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Published: Thursday, April 4 2013 1:00 p.m. MDT

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SCfan
clearfield, UT

@ Baccus0902

Gee, it's sure sad to hear you think that the two major political parties in this great country are both "evil". Maybe you should try somewhere else to live.

wear2manyhatz
Holladay, UT

I am a proud LDS Democrat. I was a Democrat LONG before I joined the LDS Church. While some of the attitudes of some of the members do not coincide with my values and principles, it's important to remember that the Church was organized in a Socialist manner! Distinctly Democrat!

As to questions such as women's rights; gay rights, etc...the LDS Church has the very best answer...

AGENCY!

I try to change the world by following Jesus' example. If all of us did, there would be no need for government intervention.

Can't have it both ways, Republican friends...

JRJ
Pocatello, ID

I saw an interesting comment on the back of a car some years ago..."A GOOD Catholic cannot also be a GOOD Democrat" It struck me pretty forcibly as I think a GOOD Latter-day Saint also cannot be a GOOD Democrat for the exact same reason - the acceptance of abortion, socialized medicine, dependence on government, and gay marriage. The Lord has not told us to judge anyone, but to make a righteous judgment of ideas. I can see no bridge between the things I have listed and our pathway to heaven. How can you stand and defend the murders of 56,000,000 little children. And if you're going to ream me out about this, I will already admit the line between Demos and Republicans is very thin. It's time for us to look into our own lives and find the truth. If a politicians mouth is moving, he/she is probably lying. We are caught in the midst of evil.

BYU Alum
Cedar Hills, UT

A life-long family of Democrats, we have all dumped the party for "Unaffiliated". The tail end of the bell curve has taken over the party. We are not socialists, never have been, and never will be. The present Democratic power structure and policies are damaging to the country.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

I visited the ward I grew up in Logan. Someone attacked Obama in Sunday School. I did not vote for Obamaa, however I felt compelled to defend him. Big mistake. I thought some guy was coming across the room and assault me. In the singles ward I attend a lady brought up the petition to succeed. I said no way and she called Obama a Marxist. The concern I have is that many in the church have become uncivil. I ought to be able to attend church , support Democrats if I want to and feel safe. Right now I don't. Politics has become toxic. Many view Republicans as being anti-Obma and not stand for anything. That is one reason Mitt lost. Not all Dems support abortion, gay marriage or a socialist welfare state. I am not Dem, more of a moderate republican. Talk radio has to much influence on people. Start thinking for yourself and taking everything Beck and others say as gospel.

fangflyer
LAKE WALES, FL

To state that one is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and also a Democrat is to be a total hypocrite! To my limited knowledge, there is not one issue that the Democratic Party supports that is compliant with policies and standards found in The LDS Church. I imagine that in the population of The Book of Mormon, there were Gadiations who claimed to be members of the Church at that time.

A1994
Centerville, UT

I don't love the GOP, but I can't understand why these people believe the Democratic party has anything to offer a member of the church. Here are just a few contradictions that I see:

Mormons believe in God. The Democrats had to vote THREE times at their convention to include 'God' in their platform. And even then there was still doubt in the convention.

Mormons believe in staying out of debt. The nation is $16 Trillion in debt and the Democrats want to spend even more.

Mormons believe in the law of the harvest, you reap what you sow. The Democrats believe in redistribution of wealth.

Mormons believe in supporting the poor by voluntary donations to a well-run welfare program. Democrats believe in supporting the poor by confiscating tax dollars and sending them to a horribly run, monstrous federal bureaucracy.

The National Democratic party is an irreparably damaged brand for Mormons. I like Jim Matheson, but I don't like his friends. Please tell me how I would possibly reconcile this gap. I don't think it can be done.

Starbug
Alpine, UT

Anyone who genuinely wants to know how an LDS individual can be a Democrat, or a Liberal can go to a number of face book groups that are out there and find out. There are many LDS people who identify as Liberal and Democrat that you will find are more than willing to have a civil discussion where they will share with you why and how. I've met many and they are not only friendly they are quite well educated, well educated in general as well as in Church doctrine. IF you just want a fight, and to try to turn them away from their chosen political field then don't go there. But if you really wonder and just want to see the other side of the coin then that is a great place. In fact there are Republicans in some of those groups that just chose to support the President for re election, they aren't even Democrats. There are current General Authorities and past that are Democrats, so please don't ever say that you can't be a faithful member and be both, it is possible and many of us are!

namfan
Layton, UT

Last election I decided to abandon talking heads and to read each party platform. I went into this with an open mind. I wanted to see for myself if I could be a Democrat.

I disagreed with almost every major tenet of the Democratic party platform.

ATwin
RIVERSIDE, CA

as a 30 year government official I can attest to the massive fraud and waste in government. I have earnestly tried to be a good steward with the $100 million budget that I oversee...sadly most ALL of the politicians I have worked with are simply obsessed with power and taking care of their friends. it is not about helping or serving the public good. it is time for good people to get involved or we will continue to be ruled by selfish fools.

