dont like it? dont watch. and dont let your kids watch
...and the vast wasteland continues its descent.
To relax standards that are already too liberal for family viewing is insane. I
believe that to most of America (or at least those with children), the current
standards need to be tightened for prime-time broadcast tv, rather than
loosened! There are already way too many shows currently on tv that
many of us don't feel comfortable allowing children to see. Why would our
society want to further desensitize people (and especially kids) into thinking
it's acceptable to go around using the F word in their conversations.
Personally, I still hate hearing that word, and others like it. It truly
indicates a lack of civility in our society if and when we do start further
accepting such crass things.Free speech isn't the issue. Having
an acceptable standard of societal decency should be. When our speech starts
denigrating, it becomes a precursor to a downward spiral in standards... one
that our parents and grandparents would be ashamed of. It truly isn't hip
and modern (or even progressive) to be more degenerate. It's just dumb.
Studies have shown a conclusive correlation between the coarseness of
person's language and their level of education.
Just more evidence of how we are in such a moral Decline
@ Chris BLike it? Then pay for the channel and go down that lonely
road to nowhere on your own. We don't need it. We don't need to
expose children to this. Let them be kids, before hollywood and elites take that
innoncence away.Yet, society freaks out if a kid has soda, but, will
feed them pizza and french fries as vegetables. Society freaks out about a
school shooting. But, could care less what their kids view and listen to and
what is influencing them.The question needs to be asked. What is the
most beneficial to our children and society as a whole? I strongly encourage to
keep the restrictions on the tv. Maybe it will help Chris B if we called this a
Chrissie..... nice. Rather than trying to raise society up with higher standards
and ideals, you'd prefer to let it go down the crapper out of fear of
offending anybody by saying that something is harmful to them. Way to be
"your brothers keeper". Sheesh....As for the rest of
civilized society, it's painfully obvious that profanity and pornography
destroy individuals. I'd gladly bet the new Harley Davidson I just bought
that if you went into the prisons and asked them how many viewed pornography and
vulgarity on a regular basis BEFORE they were incarcerated, that percentage
would be in the 90's. Anyone think differently? So with that being the
case, can you honestly discredit the effect these two habits more than likely
had upon these individuals and the roads that got them put into prison? Want to
make a bet how many of them regularly attended church before becoming
incarcerated? Anyone honestly think that both of those statistics are
coincidental? Just some points to ponder.....
Lets see, we just had an article recently that described how fewer people are
watching broadcast TV. Now, in an effort to get people watching TV, the FCC is
going to relax standards more in an effort to try and get more people watching
even more garbage.I don't think that the FCC realizes that this
will ultimately drive views away from TV.
What is with all of the commies that want to control capitalism?
So why is it that guns and the second amendment must be protected at any cost.
But freedom of speech is some sort of danger. It's in the bill of rights
just like the 2nd amendment, in fact, it's even higher on the list. The
language in the bill of rights doesn't say freedom of speech that
doesn't offend you, it's freedom of speech. Period.
So much for conservatives not wanting government intrusion. So when is it OK
for this to be a nanny state and when is it not?
Liberal Ted: Who is raising your children, you or society? If you don't
want your childen to watch it (or yourself for that matter) then don't let
them watch it. This is a great time for power of the people, in that the people
can band together and not watch these types of programs, adults included.
That's the easiest and most effective way to send a message.
So glad you are warning people about this! They need to know what to do next.
One million mom has steps to take to contact the FCC here: http://bit.ly/12NqQPP
Curious -- Do conservatives want MORE Government, or LESS
Government?Who's to know?Me - I hate smut on TV.I hate Companies making $ selling smut.I have no problem with the
Government stopping it.And for that reason alone, I am hated in
We all need to simply turn off the television. We all could write to TV
producers and networks to inform them that we are indeed turning off their
Another reason to cut the cable and selectively stream or use DVD programming
content. We have have been off cable and broadcast TV for 10 months, never been
Unbelieveable that relaxing standards is even being considered. Each step leads
to another, allowing even more offensive language to be used & more implicit
sex scenes & violence. Where & when does it stop? Before long, it will
be acceptable to show full nudity and complete sex scenes. If frontal nudity is
acceptable, why not everything else? I suppose this shouldn't surprise me,
considering the downward spiral of decency and morality throughout the world,
but there seems to be no limits anymore on anything.
I don't want my grandchildren hearing or seeing this. If this
is the liberal idea of raising children, start running around your house nude
and using foul language. Don't bring it to my house.
