Isn't one of the blessings of the Priesthood the opportunity to be
considered for leadership positions within the Church (serving as a Bishop or as
a Mission President)? Since sisters in the Church cannot hold the
Priesthood, they cannot serve in so many leadership callings. I think we
brethren in the Church, if we are honest with ourselves, will gladly concede
that many of our sisters, wives and mothers have leadership skills that equal or
surpass those we possess, and those that are possessed by our brothers and
fathers. I believe that the Church is led by messengers of the
Lord, and I would never seek to counsel them. But I see nothing pernicious in
an organization of faithful sisters who ask the Brethren, respectfully, to
consider whether the restriction on conferring priesthood authority on sisters
is truly the Lord's immutable law, or whether it is a culturally-inspired
practice that can and should change, as the Genesis Group did when so many of us
thought that the denial of Priesthood to black Africans was the law of the Lord,
and would probably not change until the Millenium.
You people in Salt Lake City and surrounding area sure do find a lot of ways to
make excuses for something that is outright wrong. The stories you tell
yourselves about Heavenly Father and what Heavenly Father wants....well...how do
you know? A human told you! You don't actually know what "Heavenly
Father" wants, because Heavenly Father does not speak. A man just says what
he wants to see happen...and you all act like it is divine. When you elect a
woman or a black person to a position of power in your church, you might have
something to talk about. Mitt got more people to look at your state and the way
you do things. Turns out, most Americans don't agree or like it. Your
numbers are shrinking and you would not be reaching out if your money supply was
not shrinking also. Eventually you will have to face the realities that
everybody else faces. White males just are not superior. We don't believe
you any more.
I read as many comments as I could. The arrogance of the men in Utah drove me
to move away 25 years ago. The idea that men are 'letting' women do
anything is just wrong. Woman are human beings who are just as intelligent and
capable as men to lead. Nobody has to 'let' them, unless you live in
Utah. I quit subscribing to this news feed...but suddenly it appeared again in
my mail. The Mormon Church is reaching out because the number of women is
diminishing. It's not rocket science. The rest of the country shakes its
head at Utah's strange ways and how you think men 'let' women do
ANYTHING. Equal is equal. One does not lord over another. How arrogant can you
Sally from Kearns....it is not 'women's lib' that caused the
competitiveness.' THAT has always been the case. Who is the MOST
religious. Who is the MOST pious. Who is the MOST important. There is a
pecking order, which is why women are likened to chickens. There are many
sayings that call women words that mean 'hen.' Watch Cranford, a PBS
historical production. It has always been so.
Junkgeek,Wrong on the Emma Smith/Word of Wisdom story. Take a look
at the Joseph Smith paper's series. You will be enlightened or at least
educated.One telling story, however, in my humble opinion is the
widely documented story of the Lost Manuscripts. Joseph pled with God, and my
understanding is that Heavenly Father basically said, "Since you won't
listen to me, go ahead". Not that I think He will say that regarding the
priesthood, but just to point out that Heavenly Father will accomplish His work
in spite of our grumblings. Bottom line is that this is or it
isn't the work of our Savior. If it is, your kicking against the pricks so
to speak. If it isn't the Saviors work then men will change it.I believe it is His work. So it will be what He wants it to be.
I grew up in the ERA era.The way it was explained to me as I was just
beginning my teenage years was that God had two great and sacred gifts. He gave
one to women(bearing children) men (Priesthood). Each came with stress and
heartache and pain... each came with wonder and beauty and eternal realities.
Soooooooooo the way I see it - when REAL men start giving birth to babies
then I will start yelling about things being UN-equal! For now... we stand equal
in God's eyes and that is good enough for me.
There's a disease of whining spreading through out the country.For people who disagree with church policy, --just leave.
Dennis: There's lots of ways I'd rather have done things in my life.
When I learn to give up the way I want to do something and do it the way the
Lord wants me to, I am much more successful. Fortunately this isn't our
church. Unfortunately, more people are forgetting that.
