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  • linlynel Salt Lake, UT
    April 18, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    Are you kidding me, have you people NO SHAME!!!! Leave television the old fashion way so the whole family can enjoy. There's no freedom anywhere in this country for decent family quality time!!!!

  • billster36 Nies, MI
    April 16, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    "Personally I find television very educational. Whenever someone turns on the set, I go in the other room and pick up a book"
    Groucho Marx

  • sandye4rent Tracyton, WA
    April 15, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    I do not want this garbage on my TV where unsuspecting children can be exposed to it while channel surfing. I hope these comments are being sent to the appropriate people so this can be stopped. Like all previous degradations of the media, once it is put into place it will never go away.
    Sandra Elijah

  • Entertained One Milpitas, CA
    April 14, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    If you are worried about even more relaxation of standards of television shows, maybe you should be entertaining your family with more appropriate shows. The shows you hope to continue to love will have to make the choice to include that kind of wording and will take into consideration what their viewers have continued to enjoy and do not want.

    Remember, there are such things as parental controls that can keep your family from seeing shows that will provide strong language and nudity.

    If you do not like where television is going, maybe you should find something else besides cable television and put that additional money towards something wholesome for your family.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    @Redshirt1701
    "They will choose to not show programming that has frontal nudity and profanity that previously has been prohibited."

    That's not an issue, the FCC is not changing their standard for deliberate usage of those things only accidental incidents. KSL wouldn't know what to ban because it'd be something like a curse word getting from a player or fan being heard on a sports microphone.

  • briebelle00 Dubai, 00
    April 12, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    Why don't all of you who are so ridiculously concerned about your children hearing a "naughty word" and being forever-corrupted spend a little more time WITH your children instead of leaving them with the TV as a make-shift babysitter while you get online and throw e-tantrums over said possibility of them hearing the naughty words? You decided to breed, now it's your job to PARENT.

  • Archie1954 Vancouver, BC
    April 12, 2013 9:06 p.m.

    No, no, no, no, no!

  • FT1/SS Virginia Beach, VA
    April 12, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    Hollywood and broadcast liberals continue there assault on the American Family. They won't stop until good family values are crushed.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 12, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Let's see...

    Strict Constitutionalist conservatives believe there should be NO restrictions whatsoever with weapons - even for children, criminals, and the mentally ill...

    yet,

    do a complete about face 180 when it comes to Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of Expression [in this case, TV].

    You can't cherry pick.
    You either are, or you are not.

    Stop being such hypocrites.

    BTW --
    I'd rather my children be exposed to women's frontal nudity on television,
    that the pointed end of an assulat rifle by a mentally insane nut-job at school or malls.

    But then, that's why conservaitves hate me so.
    [I have common sense]

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    One vote,

    I'm old fashioned & glad for it.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    I hope a lot of families will give input to the FCC to let the politicians in Washington know how people feel about this issue, and I hope a lot of families will let the networks know via the channels they watch how families feel about this. Networks go where the money (advertising) is, and families can affect the ratings of TV shows and thus affect the dollars given to the networks for advertising.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    Redshirt1701, we'll see. They might lose their network coverage if they choose to not show a lot of network programs. I don't know how much control the church has over NBC for channel 5 or PBS for channel 11. I don't know how far the church is willing to compromise to keep its network connections. Channel 7 (PBS) has a few raunchy programs that channel 11 (PBS) doesn't carry, so there is apparently some latitude for the individual stations to choose programs without losing their network connections. Network programming is important to the church, because it gives the church national exposure. I'm not sure NBC gives the church positive exposure, but PBS does. However, I think it is likely PBS will change if the FCC changes. So, we'll see what the church does for channel 5 and channel 11. I'm just grateful that the church has full control over BYUtv. BYUtv has the advantage that it is its own network and has complete control over things.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    April 12, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    To "Allen" KSL will do what it has done in the past. They will choose to not show programming that has frontal nudity and profanity that previously has been prohibited.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 12, 2013 6:34 a.m.

    samwise has a good point. Parents can do as much as they can to insure that only TV programs with "proper" content are viewed, but parents can't prevent their kids from being exposed and watching TV in the homes of their friends. It's critical that parents teach themselves and their kids to make their own decisions about their friends and what is "proper" TV content. TV producers will follow the bucks and produce shows that they believe will attract large audiences, and parents and families must take control of their lives and make their own decisions about TV.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 12, 2013 6:24 a.m.