We don't watch any network television any longer. Mostly we select our
programs on Netflix or Amazon prime. TV today is awful. Call me
old fashioned but I miss the days of Bill Cosby, the Brady Bunch, and the Andy
This makes me more grateful for BYU tv. Has anyone watched American Ride? I
love that program. There's lots more great programs on BYU tv.
Isn't it interesting that this announcement was made on April 1?
To Brave Sir Robin and LDS Liberal:If you two still don't know
the difference, then there's almost no chance of you understanding the
explanation. Is it really true that ignorance is bliss? Just wondering.
SLarsProvo, UTI don't want my grandchildren hearing or seeing
this. If this is the liberal idea of raising children, start running
around your house nude and using foul language. Don't bring it to my
house.3:11 p.m. April 11, 2013 ============= Liberals?This is your Free Market Capitalists who are driving this
one.Anything for a buck!Sex sells,Sales mean $BTW
- Liberals LIKE Government controls and restrictions, even if it business
friendly - remember?
Yes! Also the new sitcom produced by BYUtv on Sundays at 6:00 PM. You can
catch up on the first 2 series this week, as they are being played several times
during the week. The title of the sitcom is Granite Flats, which is a
ficticious town in Colorado in the 1960's. It is actually being filmed in
Magna, Utah, and has some fairly well known adult and children actors and
actresses. It is a G rated show and has plenty of action and a good plot. A
fun, exciting and wholesome show.
So wait, the FCC hasn't relaxed their standards already??? Now THAT's
news to me!!!
The so-called isolated incidents are mostly intentional because those who commit
the acts are never held accountable. It is just like the "apology" farse
we are witnessing. Those who commit the acts know they can apologize for saying
or doing extremely personal things and they are immediately given a pass. It is
a joke to them and a joke on those whom they despise fo their so-called
intolerance. Personally, I think it is time to pull the plug.
Do some of you live in this fantasy world where you, as a parent, can say
"My children shall not watch this", and it is suddenly true? Network
television is very accessible. I could do all I can to stop my children from
watching shows with the f-bomb or frontal nudity, but they could happen to see
it at their friends house. Also, Guess what? kids like watching TV! And
sometimes parents aren't home to monitor what they watch. I am fine with
certain cable or pay per view channels having this obscene content, as well as
movies. If an adult wants to pay to see it, then see it. But I do not want my
children exposed to it.
Anybody concerned about this issue should google: snopes fcc and read about this
issue. It is true that the FCC is re-considering its standards as a
response to fines issued against Fox for violations. Fox brought suit against
the FCC challenging the fines. The FCC is seeking public input on
I wonder if it would be possible to get a list of the sponsors of the most
filthy and offensive shows, publish the list and let people decide if they want
to support those sponsors with their business. Just a suggestion.
We have to much on TV as it is. Me as a person will turn to another Chanel to
watch something that is more to my liking. It will not be one that promotes more
skin. It will come to a point that I will no turn on the TV unless I know what
Is being televised is of a higher standard than the ones you are going show.
Those ads that are paying your wages will not be seen by me or my family. That
way you might learn what we would really like an don't show things that we
do not want coming into our an my home.
Many many good comments. Stop watching tv, and write to the FCC and tell them
what a huge mistake they are making. We need to make our voices heard.
Never fails... we have a discussion about the lines of decency being moved in
the wrong direction and someone pulls out freedom of speech. I think we need a
reminder about the intentions of why that exists. And yes.. This is why
capitalism works. Just like using our dollars to vote on whether a product or
company is successful we can do the same thing with our viewership. We
don't need government to spend our money to ensure every institution in our
Standards?TV has standards? Who knew?
David, your old fashioned.
Freedom is freedom.
The broadcast companies have become desperate like a bad comedian who turns to
trashy jokes for humor. This shouldn't be considered an adult
issue, it's a child protection issue and it angers me that I have to fight
so hard for my children to experience a world of decency and respect for all.
What broadcast companies are begging for is debasing and dehumanizing. Great societies protect children, the future.
re:lds liberalWe want less government. The FCC has allowed broadcast
companies to hide behind their skirts for years, blocking massive protest
against what is already on tv. If the gov. stepped out of the way, the people
would be heard and this wouldn't be an issue.
The first few days after the FCC's comment period opened up, only 20 or 30
comments came in per day. By the 7th day there were thousands, tens of
thousands, overwhelmingly against the relaxation of standards. Keep the
comments coming. Look up FCC Docket No. 13-86.One reason they gave
is the hundreds of thousands of so-called "less-egregious" cases they
have decided to just drop because of their enormous backlog. Imagine this
scenario, a call from our Coast Guard to President Obama, "Mr. President,
hundreds of thousands of enemy soldiers have just overrun our defenses and are
approaching your home. Let's just ignore the ones with rifles and focus
instead on tanks and artillery."