(1)Male and Female have always existed as separate genders, hence, we were
created here with the same differences. It is vital to remember that we have
been taught by revelation that this is crucial to all the plans of Heaven for
us. We cannot support making men and women "equal", or in other words,
"the same", in ways not intended by God and remain His people and
support His plan and Will.We also know that (2)Lucifer/Satan is
working diligently to destroy this relationship because it would also harm and
eventually destroy the family, even more than current efforts to take children
from families and give them to the state. The more he can do to make women
unhappy being women, and get them to work to become like men, and vice-versa,
the "happier" he is, and the worse off we are. This is only the first
step to destroy God's will; worse things will happen next.I am
not opposed to women seeking parity in jobs, etc. But the Priesthood is
"ordained of God" and cannot be altered by "man's will" -
The reason some are confused or unhappy about why women don't hold the
Priesthood is because we are trying to make the Church into just another worldly
organization, such as the UN. For one thing, when this order was established,
survival was a daily battle, so we were organized based on strength, size,
child-rearing, etc. Now, we don't need that for survival, but it still is
the best way according to God. The world denies even the existence of God and
thus, ignores His wishes and instruction, which means the selfish desires of men
and women trump God's wishes.In the Church, we still believe in
God and do His will. Women do not hold the Priesthood to be free to provide the
24/7 care which God requires for family, though they are still needed for
leadership. Sometimes men are gone for long hours and days due to Priesthood
office. Women could not do that and obey God. Just because we have a society
which gets by without giving children and family the 24/7 care of women,
doesn't make it OK. God does not compete for attention!
Re: Just a Question - First of all, what is the question? Second, while you are
entitled to your opinion about how the video was presented, you have taken
another step and shared that with others and maybe influenced some in a negative
way, so I thought I would ask YOU a question: suppose, as you say, the
presentation was a bit stiff and didn't sound as smooth or professional or
personal or whatever, as you wished it to. That is OK. Are you sure there is
some negative, subversive reason or purpose behind that? Or could it be that
the women, not being used to making videos to be seen by millions of people, are
not as skilled at acting as they are at leading women in the Church? So, they
wrote a script to follow. In reading their script, that they wrote, perhaps
they, like so many others of us, tended to read the script instead of acting it
out. Then, it sounded a bit "wooden", a bit like it was not
spontaneous. This is just as possible, as is the idea that they had a nefarious
purpose behind their video and didn't sound animated.
My two cents: The doctrine concerning men holding the priesthood wont change.
Men have the authority to command and direct through the priesthood while women
have the responsibility to be a co-partener with God in bringing children into
this world and raising them with love and faith. Look at it this way, we as
members of the LDS church are taught that the family is the basis of all
creation; it is the reason we are all here. Within the family unit, the father
(priesthood holder) is the "head" of the home, but the woman is the
"neck." She can, in an indirect way, be part of the priesthood
authority. While she does not hold it, she can help and encourage her husband
make those critical family decisions that require the use of the priesthood. Some women in the church may feel disgruntled because they cannot hold
the priesthood, but I think it is important to remember that even if women
cannot hold the priesthood, they can be an influence for good and help make
those important decisions. Behind every good man is a great woman.
This is the "issue de jour" in our society. The role of women within the
family as well as leadership roles in both church and state. The Democrats have
their version of the truth. Teilhard de Chardin has his. As a Republican voter
and Navy vet, I would hope that the Republicans can come up with a viable
solution or else they will fade just like the Whigs before the Democrats split
into the major parties of today.
I'd much rather have women in authority. They're better organizers
and make sure things get done. Men "hope" things get done.
I think LDS women don't necessarily want the priesthood, but many do want a
greater say in church affairs. And since many meetings where decisions are made
only involve priesthood holders, you see why some women feel left out.And there are definitely callings that are traditionally male or female that
don't have to be. Why must the primary president always be a woman? There
are some great dads out there who would be outstanding in that calling. Why
can't a woman be Sunday school president? If the church wishes
to attract more members, it will have to address this issue.
Shimmer,I agree with you - motherhood and a number of other
justifications are used as a way to "show" that women should not hold
the priesthood. However, none of these justifications are scripturally
based.In fact, it is just the opposite. Both the Old and New
Testaments and anthropological evidence show proof that women were called and -
as it should be the restoration of all things, is not the priesthood one of
them? The ban of women from the priesthood comes from a different
source other than Biblical authority - such as Medieval orthodoxy and Puritan
Well said, USA Lover, well said.A healthy dose of humility would
serve many of us well. How dare any of us think we can presume to know more of
how the Church should be run than God.
The question that seems asking is what decisions would be different if women
were priesthood holders? The video answers that with showing the input is
there, with the respect. Works that way not only in the councils these three
women sit on, but locally as well. In practice the local RS President is as
involved and indeed usually more influential in the affairs of a ward. The
Primary Presidency is entirely female. The YM/YW are essentially split 50/50.