    Interesting comments about the proposal the FCC is considering. I've never watched prime-time TV very much. I've just stopped cable TV, and I focus my TV-time on MeTV (4.2 in SLC), BYUtv (11.2 in SLC), and so far PBS (7.1 and 11.1 in SLC). 30.1 (Ogden and SLC) still has decent programs during the day. Regardless what the government decides to do, families still have primary responsibility to decide what will be watched in their home. Families need to select the programs they consider appropriate and not watch the rest. In the past, we've relied on government to make choices for us, but that may become an unacceptable path to follow.

    One thing that I think is interesting is that the LDS church owns KSL, and if NBC via KSL starts carrying programs using frontal nudity and the "F" word, it will be interesting to see what the church does. In fact, it will be interesting to see what all the SLC stations do.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    April 12, 2013 12:14 a.m.

    George Carlin will be doing flips in his grave. Already a few of his "7 words" are routinely mentioned on air. Won't be long now before all are common language. For tv at least.

    I am a moderate guy, but it would be nice if a few networks still had some decency and put out some family friendly programming. I understand the "if you don't like it, don't watch it" argument, but if nothing decent is made for tv., where will the choice come from?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 12, 2013 12:10 a.m.

    To sum it up:

    The FCC tried to enforce more strict standards and were sued, lost, and the Supreme Court ruled against them.

    They are now asking for public input.

    So, public, let them know.

    DN maybe you could try reporting on something without always including the hyperbolic right-winged fear mongerers?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 11, 2013 11:47 p.m.

    From the Reuters article cited:

    "Under a 2001 FCC policy that was amended in 2004, network and local radio and television channels can be fined up to $325,000 for a single fleeting expletive blurted out on a live show or for brief glimpses of nudity. Cable and satellite operators are not subject to such rules.

    The most publicized case in recent years was the so-called "wardrobe malfunction" that allowed part of Jackson's breast to be briefly exposed during a half-time show for the 2004 Super Bowl football championship that drew half a million complaints.
    CBS was fined $550,000 but the fine was thrown out by the Supreme Court in a separate judgment in late June 2012.

    The Supreme Court said that the FCC rules were vague and that it had not given fair notice of a tougher stance that resulted in three-high profile incidents that resulted in complaints and fines against U.S. networks."

  • OlderGreg USA, CA
    April 11, 2013 10:54 p.m.

    Sneak Attacks --- "people can band together and not watch these types of programs". Sounds like a good solution, except we *had* a safe time period when we didn't have to worry about it. We won't know "these-- programs" until it's too late.

    Consider a school crosswalk --- we'll let an occasional demolition derby and crazy driver through without ticketing --- oh sure!

  • jrgl CEDAR CITY, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:51 p.m.

    "murder and violence are rated PG, too bad for the children, they are what they see"
    so sings Joe Walsh.
    I too can't hardly watch the TV for the ever increasing use of offensive language referring to anatomy crudely on what used to be the family hours of prime time TV. Drama shows have turned into a killing spree of blood, guts & murder that you can't miss even if your just turning through the channels. Then there are the Viagra ads during football season which is hard to explain to the kiddies.
    And they want frontal nudity & the king of all swear words?
    Thank heavens for the BYU channels! As other posters have mentioned the shows are family friendly and yes we too like the motorcycle guy show.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    @ Noodlekaboodle
    Comparing this to the 2nd Amendment is totally ludicrous. You don't sell guns in the in the children's toy isle at Walmart, but you can buy them at the appropriate outlet. The open airways are much like the children's toy isle. Parents can't supervise what children view when it is so readily available, such as the video wall at your local furniture or electronics outlet. If you want your nudity, you can go watch at the appropriate outlet, cable or satellite where parental restrictions can be places on the set-top box. If you can't see the sanity, or practicality in it, then maybe we should be selling liquor and cigarets in the candy isle.

