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Published: Friday, April 12 2013 1:40 p.m. MDT

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Provo, UT

@Howard S.

Wow, I think U have 20 comments on a BYU article. Thank U for your support!

As for the recruiting discussion, I would like to point out a few inaccuracies of your 'claims'. First, BYU's recruiting classes haven't been "pathetic" with ESPN. By BYU's standards, they've been average, or slightly above average. According to Rivals (the Utes' favorite recruiting service), BYU has had a top 50 recruiting class 3 times since 2002 (2002, 2009, 2010). That means that out of the last 12 recruiting classes, 9 of them have been below 50 and 8 of them have been 60 or below. If you average out BYU's class ranking since 2002, it comes out to around 68.

That's who BYU is. They have a smaller recruiting pool to draw from because of the higher academic standards and the honor code that all students who attend BYU have to adhere to. And they do just fine with the kids they get.

Second, ESPN has helped BYU in recruiting. Fred Warner, a 3* LB, recently committed to BYU because of watching KVN on ESPN. Brayden Kearsley mentioned ESPN as a reason why he committed to the Cougs.

Provo, UT

@Howard S. continued

There have been several other players who cited ESPN, or watching BYU on ESPN, as at least part of the reason they committed to BYU (Trent Trammel, Jamaal Williams, Trajan Pili, etc(.

So it's obviously helped BYU in their recruiting.

Recruiting smack is weak smack. Recruiting is completely subjective, and varies from database to database. For example, BYU's "pathetic" recruiting classes over the last 3 years have resulted in a steady increase in BYU's final Sagarin rankings from 2010-2012. It's interesting to note that Utah has had three of their best recruiting classes over the last three years, and yet they have steadily declined in their overall record and their Sagarin rankings over the course of those three years.

But in conclusion, your statements that BYU's last three recruiting classes have been "the worst in a decade", or the "worst since 2002" are completely false. They are actually right in the middle, or slightly above average, of where they've been over the last decade.

So please stop trying to stir the pot, since U clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Bluffdale, UT


Exactly. Still can't figure out why the dnews wouldn't post my comment from last night that said as much.

Something else to consider is that BYU has such a small recruiting pool that it fluctuates from year to year in talent. These aren't the Crowton years where they didn't care if a kid could live by the honor code. That is a focal point in the recruiting process right up until signing and beyond.

We shouldn't worry about Howie. He not only can't get his facts straight, he loves to change his position midstream.

pocatello, ID

Sandy, UT

Utah fans continue to cluelessly believe that being invited to a "big boy" conference validates Utah's football program. Unfortunately for U, nothing could be further from the truth. There are lots of lousy and mediocre football programs in big boy conferences.

On the other hand, all of that "BYU glory" has given BYU a CONSENSUS National Championship, a Heisman Trophy winner, SIX National College Football Hall of Fame players, and FIFTEEN National Individual Award winners - accomplishments on a national level that are completely foreign to that jealous little program on the hill.


I can always count on wishful BYU fans to bring up useless accomplishments. Because no other media outlet even brings up this stuff on a daily basis.

Sandy, UT


Every time BYU has a National ESPN game, their camera's pan through the Legacy Hall of BYU.
Showing their Heisman, Outlands and Waterford Crystal Coaches Trophy.
They always mention Quarterback U's Pedigree. From Carter to Hall.

Indeed, a College Team's History and Legacy is defined by their cumulative accomplishments.
U fans denegrate BYU's Legacy and History because they have none of their own to speak of.
BYU has "Generational Legacy" and an actual Brand and Utah does not.

Herriman, UT

Unfortunately, the biggest questions regarding these games isn't where the game is played but what reffs will officiate. Even the Hack12 reffs knows how bad their officials are!


Who am I sir?

Cottonwood Heights, UT

This works out well for a couple of reasons. For one, SOS is going to play a larger role in the upcoming playoff therefore playing BYU (a probable 8-10 win team) is far better than a filler regardless of whether or not you "like" them.

BYU gets three games, one at home, one on the road, and one that really is neutral. The Cards stadium is not walking distance from the Arizona campus and there are a lot of BYU fans in the area. So, getting three games against a non-WAC opponent without two of them being true road games is good.

And I assure you the Cougar athletic director doesn't boast about anything related to scheduling Utah. There are midmajors in major conferences and no one boasts about scheduling them (WSU, Utah, Duke, Wake Forest, etc.).

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