Mission presidents serve with their wives, as do the temple presidencies --
sharing teaching, training and speaking duties. Inside the temple you'll
know that women are officiating ordinances. In a paid clergy, sure if women
couldn't hold priesthood they'd not be paid; or being discriminated
against, paid less and so forth. It is a lay church where women are
participating and running things in most every facet. So again, exactly what
would be gained or be different if women held the priesthood? Those who
understand the restored gospel and the workings of the church know the answer to
that question is nothing.
I've always said that we are preparing for His return. On that day, there
will be no "hyperventilating" over social issues, political agendas,
defamation accusations, gender-equality debates or marches/parades.What you think personally about anything won't matter much when darkness
covers the earth and the moon changes color.My guess is
"humility" will rule the day. We will get "over ourselves" and
our petty issues pretty quickly.
I'm a convert to the LDS faith and sometimes I have questions. The Sisters
in this article did a great job expressing their perspective on the equality of
women in the Church. Sometimes I think about whether, since women are allowed
to serve missions, they might at some point serve as a bishop, stake president,
member of the Quorum of the Twelve or even as Prophet. However, I know that this
is not, nor should it be, the current practice in the LDS faith. The reason it
should not currently be the case is that the Lord has not told the Prophet that
it should be. Will this happen in the future? I have no idea. However, blacks
now hold the Priesthood so perhaps that day will come. I have confidence that
our leadership in prayerful consultation with our Heavenly Father will make the
right decision at the right time as they have in the past. I'm not going to
worry about it though my personal belief is that the LDS faith would not have
survived to this day without the good works of our Sisters.
The women that want the priesthood power are thinking "equal equal" not
"different but equal". I mentioned this on fb the other day and another
poster told me in the world she "lived in" everything was "equal
equal". Really? If we both have a candy bar, and you have your favorite, and
I have mine, is there a reason for either of us to feel shortchanged over having
our favorite and not exactly the same as the other person has. The
power of the preisthood that men hold, and the power to create that women hold,
are meant to work hand in hand. Sure they are different, but equally important.
Even the scriptures point out that we are to be "equally
junk, there was massive attention and prayer about the extension of the
priesthood to all worthy men long before 1978. President David O. McKay was
struggling and pleading with the Lord about it in the 1950s. And there had been
efforts even before that. This was not a new topic for the Church, nor were the
leaders ignoring it until "forced" to address it by the Civil Rights
activism in the late 1960s. Pres. McKay said he was told by the Lord to wait.
When the Lord wanted it to happen, it did. Argue the timing with Him.
Motherhood and the priesthood administration of church affairs are not the same,
and never will be. The fact that 15 men head this church without any equal
female leadership is inconsistent with the words of God that all men and women,
bond and free, black and white (read that in spiritual, not skin color terms)
are loved and respected by Him. That means that the culturally derived bans on
priesthood for people of African descent and women are inconsistent with
God's plan--the latter is part of an ancient semitic culture. Those who
propagate it in the church are following their own culture, not Christ's
doctrine. I am an active member of the church, married in the temple, returned
missionary, full tithe payer, mother of five (4 who died), and working woman.
How an I disqualified from commenting? This isn't a social movement, it is
a recognition of God's ways over the philosophies of men. No scriptural
support exists for any priesthood ban, including this one, that has ever existed
in the church. Study and pray about it, when the Prophets do that, we'll
see a change. One doesn't have to leave the church to agree.
junkgeek,It is true that some changes in the church were instigated
by questions, etc, from members. But the Word of Wisdom is a good example.
Emma went to Joseph. What did Joseph do with that? Did he just change the
rules, or write his own new set of rules? No, he considered the matter, then
took it to the Lord, and the Lord gave us the Word of Wisdom.I
believe the same is true of every change in church doctrine. And some changes
that people want will never happen in the doctrine of the church. Our will can
never supersede the will of the Father. God does not take direction from man or
woman, and anyone who believes He does need to give serious consideration to his
I am a "just" a chorister but have never felt that I was not
important...nor even less important than the Relief Society President. As a
woman in The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I am as important and
as worthwhile as I make myself to be. My Heavenly Father loves me no matter
what. I can make him proud or I can sadden him...it is up to me. I have no
desire to hold the Priesthood...but I do hope that I can UPHOLD the Priesthood.