    And it's ironic that it is only "female" frontal nudity. That sounds a bit discriminatory. I hope the women polled for this decision are perfectly happy with this and don't find it to be exploiting their sex. It appears most here that are beating their chest about 1st Amendment rights to allow this are men. What a coincidence.

    Seems the solution is to ban all free off-air television and require only wired or encrypted connections.

  • Jory payson, utah
    April 11, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    Samwise

    Welcome to parenting. You wanted to do the crime, now do the time. Just because you can't watch your kids doesn't mean the government needs to step in and do it for you. It means try harder, instill principles in your kids and hope they live by them.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:49 p.m.

    This article failed to note that this is more focused on whether or not they will relax standards on accidental instances (like say those times when a sports microphone catches an athlete or fan yelling one of the banned words). It wouldn't actually give carte blanche to do whatever they want in this regard.

  • Moracle Blackshear, GA
    April 11, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    Simple solution: Cancel your TV Cable and Satellite service; hook your computer to your TV and watch your own selections online. Get news from the internet (there's much more truth there),
    or, just Vote with your Remote, and let the corrupt TV industry and the FCC know the power of the American people.

    If there are few viewers, there will be fewer sponsors and few dollars coming in, then, this instrument of corruption will lose the power of influence and collapse.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    April 11, 2013 9:33 p.m.

    FOX is the network in question that initiated this possibility. They are fighting a fine by the FCC and triggering the pondering of relaxing the standards. I hear none of my conservatives friends mentioning the fact that it is FOX that is fighting their fines.

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:19 p.m.

    And the war on morality continues...

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    The first few days after the FCC's comment period opened up, only 20 or 30 comments came in per day. By the 7th day there were thousands, tens of thousands, overwhelmingly against the relaxation of standards. Keep the comments coming. Look up FCC Docket No. 13-86.

    One reason they gave is the hundreds of thousands of so-called "less-egregious" cases they have decided to just drop because of their enormous backlog. Imagine this scenario, a call from our Coast Guard to President Obama, "Mr. President, hundreds of thousands of enemy soldiers have just overrun our defenses and are approaching your home. Let's just ignore the ones with rifles and focus instead on tanks and artillery."

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    April 11, 2013 8:58 p.m.

    re:lds liberal

    We want less government. The FCC has allowed broadcast companies to hide behind their skirts for years, blocking massive protest against what is already on tv. If the gov. stepped out of the way, the people would be heard and this wouldn't be an issue.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    April 11, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    The broadcast companies have become desperate like a bad comedian who turns to trashy jokes for humor.

    This shouldn't be considered an adult issue, it's a child protection issue and it angers me that I have to fight so hard for my children to experience a world of decency and respect for all. What broadcast companies are begging for is debasing and dehumanizing.

    Great societies protect children, the future.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 8:26 p.m.

    Freedom is freedom.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 8:29 p.m.

    David, your old fashioned.

  • Californian#1@94131 San Francisco, CA
    April 11, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    Standards?

    TV has standards? Who knew?

  • cstott Lehi, UT
    April 11, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    Never fails... we have a discussion about the lines of decency being moved in the wrong direction and someone pulls out freedom of speech. I think we need a reminder about the intentions of why that exists.
    And yes.. This is why capitalism works. Just like using our dollars to vote on whether a product or company is successful we can do the same thing with our viewership. We don't need government to spend our money to ensure every institution in our society survives.

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    April 11, 2013 6:49 p.m.

    Many many good comments. Stop watching tv, and write to the FCC and tell them what a huge mistake they are making. We need to make our voices heard.

  • kje Payson, UT
    April 11, 2013 6:41 p.m.

    We have to much on TV as it is. Me as a person will turn to another Chanel to watch something that is more to my liking. It will not be one that promotes more skin. It will come to a point that I will no turn on the TV unless I know what Is being televised is of a higher standard than the ones you are going show. Those ads that are paying your wages will not be seen by me or my family. That way you might learn what we would really like an don't show things that we do not want coming into our an my home.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    April 11, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    I wonder if it would be possible to get a list of the sponsors of the most filthy and offensive shows, publish the list and let people decide if they want to support those sponsors with their business. Just a suggestion.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 11, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    Anybody concerned about this issue should google: snopes fcc and read about this issue.

