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Published: Tuesday, April 9 2013 7:43 p.m. MDT

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The Reader
Layton, UT

I certainly hope the senate and the house will vote on the gun bills. We, the public need to see our legislature working together to get something positive done.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sen. Lee- Please be prepared, and step up and speak for as long as it takes to halt any infringement on our rights, especially the deceptively named "universal background checks" which are nothing but a scheme to register every gun and gun owner which would do nothing to reduce crime, but is essential for eventual confiscation of privately owned guns.

It is telling that Sen. Lee has principles and announces his positions, while our superannuated senior Senator Hatch plays his usual chameleon political role by pretending to "study" and then after sensing which way the polls are trending will announce his position. It is embarrassing when the new kid on the block is a better senator than one with 36 years seniority.

In any case, Obama's gun ban schemes need to be stopped by whatever means necessary.

Conner Johnson

Sen. Lee— please don't make Utahns look like a bunch of idiots. How you sleep at night is beyond me.

worf
Mcallen, TX

High taxes are destroying the economy, and peoples lives.

Let Obama fly around with Air Force One, and campaign for "tax control".

DaveRL
OGDEN, UT

I have been a hunter all my life, I don't use assault weapons to hunt and it never takes more than one bullet to get the job done - if it did I would spend more time at the shooting range. If I felt threaten at home my 12 gauge would be the first thing I would grab. Why anyone would be opposed to the measurements like background checks, assault weapon/high capacity magazine regulations is beyond common sense, that is unless you have something to hide. I have heard the argument of "taking our weapons away" but that is just a paranoid delusion, no one has said anything about taking guns away. What I want to know how many dead children will it take to satisfy Senator Lee and his supporters?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"I don't understand it," McCain said on a Sunday morning talk show. "What are we afraid of?""

They are afraid that they will be forced to take a vote that they know is against the wishes of the majority of Americans. (around 90% of Americans favor background checks)

They they will have to explain why they voted the way they did.

Filibuster = no votes.

Its all about politics as the GOP can stop any bill from passing.

HS Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

Hypocrites. That's what our politicans are. Senator Lee is a terrible Senator and a poor example of our State. Senator Bennett was a statesman who played an active role in our democracy. Senator Lee is far from that. He'll never get anything done and will continue to be isolated by others in D.C. because of his narrow, partisan views and tactics.

worf
Mcallen, TX

DaveRL=gun rights are protection from government, not hunting. Have you tried buying ammo lately? Think government isn't trying to take away our guns?

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

I'd like to see the vote in the Senate just because there are some republican state Democrats who will be very reluctant to show their true colors with the vote. It will be interesting to see how Harry Reid trys to protect them. It might end up being Reid who does not want this vote, as it could cost him the majority in the 2014 election.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

‘Sen. Lee says fight against gun control likely won't include 'speaking filibuster'’

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Let me guess...

He floated a political balloon and it got popped,
when he discoverd that 85% of Utahns favor, wanted and support back-ground checks?

But he continues to pander to last reamining 15% of the extreme radical right-wing who keep thinking that because the Founding Fathers didn't bother to expound and specifically spell out each and every thing allowed or not allowed by the 2nd amendment
[such as, banning weapons from children, criminals, and the mentally ill]
because the writers of the Constitution assumed we'd be smart enough 230 years later to use our good own common sense and figure out that isn't such a good idea on our own?!

Seriously.

not here
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO

Hey Worf, I ask you this seeing how you bad mouth a lot of people and things on here. And just where is it stated under your 2 amendment rights that your a forded bullets? And if you feel the need to shoot then the cost of said bullets should not be a concern to you or any one else that shoots. And as another person stated on a different page people will get them no matter the cost and they compared it to crack heads wanting crack where there's away there's a will.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

It's amazing how well one can sleep at night when you have made a decision based on principles, which in this case is the Constitution.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

Does anyone else remember the days not so long ago when republicans insisted on allowing simple up and down votes? Does anyone here really think those same people will have any insight into why we have a system in place that allows the minority in the senate to block certain legislation when the shoe is on the other foot?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

worf
Mcallen, TX
DaveRL=gun rights are protection from government, not hunting. Have you tried buying ammo lately? Think government isn't trying to take away our guns?

8:49 a.m. April 10, 2013

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Let me guess --
another vast-right-wing conspiracy.

The gv'mnt taken away dim dar bullets! hrumpf!

Ever hear of supply and demand?
Eco 101

If you gun nuts weren't ALL out buying up as much ammo as you can get your hands on, hording up enough ammo to prepare for a ficticous armegeddeon that isn't real - there'd be plenty of ammo.

You are a victim of your OWN making.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

“I never rule out anything. But I don't anticipate, given the procedural posture we're in with this bill, the need to use a speaking filibuster.”

"I'm a politician. I'm always prepared to speak at length, but I don't anticipate that's going to happen."

Sen. Mike Lee

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Says the man who stopped making paymetns on his mortgage,
and somehow negotiated a sweet deal short-sale on his mansion,
sticking it to the rest of us who DO make our finacial obligations and live within our means.

Perhaps he filibustered the bank holding his note?
Just refused to agree on any terms until they finally just gave up?

THAT says more about Mike Lee, than Mike Lee says about Mike Lee.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" I don't think you know anything about what you have written today.

First of all the Government IS buying up a lot of ammunition. See Forbes "1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation". Why does Homeland Security need that many rounds.

Second, when a person gets a short sale on a home, the only entity that has to eat the cost is the bank. If a bank loses money on a short sale, there are no reprocussions for anybody except their stock holders, and then that is very minor compared to when a bank has to forclose on a home.

Nice rants, but once again factually lacking on your part.

UtahDemocrat
Salt Lake City, UT

If Mike Lee wants to stand for something, let him walk the talk. A threatened "nonspeaking" filibuster does nothing to move the debate forward, to protect the constitution, or to safeguard the general public. Have the courage of your convictions or step aside, Mr. Senator. If you have nothing to add to the conversation, Senator Lee, then vote "NO" on the bill and move on to issues you can talk about.

Melanna
Salt Lake City, Utah

@redshirt
did I log into some alternate universe? Did a conservative poster really just ask why the people charged with defending our country really need to buy so much ammo and insist we need to have a national conversation about why they are doing so?

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Re: Tolstoy

You do have a good point. My only comment is that our system seems to have balances built into it that allow minority power so that the majority will not always overwhelm the minortiy. Look at what happened with Obamacare when the Democrats had supermajorities and passed it without any minority input. That being said, I think it is in the courts where this principle really applies, as in a hand full of judges can legislate to overturn the will of the majority of people. Prop 8 probably being the latest coming example. Sometimes minority power works for you and sometimes it doesn't. I'd rather have the fillabuster in the Senate than a few judges blocking the peoples vote. At least we can throw those bums out.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

If all those who want this gun legislation could actually show how this will help stop what the proponents actually say it will do, please step up and show me some evidence. The evidence of violence in the states that have the strictest gun laws does not hold up as a reason to support this legislation. In fact, the evidence is quite the contrary. Those states that are the safest have the most liberal gun laws. But, when citizens are driven by compulsion, rather than liberty, nothing can or ever will be said that could persuade that citizen otherwise.

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