Our Priesthood leaders show respect to the women of our unit by trusting and
asking for their opinions and ideas. I am a strong woman and feel that I can add
a lot of wisdom and experience to our unit.(if asked)
Having read the pleas of many faithful LDS women, I find that the majority of
LDS women asking for change are not asking to hold the priesthood at all.
They're not asking for any doctrinal changes, but changes to traditions
found in the church.I was so pleased to see women saying the prayer
at conference. I admit to wondering about that for years, as having the
priesthood has nothing to do with saying a prayer at conference. That is not a
doctrinal change but a welcome change in "how things have been done."
This and with the announcement of the new mission leadership council that will
include women warmed my heart because it feels like the current leadership is
open to hearing the pleas of these faithful LDS women.I believe the
gospel of Jesus Christ includes equality for men and women, but some of the
traditions of the church began in a different time when women held a different
place in society. Not DOCTRINE, but TRADITIONS.And at some point,
can I be listed on the church records as a co-Head of Household with my husband
instead of being called merely "spouse"?
We are watching evolution before our eyes. Soon 50% or more mission calls will
go to women. There are more male missionaries because their missions are 25%
longer. I expect there may be women only mission districts and
perhaps female District Leaders leading these districts. Local congregations and
families will perform the baptisms. Other than baptizing, women will be called
with the same authority to serve.As Allen said above, these are not
changes in doctrine, just in (policy)or administration of the doctrine.
Under the direction of the Priesthood, women do have authority. Why are women
not ordained? I don't know, but women do things without ordination men can
not do such as redeem the dead and receive the highest covenants of the temple.
For over 150 years LDS women have given discourses and prayers in
congregations and have been "Set Apart" by the laying on of hands to
perform Church callings by authority of the Priesthood.
If all that matters is your "status", you're doing it wrong.
Re: jeanieAgree. However, my point was more about teaching these
principles and using them in todays world. I heard Elder Bednars talk today.
Clearly THAT was what I wanted to hear from an Apostle. (And without being
presumptious, an Apostle who because of age will likely be around for a long
time to come.) It was very easy to "Read Between the Lines" of Elder
Bednars talk and I'm glad he did not shy away from undoubtedly offending
some who heard it. Also I thought President Packer talking about the dangers of
too much "tolerance" was a great point, and one to ponder. Bravo to the
Lords spokespersons for speaking up so powerfully.
Take a look at the photo that accompanies the 'church leader
challenge' article. Seek the blessings, ladies, but it looks like
there's a pretty thick glass ceiling.
How will the church evolve? In a general way, towards more leadership rolls for
women as well as for men. Women holding the Priesthood is only one path that the
church could take in its evolution. Decreasing the age of women missionaries, as
well as for men missionaries, is a recent change. Another change, a very recent
change, is the creation of leadership councils in each mission and the inclusion
of women missionaries in that council. We will see other changes occur in the
church, not changes in doctrine but changes in policy.
With or without the priesthood, the most powerful people in the Church, or in
any home, are those who live up to the standards revealed in Doctrine and
Covenants 121:34-45. Allow me to risk some paraphrasing.Few men who
have priesthood authority conferred on them actually use it right. They're
more about status than service. They hypocritically hide their own sins, then
wonder why they can't make their home or church organization work right.
That's just how most men are. They need to learn from women how to be
patient, gentle, meek, kind, knowledgeable, unselfish, and loving. Persuasion
trumps commands. A proper priesthood father cares more about the comfort and
interests of his wife and children than his own, and is desperately aware of his
need for God’s help to look past his own selfish appetites.Women and children will only trust their loyalty to a father or priesthood
leader who proves by his actions that he subordinates his own interests to
I would love to see a Mormon woman as POTUS if she were politically moderate and
fiscally conservative, but within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints, I would not like to see teenage girls being required to pass the
Content aside, I find the rapid response by the Church interesting.Some
issues fester for years and get no official attention or explanation.Why
are some issues addressed immediately and with great authority while others are
"I don't imagine the Lord's kingdom is one of "social
movements" with people propagating to persuade their Lord to govern
differently."Except that by saying that, you're ignoring
most of the history of change in the church. Most famously, the Word of Wisdom
came about because of a plea from Emma Smith. The membership of the Church had
wanted the 1978 revelation long before there was a serious effort to study it
and change it. FHE came about because of grassroots efforts.