    It is true that the FCC is re-considering its standards as a response to fines issued against Fox for violations. Fox brought suit against the FCC challenging the fines.

    The FCC is seeking public input on this issue.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    Do some of you live in this fantasy world where you, as a parent, can say "My children shall not watch this", and it is suddenly true? Network television is very accessible. I could do all I can to stop my children from watching shows with the f-bomb or frontal nudity, but they could happen to see it at their friends house. Also, Guess what? kids like watching TV! And sometimes parents aren't home to monitor what they watch. I am fine with certain cable or pay per view channels having this obscene content, as well as movies. If an adult wants to pay to see it, then see it. But I do not want my children exposed to it.

  • ldsironrodder New Haven, OH
    April 11, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    The so-called isolated incidents are mostly intentional because those who commit the acts are never held accountable. It is just like the "apology" farse we are witnessing. Those who commit the acts know they can apologize for saying or doing extremely personal things and they are immediately given a pass. It is a joke to them and a joke on those whom they despise fo their so-called intolerance. Personally, I think it is time to pull the plug.

  • PG33 Layton, Utah
    April 11, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    So wait, the FCC hasn't relaxed their standards already??? Now THAT's news to me!!!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    April 11, 2013 4:54 p.m.

    Yes! Also the new sitcom produced by BYUtv on Sundays at 6:00 PM. You can catch up on the first 2 series this week, as they are being played several times during the week. The title of the sitcom is Granite Flats, which is a ficticious town in Colorado in the 1960's. It is actually being filmed in Magna, Utah, and has some fairly well known adult and children actors and actresses. It is a G rated show and has plenty of action and a good plot. A fun, exciting and wholesome show.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 11, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    SLars
    Provo, UT
    I don't want my grandchildren hearing or seeing this.

    If this is the liberal idea of raising children, start running around your house nude and using foul language. Don't bring it to my house.

    3:11 p.m. April 11, 2013

    =============

    Liberals?

    This is your Free Market Capitalists who are driving this one.
    Anything for a buck!
    Sex sells,
    Sales mean $

    BTW - Liberals LIKE Government controls and restrictions, even if it business friendly - remember?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 11, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    To Brave Sir Robin and LDS Liberal:

    If you two still don't know the difference, then there's almost no chance of you understanding the explanation. Is it really true that ignorance is bliss? Just wondering.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    April 11, 2013 4:26 p.m.

    Isn't it interesting that this announcement was made on April 1?

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 11, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    This makes me more grateful for BYU tv. Has anyone watched American Ride? I love that program. There's lots more great programs on BYU tv.

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 11, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    We don't watch any network television any longer. Mostly we select our programs on Netflix or Amazon prime. TV today is awful.

    Call me old fashioned but I miss the days of Bill Cosby, the Brady Bunch, and the Andy Griffin Show.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    April 11, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    I don't want my grandchildren hearing or seeing this.

    If this is the liberal idea of raising children, start running around your house nude and using foul language. Don't bring it to my house.

  • Littlebit Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 3:01 p.m.

    Unbelieveable that relaxing standards is even being considered. Each step leads to another, allowing even more offensive language to be used & more implicit sex scenes & violence. Where & when does it stop? Before long, it will be acceptable to show full nudity and complete sex scenes. If frontal nudity is acceptable, why not everything else? I suppose this shouldn't surprise me, considering the downward spiral of decency and morality throughout the world, but there seems to be no limits anymore on anything.

  • jpjazz Sandy, UT
    April 11, 2013 2:58 p.m.

    Another reason to cut the cable and selectively stream or use DVD programming content. We have have been off cable and broadcast TV for 10 months, never been happier.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    April 11, 2013 2:57 p.m.

    We all need to simply turn off the television. We all could write to TV producers and networks to inform them that we are indeed turning off their smut.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 11, 2013 2:43 p.m.

    Curious --

    Do conservatives want MORE Government, or LESS Government?