JayTee
Sandy, UT

The Democratic platform is becoming increasingly non-freedom of choice. They're pro-choice on only one thing: abortion. When it comes to energy, vehicles, light bulbs, toilets, guns, schools, etc., etc., they're definitely against any rights of the individual to choose. Their platform is basically, "We'll figure out what's best for you, and then we'll tell you what to do." It doesn't take a particularly observant person to see this. Yet they claim to be aligned with the principles of Christianity? Better go back and read the scriptures again.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:JayTee

Democrats believe we--as all Americans, citizens of the world, should take care to preserve and protect the earth. One would think that God believing Republicans would also think it important to preserve and protect the earth, hence the focus on energy conservation. CONSERVatives no?

Democrats are not pro-abortion.

The Democratic 2012 platform states:

"Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor, and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way. We also recognize that health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions. We strongly and unequivocally support a woman's decision to have a child by providing affordable health care and ensuring the availability of and access to programs that help women during pregnancy and after the birth of a child, including caring adoption programs."

SCfan
clearfield, UT

@ 2 many hats

Agency can be taken away in more than one way. People get enslaved with too much government assistance giving them everything to live. That takes away peoples ambition to achieve and accomplish something in life. They become enslaved to the governments welfare state. The LDS Church knows this and has known it for a long time. That's why the LDS Church welfare program always expects something in return for assistance. The government programs only ask for the vote.

Lilljemalm
Gilbert, AZ

Though the Democratic party, especially on the national level, supports things contrary to LDS teachings, I have found that the Republican party to be equally as guilty. Outside of the LDS corridor of the mountain west, the tea party is very anti-mormon, even more so than the far left. And as for taxes, it's time to raise them on everyone. The bill has come due and we have to pay the debt off; raising taxes is required. To insist on not raising them is dishonest - we have to pay our bills.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

@alt134

Thanks for informing me that only 9% of my fellow Mormons are liberal. I was beginning to worry that a trend was beginning.

doingmybest
upland, CA

I've been a lifelong democrat and a faithful member of the church since I was a teenager...served a mission, married in the temple, all my children have served missions...I have never found it hard to be an active democrat and a member of the church...I think the democratic party has more things in common with the teachings of Christ than what the republicans preach and practice...Yes, I don't agree with some of the platform of the democrats but I find even more objectionable behavior and intolerance in the republican party.
Count me as LDS and a Democrat!

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Why is it all or nothing?

Cant one be fiscally conservative and socially moderate?

Cant a good Republican think that the Iraq war was a huge mistake without being blackballed by the party?

Cant someone believe that we need smaller government but that universal background checks are reasonable? Cant one believe that we need to cut spending while insuring that the poorest Americans have food and health care?

I want two strong, reasonable political parties that act in good faith to enact legislation that is best for all.

We need the parties to provide a check and balance to the extremes of the other party.

There was a time when peoples party affiliation was driven by their ideology. More and more, peoples ideology is driven by their party.

People have become so enamored with their party that they begin to accept every party ideology.

I see good and bad in both parties. And I believe that the country is worse off when one party has complete control.

I find that these ideas get me branded as a liberal.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

@A1994

"Mormons believe in God. The Democrats had to vote THREE times at their convention to include 'God' in their platform."

Cant one believe in God without having God in the party platform? There are plenty of people who
believe that religion and government should be separated. Why does that make them bad?

"Mormons believe in staying out of debt. The nation is $16 Trillion in debt and the Democrats want to spend even more."

Hate to break it to you but Republicans have added significant amounts to our debt. Maybe more, or maybe less, but you would be hard pressed to show a huge disparity.

"Mormons believe in the law of the harvest, you reap what you sow. The Democrats believe in redistribution of wealth."

A good Fox news talking point but the GOP is just as apt to "redistribute the wealth"

"Mormons believe in supporting the poor by voluntary donations to a well-run welfare program. "

And that may work somewhat in utah. But I can assure you that voluntary donations do not cover everyone.

If you take the blinders off, you will find that the parties are not that different in how they govern.

Gail Fitches
Layton, UT

Our country has been taken over evil, i.e., by bankster thieves that own and control everything. Both parties have proven to be corrupt, if you keep track on how they vote. They look out for the big coporations and banksters, and not the people. These corporations that buy off most of our politicians are destroying our country, our health, and our environment. I hope some day people realize that both parties are ruled by the same globalist, and that lobbyist from these big corporations hold the highest paying jobs within our government, both Democratic and Republican positions. I am fed up with both political parties, because they do NOT look out for what is best for the people, and they buy into technologies that are destroying our health. I may be a registered Republican, but after doing some research, they are not any more prolife when it comes to allowing our foods, medications, water, etc., to be literally poisoned with ingredients that will destroy our health. If you are prolife, you would ensure the safety and the health of the people.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Atwin

The sad truth is that Congress members spend more time fundraising than in doing their jobs. Campaign financing has gotten way out of control. The functioning of the legislature has changed dramatically over the past 20 yrs. Legislators spend very little time legislating and debating the merits of bills.

Democrats in Congress are open to changing campaign fundraising, instituting limits and more transparency. Republicans are not.

Govt waste is a problem--front and center is the Dept of Defense whose accounts are in such disarray, it can't properly account for a trillion in spending. Where is the outrage from Republicans? Democrats?

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