Father, son describe 'scary' encounter with elusive gunman
That was pretty stupid to fire at that helicopter. That's gotta be a big,
fat felony. Other than that all they had on him was breaking and entering,
larceny, vandalism etc. which I certainly don't condone and he should
definitely be punished for.
happy2bhere:At close range, shotguns can be devastating. Some of the more
recent shooting tradgedy's....10 - 15 years....have been committed with a
mix of weapons,i.e.,rifles, shotguns, pistols. But the semi-automatic rifle,
incorrectly called an assault rifle by the media, politicians and pundits alike
in most cases, is the weapon they like to zero in on as being the most evil.
Certainly they are aware that the weapon of choice, almost exclusively, for the
Chicago gang bangers is the pistol. The Viginia Tech shooter used two
semi-automatic pistols, a Walther in .22 caliber and a Glock in 9mm to kill 32
and wound 17. Likewise for the wack job in the Gabby Giffords shooting, he used
a Glock to kill six and wound 13. Yet the evil, black semi-auto AR-15 style
rifle gets most of the bad press.The pols claim it has no use in civilian hands.
What hogwash that is. It is the preferred and most common rifle used in shooting
competition. It is popular with ranchers, plinkers and hunters. What's the
common denominator in most of these shootings? Most shooters fall in the 18 to
26 age group.
This guy is a poster child for the NRA. They would be proud to defend him and
his gun mentality. Give him a shower and a long sentence and have his friend
Wayne come and see him and offer NRA support.
I hope that the "MountainMan" they caught was not the guy whose posts we
read a lot here in DN.
DavidroyI'm glad you brought up the "assault rifle"
issue. The term is a loaded one. (No pun intended.) From what I can tell, the
only thing that is an actual assault gun is a machine gun, which is full
automatic and will fire bullets continously while the trigger is pulled. They
are already illegal to own for the average person. Every other rifle or gun is
a "semi" automatic requiring a trigger pull for each bullet fired. It
doesn't matter if the gun is menacingly black and looks like something
"The Terminator" would carry, or if it is painted pink with yellow polka
dots. It is the same gun and will do the same damage. Truth is, a shotgun
might be the most "assault" of any gun legally sold as it expells more
than one round per trigger pull, unless you shoot a slug round of course.
I don't see anything out of line with pacificblue's comment. If he
didn't need the gun then why did he always carry it with him? Why did he
steal and stash firearms? Also, he didn't shoot at the police on the
ground, only at the helicopter. Knapp pointed his gun but did not fire at the
Emery County sheriff and the sheriff fired one round at him. That's when
he surrendered. He is fortunate the sheriff's aim was off.
Always trust your dog's judgment. Hooray for the Lab!
pacificblue55; "all he needed to survive and pillage for six years is a
working gun." I didn't see anywhere in the article where he had
previously shot anyone. in fact in our local paper it was stated that he fired
at the helicopter and 'one' shot at the ground force. So how do you
believe that it was the 'working gun' that allowed him to pillage for
six years. Maybe, it was the fact that no one had been able to catch him.
Also, take into account that he didn't kill the two people who found him,
nor, according to the article did he even threaten them. He is a criminal, and
deserves to be prosecuted, but your comment was out of line.
Shooting at a police helicopter-----now that's real smart, isn't it?
....." he had an assault rifle".. Seems as if almost everyone has fallen
into this trap of calling any firearm (rifle) that "resembles" a
military rifle an assault rifle. I hear it all the time on TV coming from
liberals and conservatives alike. Being black does not qualify as an assault
rifle. Having the same physical shape and outline as a military rifle does not
make it an assault rifle. I wish people would take the time to educate
themselves as to what an assualt rifle is before throwing around the term so
loosely. Politicians like to use the term and the general public,at least those
that are ignorant about firearms, believe that's what they are. Politicians
call for assault weapons to be banned. Well, the simple truth is
"assault" rifles have been banned since 1934.Civilian ownership of
assault rifles or any other full-automatic firearm is tightly regulated by the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives under the National Firearms
Act of 1934. Why don't the politicians recognize this fact? Could it be
that it doesn't suit their agenda?
I'm afraid I agree with Brahmabull--a true mountain man would be ashamed to
not be able to survive off the land. Anything else he needed he would trade for,
not steal and destroy property. This guy is a mountain man wannabe, not the real
Midwest mom.Freedom was gained with guns. Please make plans to move to
If he were a monster, he would have killed the two he encountered.
Finally, we've found a true, pure conservative republican. This guy has
never sold out and cut deals with democrats. I'm so tired of the RINOZZ!
Guns and freedom. This man could be a poster child for the NRA.
SIGH.... Think of the millions of taxpayers' dollars spent/to-be-spent to
track down, capture, provide a fair trial for, incarcerate (presuming he's
found guilty 8-) and attempt to rehabilitate this ONE stinkin' guy!!I'm afraid "The Mountain Burglar" (I refuse to call him a
"Man") is in for one gigantic case of "cabin" fever now!!! ;^)
all he needed to survive and pillage for six years is a working gun.
I love these types of stories. Interesting.
I hope he gets a long sentence of solitary confinement. He's a scary dude!
Claude Dallas, Troy James Knapp, George Hayduke. Some folks admire 'em
while others despise them. I'm glad that nobody was seriously injured or
killed in the end game. Bramabull stated, "I call him reckless and
irrespionsible(sp)", yet it took authorities seven years to capture Knapp!
Let's be reasonable said, "he is not going to stop". I beg to
differ. The felonies he will be charged with will keep him pretty busy for the
several years. I don't think there is a judge in the land that will allow
him to get bailed out. Glad they caught the guy.
Hayduke lives, all right--but he's going to the cooler for a stretch...
there is nothing to admire in this crook!.....he is just another homeless bum
who was brazen enough to break into cabins, steal and move on to the next
Lucky no one was killed, it could have resulted in that sooner or later.
Wild?? You call him wild, I call him reckless and irrespionsible. If he were in
the woods actually living off of the land, I could understand that. Be he was
too weak to survive on his own so he leached off of the cabin owners. That is
not wild, that is criminal. And not only did he steal, he vandalized the very
property he stole from. Nothing to be proud about there. Hope he does hard time
for the firearms and other items he stole.
There is a part of me that says we, as a human race, need a small part of us to
be wild. I know. He broke the law, he is not going to stop, the victims did
not ask for it, but Talk About a Different Drummer!!!!!
Glad they finally caught the guy.
It sure would be interesting to know the why's, of this whole story.