And the war on morality continues...
FOX is the network in question that initiated this possibility. They are
fighting a fine by the FCC and triggering the pondering of relaxing the
standards. I hear none of my conservatives friends mentioning the fact that it
is FOX that is fighting their fines.
Simple solution: Cancel your TV Cable and Satellite service; hook your computer
to your TV and watch your own selections online. Get news from the internet
(there's much more truth there), or, just Vote with your Remote, and
let the corrupt TV industry and the FCC know the power of the American people.
If there are few viewers, there will be fewer sponsors and few
dollars coming in, then, this instrument of corruption will lose the power of
influence and collapse.
This article failed to note that this is more focused on whether or not they
will relax standards on accidental instances (like say those times when a sports
microphone catches an athlete or fan yelling one of the banned words). It
wouldn't actually give carte blanche to do whatever they want in this
SamwiseWelcome to parenting. You wanted to do the crime, now do the
time. Just because you can't watch your kids doesn't mean the
government needs to step in and do it for you. It means try harder, instill
principles in your kids and hope they live by them.
@ NoodlekaboodleComparing this to the 2nd Amendment is totally ludicrous.
You don't sell guns in the in the children's toy isle at Walmart, but
you can buy them at the appropriate outlet. The open airways are much like the
children's toy isle. Parents can't supervise what children view when
it is so readily available, such as the video wall at your local furniture or
electronics outlet. If you want your nudity, you can go watch at the appropriate
outlet, cable or satellite where parental restrictions can be places on the
set-top box. If you can't see the sanity, or practicality in it, then maybe
we should be selling liquor and cigarets in the candy isle.And
it's ironic that it is only "female" frontal nudity. That sounds a
bit discriminatory. I hope the women polled for this decision are perfectly
happy with this and don't find it to be exploiting their sex. It appears
most here that are beating their chest about 1st Amendment rights to allow this
are men. What a coincidence.Seems the solution is to ban all free
off-air television and require only wired or encrypted connections.
"murder and violence are rated PG, too bad for the children, they are what
they see"so sings Joe Walsh.I too can't hardly watch the TV
for the ever increasing use of offensive language referring to anatomy crudely
on what used to be the family hours of prime time TV. Drama shows have turned
into a killing spree of blood, guts & murder that you can't miss even
if your just turning through the channels. Then there are the Viagra ads during
football season which is hard to explain to the kiddies.And they want
frontal nudity & the king of all swear words?Thank heavens for the BYU
channels! As other posters have mentioned the shows are family friendly and yes
we too like the motorcycle guy show.
Sneak Attacks --- "people can band together and not watch these types of
programs". Sounds like a good solution, except we *had* a safe time period
when we didn't have to worry about it. We won't know "these--
programs" until it's too late. Consider a school
crosswalk --- we'll let an occasional demolition derby and crazy driver
through without ticketing --- oh sure!
From the Reuters article cited:"Under a 2001 FCC policy that was
amended in 2004, network and local radio and television channels can be fined up
to $325,000 for a single fleeting expletive blurted out on a live show or for
brief glimpses of nudity. Cable and satellite operators are not subject to such
rules.The most publicized case in recent years was the so-called
"wardrobe malfunction" that allowed part of Jackson's breast to be
briefly exposed during a half-time show for the 2004 Super Bowl football
championship that drew half a million complaints.CBS was fined $550,000
but the fine was thrown out by the Supreme Court in a separate judgment in late
June 2012.The Supreme Court said that the FCC rules were vague and
that it had not given fair notice of a tougher stance that resulted in
three-high profile incidents that resulted in complaints and fines against U.S.
To sum it up:The FCC tried to enforce more strict standards and were
sued, lost, and the Supreme Court ruled against them.They are now
asking for public input.So, public, let them know. DN
maybe you could try reporting on something without always including the
hyperbolic right-winged fear mongerers?
George Carlin will be doing flips in his grave. Already a few of his "7
words" are routinely mentioned on air. Won't be long now before all are
common language. For tv at least.I am a moderate guy, but it would
be nice if a few networks still had some decency and put out some family
friendly programming. I understand the "if you don't like it,
don't watch it" argument, but if nothing decent is made for tv., where
will the choice come from?
