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Published: Tuesday, April 2 2013 8:40 p.m. MDT

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3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Naval Vet: Are you saying the Rugby team has nothing to do with the U? Are you saying they are only a club team using the U's name, logo's and mascot but have nothing to do with the University? If you are, there is something even more strange going on. Maybe instead of the Rugby team being suspended for, "violating University Policies", they were really suspended for being imposters!

Or I might suggest Naval Vet, you are being very naive.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

navelvet

LOL at your spin:

(1) Rugby is not an NCAA sport. It's a "club" sport. Therefore, Dr. Hill has nothing to do with it.

"University of Utah officials have suspended the rugby team from playing the 2013-14 season and reportedly put the program under long term probation"

So who are these "mysterious" UofU officials who suspended the Utah rugby team?

(2) As Rugby is not an NCAA sport, it's governing board is not the Pac-12. Therefore, the Pac-12 has nothing to do with it either.

Who cares whether the PAC 12 is the "governing board", ANYTHING that casts discredit on a PAC 12 institution casts discredit on the conference, whether it involves an NCAA-sanctioned sport, a club sport, or anything else associated with the university.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Naval Vet said it right.

Truth Teller
Salt Lake City, UT

Rugby is a club sport at the U of U and is administered by the Campus Recreation Dept. The administration of that department, up through its VP and the Dean of Students is carrying out a vendetta against the rugby team. Their actions need to be fully explained and compared with actions taken against other teams and athletes in similar circumstances. Why are club sports and their athletes treated differently than scholarship athletes and teams under the administration of the athletic department? Clearly a case of discrimination. The true story needs to be told.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

SamoanYfan:

"This has been difficult to wrapped around my Indy-WACey mind to comprehend. Thanks for laying it out so clearly because non [sic] of us Y fans knew that it was a club and not sanctioned by the NCAA."

Yes. Clearly. You're welcome.

TruBlue, toosmartforyou, EdGrady, 3grandslams, sammyg:

You're welcome to all of you too!

Real Bass
Idaho Falls, ID

Two For Flinching: who cares? You should!!!

Juggernaut
Cedar Hills, UT

We are just going to have to keep saying it until it finally sets in, RUGBY IS A CLUB SPORT AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CONFERENCE AFFILIATION. This isn't a huge black eye by any means since it is a club sport and is up to students having to pay their own expenses to join the team.

Christine B. Hedgefog
Salt Lake City, UT

NavelVet, all this "you're welcome" without giving a thanks to deductive reasoning for explaining why this, like your swimming program, casts a bad light on the U and the PAC? Not to mention the stellar basketball program and a football team whose only bowl game last year was in September.

Go ahead deductive reasoning, tell Navel Vet "you're welcome"

That's A Good One
Salt Lake City, UT

Juggernaut @ "HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CONFERENCE AFFILIATION"

Neither does your football team not qualifying for a bowl game or your basketball team fading into years of irrelevance, or your swim program in the midst of an Athletic Director sanctioned scandal cover up necessarily have anything to do with conference affiliation. But they all still make the university, AND the PAC look bad.

Go ahead and stick to your story. Spin away with Navel Vet. It still doesn't bode well that the news adds "Utah suspended" to it's headlines, regardless of what conference or club it's affiliated with. It's all "University of Utah".

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

3grandslams: "Things are imploding at the U. Chris Hill is now covering all is bases because this swim thing has him in the cross hairs. This rugby fiasco will also get swept under the rug. Maybe another BYU athlete will go after someone for throwing water ballons, that will keep reporters busy for weeks. Scandal at the U? Meh."

Post of The Year! Utah's media is just that - "Utah's" media.

sls
Columbia, MO

Utah men's soccer is also a club sport and BYU just demolished the U in soccer. This falls right in line with the Deseret First Duel where the utes negotiated high point values for sports where they are semi-competitive and low point values for the rest. In club sports, they suspend the program because it won't look good to lose to BYU.

UteNationAlum
Cottonwood Heights, UT

This post really shows the insecurity and immaturity of Cougar fans. "Little Brother" this, "Pac 10.2" that... blah, blah, blah.

What should really be said is good on you Utah for putting an end to whatever was happening with the Rugby program.

I have never understood why both sides - Utes and Cougars - attack each other when someone in a program makes a mistake. Like when Davies made a mistake and BYU basketball held him out of the NCAA tourny. Ute fans were quick to jump on that and criticize the program for the mistakes of one individual. GOOD ON YOU BYU for making a player stick to the honor code... and in this case GOOD ON YOU Utes for putting an end to whatever waas going on.

That's A Good One
Salt Lake City, UT

Except for the first sentence, good comment UteNationAlum. You should have also included "insecurity and immaturity of Ute fans. "Little Brother" this, and "WAC/INDY" that... blah, blah, blah."

Though your subsequent sentences acknowledge guilt on both sides, you pretty much discredit the whole comment with the first sentence.

Eddie
Syracuse, UT

@Two For Flinching,

I would think that the players care very much....and so much other u fans since they read the article and are commenting on it. If they didn't care, they would not read the article.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

UteNationAlum,

GREAT comment. There's a lot of silliness on this thread by both Ute fans and Cougar fans.

Props to the U of U for taking action on whatever's going on despite it being just a club sport.

sid 6.7
Holladay, UT

My son is in his Sr. Year in High School and was approached by the U of U. They asked him to come out and be part of the Wrestling Club. He has been to about 7 of the practices and I can assure you they only have two things that connect them to the school.

1. They use the name and colors.
2. And the aspire to one day be an official sanctioned sport at the U.

Other than that, they have nothing to do with the school. They have to borrow mat's from High Schools who will let them borrow them. They usually practice at a High School. They also pay for everything through fundraisers, donations or personal funds.

The Rugby team is the same way. The team could change their name and be on their way but I am sure Hill told them if they wanted to use the U name in the future that they would pull up stakes and cease operations for the year. It's easy to understand.

My question to both BYU and Utah is why aren't Rugby, Wrestling and Soccer sanctioned sports at these schools?

JayDee
West Jordan, UT

Quick to hug the PAC 12 banner when it suits you and quick to deflect any semblance of wrongdoing when it discredits the Conference of Champions, even if just by association.

Yes, we all know it is a club sport and the NCAA is not the governing body, but the university has oversight, hence the quote: "U of U officials suspended..."

Don't worry though, Commissioner Scott is too busy with a referee scandal to worry about little 'ol Utah (club sport) Rugby. You're safe.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Sid 6.7,

My question to both BYU and Utah is why aren't Rugby, Wrestling and Soccer sanctioned sports at these schools?

Because it is law that Public universities have equal sports for both men and women. As for BYU they don't have to follow this law because they are a private university, yet they choose to anyway. BYU actually used to have a good wrestling team.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Lot of haters on here (I wont pretend to know what school they cheer for as none of us have any idea). Lots of people who don't care about any sport but football and basketball, yet all of a sudden want to post crap when there is something they can use to attack others. This is of course done in order to hide their own insecurities.

sid 6.7
Holladay, UT

That helps me out jdub. It's too bad because I think both schools could benefit from all of these sports. Oh well it is what it is.

I am a Utah fan but I say good luck to all Utah schools. From Utah, BYU, USU on down to Westminster. When they do good the State of Utah does good. And I am sure we all want that.

Thanks for the insight.

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