I really believe these women to be sincere. I also believe the 12 Apostles and
First Pres. to be sincere and striving daily for humility. But just because
people have sincere and good intentions doesn't make them right and
infallible. This entire piece felt contrived (wether intentional or
unintentional) and it was a masterful piece of propaganda: three women try to
convince the female viewers that there is no "power" or
"authority" problem as they take direct council/orders from a men-only
upper management. The piece seemed like it was engineered as a Jedi-mind-trick,
waving their hands infront of viewers saying "Women don't want the
priesthood, women don't need the priesthood," while the viewers watch
with their hearts, listening to the soothing and and inspirational voices and
repeat blankly "women don't want the priesthood, women don't need
the priesthood." Problem solved.
M.g.scott - you may very well be disappointed in conference. Mostly the
brethren teach principles and then *we* apply them to the world's complex
issues. Bloodhound said,"These social movement Mormons will
never be content with the church." This is true. I am not sure why these
same emoted ideas flare up every few generations and parade about as if
it's not all been said before. It is sad to me to see the next generation
of supposedly forward thinking, "evolving" LSD women believe their ideas
are new, bold and untried. They will be met with the same answers as they were
just 30 years ago. I think some women get bored and need something to keep
their blood pumping.
I hold the priesthood. I don't feel 'above' anyone for it and
there is no inequality in my filling this role, a mother filling another, and a
woman without children filling a completely different role. We are all equal in
God's eyes and I know this to be true. Faithful members of the church know
that there is no inequality in the Lord's kingdom. That is what I know of
this matter. I will share my knowledge but do not wish to dispute fine points.
Make no mistake, I can argue my beliefs, including this, 5 different ways if I
felt it was right. I have spent too much time arguing really. But for this it is
best that I simply share what I know to be true and not contend.If
you would like clarification on this or any other doctrine, you can inquire as I
once did. But if you want to ask for answers, I'm really not who you ought
to ask. If you aren't looking for answers then you'll have either made
up your own or perhaps you inquired and received an answer. In any case, I wish
What a difference in makes in the lives of poor women who are working to keep
food on the table and a roof over the heads of their family to share that burden
with an honest hardworking husband who is willing to bear the brunt of
overwhelming circumstances instead of running off to the bar, or running off to
be with another woman. Through the gospel man is taught to feel the weight of
responsibility and leadership in a healthy whole-some way that supports the
family in it's most difficult times. Watch when a father who loves his
family walks through the door, and kneels down to receive the embraces of his
young children. The world teaches men that they are burdened and hen-pecked as
committed fathers and husbands, but the gospel of Christ tells men to submit
themselves to God and be the example in their family. That's real
leadership. Men can be taught to step up and lean into the role of family
Supporting LDS ChurchMotherhood should not be considered the
equalizer when it comes to women not having the Priesthood, because any worthy
man can receive the Priesthood whereas not all women have the opportunity to be
I don't think the Church needs to give the priesthood to women to keep them
active. When I attend my ward, there are plenty of active, involved women in the
congregation. Probably a few more women than men are there each Sunday. When
I'm at the temple, women sometimes outnumber men two or three to one. So, I
think female involvement is pretty good. I believe we should be concerned about
what's going on with the men. That said, the LDS Church seems to have more
men in their pews on Sundays than many other Churches. I suspect their
responsibilities in the Priesthood make them want to be more responsible and
involved. God and the prophets know what they are doing. These social movement
Mormons will never be happy with the Church. They judge the Church by the
philosophies of the world instead of judging the philosophies of the world by
the values of the Gospel.
In all reality, women have authority over the most important asset in this
Church; to wit, the children of the covenant. They give them life, they raise
them up from babies to adulthood, hopefully in the gospel. Generally, a
righteous mother raises righteous children. The father does have the priesthood,
which is ideal in a family, but his priesthood would avail him naught if he
didn't have his wife for time and eternity. These protesters who want for
LDS women to receive the priesthood have little knowledge of the eternal purpose
of the priesthood. A man and a woman joined in marriage in the holy temple
become eternal companions; he and his wife are co-equal partners and each has
his or her life and challenges in their families and in the Church as it is
God's plan. After all, this plan was authored by God in the Garden of Eden
wherein He tasked Adam to earn his bread by the sweat of his brow and Eve to
have children. God never said that one was better than the other, God wanted
them to work together. It is the same today.
