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Published: Tuesday, April 9 2013 1:50 p.m. MDT

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Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

A big THANK YOU to Sens. Hatch and Lee for trying to at least have detailed hearings on immigration reform!

No doubt the "Chamber" is disappointed.

They've been advocating for jobs for illegal trespassers over LEGAL Americans for several years now.

Why pay decent wages when you can instead just send a donation to whatever Congressperson will do you the most good?

Lately, high tech firms have caught on to what illegal/unethical businesses have known for years. Make the claim that you can't find ANYONE to fill your high tech jobs, and voila - you get sympathy from the open borders crowd to be able to keep the college-trained here in the U.S. instead of paying U.S. citizens the prevailing wages rate!

A citizen of India will work here for HALF what his U.S. counterpart will.

BTW - just to illustrate how much the "chamber" knows - the 11 million number that amnesty advocates continually toss around is false. The number is closer to 20-25 million. Kalifornia alone thinks they have 7-9 million.

But then, we'll never really know because La Raza doesn't want us to know!

Thats why the Senate hearings are needed.

RichardB
Murray, UT

It takes voters to recall elected officials, not Chambers of commerce. Why should Utah's labor vote out people so you can get your cheap, taxpayer subsidized labor.

Same on you, put Americans to work first, instead of depressing their wages and pushing them out of jobs. Your greed is showing.

prelax
Murray, UT

Among the Salt Lake Chamber chairmanships, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
Deseret Management Companies, MediaOne join a handful of banks, and utilities. With this business vs labor battle coming, I think they should get out of a business organization.

It seems wrong without the coming battle.

prelax
Murray, UT

Science magazine contradicted the notion of a shrinking supply of native-born talent in United States. "Those who advocate increasing the supply of STEM talent should cool their ardor a little bit," says one of its authors, B. Lindsay Lowell, a demographer at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.The supply has actually remained steady over the past 30 years, the researchers conclude from an analysis of six longitudinal surveys conducted by the U.S. government from 1972 to 2005. However, the highest-performing students in the pipeline are opting out of science and engineering in greater numbers from a lack incentives that would make science and technology careers attractive.

By depressing wages in S&T fields with the H-1b visa and turning potential science and technology innovators into other fields of study. .

RRB
SLC, UT

So it wasn't about compassion or the Chambers "Compact". It was about greed.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

It never ceases to amaze me how these advocates come out of the woodwork when the push is on in Washington.
I could care less what The Chamber wants.
Or the AFL-CIO.
Or the church leaders.
Or Latino advocates.
I care (and so should our elected leaders) about our country and its people.
Why introduce millions of legal workers to compete with our own entry-level citizens? When you combine our adults without college who are out of work and our unemployed teens you get well over 35 million available workers. Let's entice them to go to work.
And lets not open the floodgates for even more social service benefits to those who trespassed into our nation.
Let's have a discussion about enforcement of our laws and putting pressure on illegals to leave. Yes, it will seem like stiff treatment. But to give them a wink and a nod is not fair to our own who need jobs.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

This isn't really about labor shortage. Nor is it about "compassion," and "family values."

It is about a shortage of Americans who are able and willing to accept substandard wages because of greedy Utah businessmen's unwillingness to pay their fellow Americans a fair wage. And so, these businessmen falsely claim that there is a "labor shortage" when on the contrary, we have high unemployment, high underemployment, depressed wages, and American mothers and father both having to work long hours and abandon their children to day care in in an effort to eke out a meagre subsistence.

So much for "compassion," and "family values."

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

The reason Lane Beattie is is a panic is because amnesty for the Chamber's cheap labor pool has never been closer to reality and he is worried it might get derailed. The Chamber's brainchild, the Utah Compact, has successfully demonized anyone who calls for obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. The accompanying propaganda campaign has successfully conned many Utahns into thinking that enforcing the law is cruel, inhumane, and impossible, and that looking the other way at illegal immigration and causing innocent parties to suffer in the process, is "compassion."

Now, Beattie is desperately urging IMMEDIATE passage of "comprehensive immigration reform" (notice he won't come right out and say "amnesty," or "legalization," which of course is what he's really talking about), because he is terrified that all that wonderful work that the Utah Compact and accompanying propaganda will be exposed for what this whole thing really is all about: pure, unbridled GREED.

watchman
Salt Lake City, UT

It sounds like Beattie is anxious for our senators to support a rush into adopting immigration reform much like Beattie helped push the Utah legislature into adopting HB 116 without reading or understanding it back in 2011.

The Salt Lake Chamber, much like the U S Chamber, chose to disregard the sad situations that a 'pathway to citizenship' can create for American citizens and American jobs.

True and good Immigration Reform must be thoroughly understood and agreed to before adoption by congress. Commendations to Hatch and Lee for using more common sense in the issue.

Danish American
Payson, UT

Yes, let's reward people for breaking the law. They knew when they came here they were breaking the law. If we enforced the laws we have now about hiring of illegals and punished the businesses that did, the problem would solve itself. We need to go back to when the workers came here for the season then went back home.

activ2004
Clearfield, UT

I saw Mr. Beattie on one of the local news channels last night, he seemed like he was under some sort of duress, (I do hope he is in good health), I wonder what is so urgent that we smaller people continue to be urgently deceived when it comes to illegal immigration (human trafficking).

I am drafting an e-mail which will be sent to the Media execs, Attorneys General, Governors, Chamber of Commerce (unintended, human trafficking facilitators) Presidents urging them to come out and open their eyes to the morbid, sleazy, abusive, violent, costly plague of human trafficking, then perhaps, maybe we, society, can start having a grown-up discussion about immigration.

Please accept these comments in the spirit for which they meant. I am sickened that I do not have a larger voice and influence when it comes to protecting the lives of over 800 children, 'boys' and girls, a day who are bought and sold right in front of our eyes.

Hunt
Spanish Fork, UT

The big secret that is kept and swept under the rug is the many victims of identity theft and the other crimes that come with illegal immigrants who are willing to pay for the identities made available to them by the dark and evil criminals who are oh so willing to profit from this crime. But this would not be an issue if it weren't for businesses willing to turn a blind eye by hiring these same illegal workers.
Make no mistake. The Chambers of Commerce in Utah are not the friends of those that seek a fair wage through legal employment. They are looking out for the business owners who are so quick and willing to jump on the profits that come with the festering problem of illegal labor. Illegal hiring practices, continue to perpetuate the suppression of wages, fraud, identity theft and all the other crimes that come with inviting illegal and in turn criminal elements into our state.

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