    Who's to know?

    Me - I hate smut on TV.
    I hate Companies making $ selling smut.
    I have no problem with the Government stopping it.

    And for that reason alone, I am hated in Utah.

  • Lightberry Springville, UT
    April 11, 2013 2:35 p.m.

    So glad you are warning people about this! They need to know what to do next. One million mom has steps to take to contact the FCC here: http://bit.ly/12NqQPP Thank you.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    April 11, 2013 2:33 p.m.

    Liberal Ted: Who is raising your children, you or society? If you don't want your childen to watch it (or yourself for that matter) then don't let them watch it. This is a great time for power of the people, in that the people can band together and not watch these types of programs, adults included. That's the easiest and most effective way to send a message.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 11, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    So much for conservatives not wanting government intrusion. So when is it OK for this to be a nanny state and when is it not?

  • Noodlekaboodle Poplar Grove, UT
    April 11, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    So why is it that guns and the second amendment must be protected at any cost. But freedom of speech is some sort of danger. It's in the bill of rights just like the 2nd amendment, in fact, it's even higher on the list. The language in the bill of rights doesn't say freedom of speech that doesn't offend you, it's freedom of speech. Period.

  • Ron Burgundy Ogden, UT
    April 11, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    What is with all of the commies that want to control capitalism?

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    April 11, 2013 11:49 a.m.

    Lets see, we just had an article recently that described how fewer people are watching broadcast TV. Now, in an effort to get people watching TV, the FCC is going to relax standards more in an effort to try and get more people watching even more garbage.

    I don't think that the FCC realizes that this will ultimately drive views away from TV.

  • Pete in Texas Copperas Cove, TX
    April 11, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Chrissie..... nice. Rather than trying to raise society up with higher standards and ideals, you'd prefer to let it go down the crapper out of fear of offending anybody by saying that something is harmful to them. Way to be "your brothers keeper". Sheesh....

    As for the rest of civilized society, it's painfully obvious that profanity and pornography destroy individuals. I'd gladly bet the new Harley Davidson I just bought that if you went into the prisons and asked them how many viewed pornography and vulgarity on a regular basis BEFORE they were incarcerated, that percentage would be in the 90's. Anyone think differently? So with that being the case, can you honestly discredit the effect these two habits more than likely had upon these individuals and the roads that got them put into prison? Want to make a bet how many of them regularly attended church before becoming incarcerated? Anyone honestly think that both of those statistics are coincidental?

    Just some points to ponder.....

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    @ Chris B

    Like it? Then pay for the channel and go down that lonely road to nowhere on your own. We don't need it. We don't need to expose children to this. Let them be kids, before hollywood and elites take that innoncence away.

    Yet, society freaks out if a kid has soda, but, will feed them pizza and french fries as vegetables. Society freaks out about a school shooting. But, could care less what their kids view and listen to and what is influencing them.

    The question needs to be asked. What is the most beneficial to our children and society as a whole? I strongly encourage to keep the restrictions on the tv. Maybe it will help Chris B if we called this a loaded gun.

  • Elmer Pleasant Grove, UT
    April 11, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Just more evidence of how we are in such a moral Decline

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 11, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    To relax standards that are already too liberal for family viewing is insane. I believe that to most of America (or at least those with children), the current standards need to be tightened for prime-time broadcast tv, rather than loosened!

    There are already way too many shows currently on tv that many of us don't feel comfortable allowing children to see. Why would our society want to further desensitize people (and especially kids) into thinking it's acceptable to go around using the F word in their conversations. Personally, I still hate hearing that word, and others like it. It truly indicates a lack of civility in our society if and when we do start further accepting such crass things.

    Free speech isn't the issue. Having an acceptable standard of societal decency should be. When our speech starts denigrating, it becomes a precursor to a downward spiral in standards... one that our parents and grandparents would be ashamed of. It truly isn't hip and modern (or even progressive) to be more degenerate. It's just dumb. Studies have shown a conclusive correlation between the coarseness of person's language and their level of education.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 11, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    ...and the vast wasteland continues its descent.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    dont like it? dont watch. and dont let your kids watch