I sustain the Lord's church, His ways, His teachings. He reveals through
the prophet and I sustain the prophet.I don't imagine the
Lord's kingdom is one of "social movements" with people propagating
to persuade their Lord to govern differently. He is our Lord and governor and we
follow Him. These decisions are not ours to make. Pondering is something in our
nature that we inherited from our Heavenly Parents. However, expressing "I
wish it were differently" is something we should carefully consider before
we voice in front of others who ponder and struggle with issues. I believe we
can best benefit from focusing on the Savior in our daily doings while pondering
sacred things in private.The LDS Women Leaders are absolutely
correct in that these women want the blessings. This is a good desire. Any woman
pondering such things ought to focus on such blessings and how they can bring
them into their lives. I only hope that any 'movement' will lead to
bettering of lives and not disputes.Women have motherhood and child
bearing responsibilities.Men have fatherhood and priesthood
responsibilities.I know there is wisdom and purpose in this design.
I loved the line about how equality doesn't always mean sameness. We have
equal value in the church and home. I've been an organist nearly all my
life, and I value my calling as much as anyone in the church and I devote hours
each week to practicing and improving my skill, so that I can provide a better
spiritual experience in meetings through my music. I think some of the most
inspired women I know, are those who choose the music each week for sacrament
meeting. That is a calling I value as much as any calling in the church.
I believe you see it any way you choose! Their point in my eyes is that their
opinions are are highly regarded and respected because they were called by God
to preside over their organizations! I believe all callings have God's
hand in them! The test is how you accept them and how you regard them! I am
sad that you feel otherwise!
klangtonI am aware of the definition, I was responding to your
comment. How will this issue evolve?
Evolve is an English word with various synonyms: develop, change, grow,
progress, advance, go forward, etc.
Quote from article: "I think that if people could sit in those councils and
realize how into the details our brethren are, how aware they are of
individuals, of issues, of trends, of things that are taking place that really
affect families......."In the last couple of years or so, this
country has moved toward many "trends" and "issues" that are far
from what would be considered acceptable to LDS principles. I will be watching
closely this weekend at General Conference to see if the brethren are going to
address any of these issues and advise how we as LDS should respond to them.
The world is changing so rapidly and affecting us so dramatically that the
typical Conference talk that tells us about the young boy Joseph Smith ect. is
not going to cut it. We need leadership and answers to many of the vexing
questions of the day. I hope some of the General Authorities who speak to the
Church have been so inspired to give us such.
I think that the male leaders of the LDS Church (at least those in the leading
councils of the Church) really do have a firm grasp of how to incorporate women
into the Church leadership. It never has been, and never should be, about what
title a woman holds; the issue is mutual participation. Mutual participation at
all levels (as has been exemplified in the article above, viz. the missionary
decision) is the goal. In the LDS Church, you take what there is to offer (and
there is a lot), and you leave behind all the petty wranglings for titles and
authority to other populaces. The Church is not built on the backs of men; the
Church is not built on the backs of women; the Church is built on the backs of
those who do what they are called to do and further the work. Gender never
limits the amount of work you can do in the Church.
The Rank and File female members of the LDS Church share a diversity of opinions
on the issue priesthood ordination of LDS women. It will be interesting to see
if the Des-News staff interviews Kate Kelly the founder of the "Ordain
Women" movement. The Salt Lake Tribune addresses this topic in their paper
today. What caught my eye in the Trib article was the issue of female member
retention. Would giving women (young and old) greater leadership
responsibilities keep them active? Thats a hard call. Fellow readers
sharing your opinions are welcome.
klangtonWhat do you mean? Do you think that the church is going to
"evolve" and let women hold the priesthood? What do you mean by your
We've lived in many different areas of the U.S. It amazes me how many
women consider being a RS President to be the highest calling in the church for
women. They actually rank callings on their level of importance in their eyes.
The lowest callings are cub leader and leading music in sacrament meeting. I
have been informed by mothers all over the U.S. that it was my responsibility as
a cub scout leader to make sure their child received their awards. They had
more important callings in other organizations. They did not have time or
interest in such a silly program. From my experience, I would say many women
are into titles and authority. In Utah it is used to promote themselves in the
employment arena. With womens lib, women are more competitive with each other.
The idea that they are loving and kind is not really the norm. Why is it so
difficult for women to even do Visiting Teaching? They pick and choose who they
will visit and not. I would give 30% to the loving and kind group.
It will be interesting to watch this issue possibly "evolve' over the
next years and decades.