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Published: Friday, April 5 2013 1:10 p.m. MDT

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troutman
Washington, UT

Why was the Office of Church Patriarch done away with? There is no scripture evidence to do away with it?

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

The office of patriarch was put in emeritus status because there were patriarchs called in all the stakes and the Patriarch of the whole Church was no longer needed. I guess it's entirely possible that another one could be called again at some point, but stake patriarchs perform that calling now.

Diligent Dave
Logan, UT

Sometime in the past decade or so, Patriarch Smith did a fireside in the Clearfield South Stake. I was very impressed with the man, his demeanor, and information he gave both about the relics he brought, as well as other things regarding Joseph and Hyrum Smith. He is a Christ-like example, IMO, to us all.

higv
Dietrich, ID

Troutman do you believe in continuing revelation? I read the CD version of Lengthen your stride and that is what President Kimball said. I also read lost legacy. Gary Smith who is next in line to be patriarch wrote it. I think he is relieved that President Kimball retired the office do to demographics of our time. Saints in a district can go to neighboring Stake Patriarch as well as people were there is no Stake Patriarch. A stake without a Patriarch probably only happens when one dies suddenly and possibly moves out. As Patriarchs are usually given nonfunctioning status and another one called if it is likely there health does not permit them to serve or move out of the stake. IN those cases health permitting they can still bless there descendants. Just as a Bishop who is your neighbor can solve your problems easier than the Prophet a Stake Patriarchs Blessings are just as valid as the one to the church.

Another question on the issue will the funeral be on lds.org or BYUTV? Maybe youtube. Nice if that is the case. Larkin usually publishes program too. Which is nice.

higv
Dietrich, ID

I don't know if I can compare another similar example. People always wanted Kings. Melchezedek who may have been Noah's son Shem according to legend but we don't know was a righteous king. Israel wanted a King as did the Jaredites thought they were warned not good idea. Nephi did not want to be King either. However there were some righteous kings in the Book of Mormon. Then there was Noah. Mosiah 1 Benjamin and Mosiah II were good kings. But Mosiah relinquished the throne as the Princes were on missions to the lamanites and didn't want kings. Nephites didn't either after Mosiah's speech. So I wonder if a similar relinquishing of Patriarch to the church could of taken place when Mosiah got rid of the Kingship. Some people were in Noah's snare and said good idea. Different offices but wonder if similarity there.

FT1/SS
Virginia Beach, VA

As a returning member of the church this past year, I'll have to admit I had no idea who he was with the church. I do remember seeing a photo of him with President Monson at his last birthday. Enjoyed reading his legacy.

David Tevita Maka Stone
Cedar City, UT

Eldred Gee Smith gave me a wonderful patriarchal blessing Oct. 3, 1958 when my dad was set apart as President of the Tongan Mission by President David O. McKay and mom by President J. Reuben Clark.

william e. kettley
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Submitted a few minutes ago.

William Kettley

dsmith30
Provo, UT

I am a descendent of Hyrum Smith, Eldred's brother and have loved spending time with Uncle Eldred over the years. I, too, received an incredible patriarchal blessing from this sweet, spiritual giant. Although I don't consider myself an expert, I would share, according to my understanding. As the dispensation of the fullness of times, it was required that all things that have existed in the Church of Jesus Christ be restored. In biblical times, the patriarchal prophets like Abraham and Noah held the keys to their dispensation because of lineage. In later times, prophets were called and held similar keys. It was necessary both types of offices be restored, but they don't need to both exist if they hold the same keys. Thus, as the church grew and it became impractical for one patriarch to provide that service to the whole church, the patriarchs fell under the supervision of area authorities when that office was originated and the office of general patriarch became emeritus. Still, as mentioned in the article, Uncle Eldred continued to give blessings, serve from his office each day, and contribute as a general authority. We love you Uncle Eldred!

MoJules
Florissant, MO

Some interesting comments. About two years ago, I obtained all the patriarchal blessings of my deceased ancestors. You can request these from the church, four at a time, you do need to have a membership number and to prove that they were in your line. There is a patriarchal blessing department. This has been a treasure to have these. Also, if you have lost your blessing or desire another copy, you can request that also.

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