Interesting comments about the proposal the FCC is considering. I've never
watched prime-time TV very much. I've just stopped cable TV, and I focus my
TV-time on MeTV (4.2 in SLC), BYUtv (11.2 in SLC), and so far PBS (7.1 and 11.1
in SLC). 30.1 (Ogden and SLC) still has decent programs during the day.
Regardless what the government decides to do, families still have primary
responsibility to decide what will be watched in their home. Families need to
select the programs they consider appropriate and not watch the rest. In the
past, we've relied on government to make choices for us, but that may
become an unacceptable path to follow.One thing that I think is
interesting is that the LDS church owns KSL, and if NBC via KSL starts carrying
programs using frontal nudity and the "F" word, it will be interesting
to see what the church does. In fact, it will be interesting to see what all the
SLC stations do.
samwise has a good point. Parents can do as much as they can to insure that only
TV programs with "proper" content are viewed, but parents can't
prevent their kids from being exposed and watching TV in the homes of their
friends. It's critical that parents teach themselves and their kids to make
their own decisions about their friends and what is "proper" TV content.
TV producers will follow the bucks and produce shows that they believe will
attract large audiences, and parents and families must take control of their
lives and make their own decisions about TV.
To "Allen" KSL will do what it has done in the past. They will choose
to not show programming that has frontal nudity and profanity that previously
has been prohibited.
Redshirt1701, we'll see. They might lose their network coverage if they
choose to not show a lot of network programs. I don't know how much control
the church has over NBC for channel 5 or PBS for channel 11. I don't know
how far the church is willing to compromise to keep its network connections.
Channel 7 (PBS) has a few raunchy programs that channel 11 (PBS) doesn't
carry, so there is apparently some latitude for the individual stations to
choose programs without losing their network connections. Network programming is
important to the church, because it gives the church national exposure. I'm
not sure NBC gives the church positive exposure, but PBS does. However, I think
it is likely PBS will change if the FCC changes. So, we'll see what the
church does for channel 5 and channel 11. I'm just grateful that the church
has full control over BYUtv. BYUtv has the advantage that it is its own network
and has complete control over things.
I hope a lot of families will give input to the FCC to let the politicians in
Washington know how people feel about this issue, and I hope a lot of families
will let the networks know via the channels they watch how families feel about
this. Networks go where the money (advertising) is, and families can affect the
ratings of TV shows and thus affect the dollars given to the networks for
One vote,I'm old fashioned & glad for it.
Let's see...Strict Constitutionalist conservatives believe
there should be NO restrictions whatsoever with weapons - even for children,
criminals, and the mentally ill...yet, do a complete
about face 180 when it comes to Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Speech, and
Freedom of Expression [in this case, TV].You can't cherry
pick.You either are, or you are not.Stop being such
hypocrites.BTW -- I'd rather my children be exposed to
women's frontal nudity on television, that the pointed end of an
assulat rifle by a mentally insane nut-job at school or malls.But
then, that's why conservaitves hate me so.[I have common sense]
Hollywood and broadcast liberals continue there assault on the American Family.
They won't stop until good family values are crushed.
No, no, no, no, no!
Why don't all of you who are so ridiculously concerned about your children
hearing a "naughty word" and being forever-corrupted spend a little more
time WITH your children instead of leaving them with the TV as a make-shift
babysitter while you get online and throw e-tantrums over said possibility of
them hearing the naughty words? You decided to breed, now it's your job to
@Redshirt1701"They will choose to not show programming that has
frontal nudity and profanity that previously has been prohibited."That's not an issue, the FCC is not changing their standard for
deliberate usage of those things only accidental incidents. KSL wouldn't
know what to ban because it'd be something like a curse word getting from a
player or fan being heard on a sports microphone.
If you are worried about even more relaxation of standards of television shows,
maybe you should be entertaining your family with more appropriate shows. The
shows you hope to continue to love will have to make the choice to include that
kind of wording and will take into consideration what their viewers have
continued to enjoy and do not want. Remember, there are such things
as parental controls that can keep your family from seeing shows that will
provide strong language and nudity. If you do not like where
television is going, maybe you should find something else besides cable
television and put that additional money towards something wholesome for your
I do not want this garbage on my TV where unsuspecting children can be exposed
to it while channel surfing. I hope these comments are being sent to the
appropriate people so this can be stopped. Like all previous degradations of
the media, once it is put into place it will never go away.Sandra Elijah
"Personally I find television very educational. Whenever someone turns on
the set, I go in the other room and pick up a book"Groucho Marx
Are you kidding me, have you people NO SHAME!!!! Leave television the old
fashion way so the whole family can enjoy. There's no freedom anywhere in
this country for decent family quality time!!!!