU gets more out of less than Boise State. End of discussion.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT
@poyman

"We'll do just fine this year..."

I'm guessing that on April 14th of 2010, 2011, and 2012 you also thought the Cougs would be just fine.

Am I right? Be honest...

If I'm right... your predictive skills need improvement."

And tell me, Brother Howard, what did U predict on those days? U thought that Ur ship had come in. Little did you realize that it did, but U would be stuck to the bottom of it like barnacles.

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