Comments about ‘Dick Harmon: Haws, a throwback to hard work, goes to New York’

Return to article »

Published: Friday, March 29 2013 5:05 p.m. MDT

  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Gone fishin
Murray, UT

Nice article. He is the best player in the state playing for the best team in the state. I find it ironic that after tonight BYU will be the only team in the west still playing in either the NIT or the NCAA. Can't wait for next year when Hawes will only be better and will have a terrrific back-up cast. The future of basketball in Utah is BYU.


Haws is great and I'm very happy that he is on BYU's team, but I'm pretty sure he would tell you he doesn't do this alone. BYU seriously needs other scorers on the team so all defenders can't key on just one person. It is going to be very difficult to replace Brandon Davies next year. BYU really needs to have three or more scoring threats as we've seen in the NIT games with Davies, Haws and Carlino/Zylstra.

Down under
Salt Lake City, UT

Great to see BYU doing so well. Chris B must be seeting to be the only team in the west still palying b-ball. His beloved PAC 10.2 will be watching from the sofa

LP suppporter
Lehi, Utah

Years ago I would take my sons to the church on Thursday night and early Saturday mornings to hit wiffle balls to get the boys ready for a new baseball season and there would be Tyler, Marty, and TJ shooting, and shooting and shooting and then they would shoot some more. Drill after drill. Every shot from every angle over and over. Even Marty standing on a chair forcing Tyler to come off a pick and shoot over him. I got worn out just watching. It was and still is a labor of love for Marty full of patience, while Tyler and TJ were relentless in practice. Everything good that they get from basketball they have earned. One last comment, without the support of their mother, Tiffany, this would not have happened. A truly wonderful person and supporter.

Washington, UT

Three things are ruining the game:
1. the defense is allowed so much contact, most offensive players get mugged from tipoff to final bell, if they're not built like a linebacker, they get beat up. This needs to change. Basketball is a beautiful game, but it is not football and the rules need to change.
2. nobody takes the mid-range jumper anymore (Haws does), they want to dunk it or hit the three, there's nothing in between. Most players never practice the mid-range jumper and aren't comfortable taking it--and don't.
3. TV! Yes, I know, it pays for all those games we watch. But each team has 6 timeouts per half, that's 24 timeouts per game--just by the teams. Then television has the right to call a number of timeouts. Plus, the refs call timeouts for video review and other reasons. The game is interrupted so many times, I have quit watching, it's a mess. And the coaches are to blame here too; one play, one shot, then a timeout, one more play, one more shot (or foul), and another timeout. Give each team two timeouts per half, that's more than enough.

Mission Viejo, CA

Harmon has hit the nail on the head! Way to many teams consist of a one-and-done super athlete and a few spear carriers. Or in the case of Kentucky last year, 5 one and done. NCAA title last year, a first round defeat in the NIT this year. I used to love NBA hoops, but I haven't watched a single game for ten years. Kobe Bryant typifies the NBA now. Selfish, me, me, me.

Harmon is also correct about the rough play now. That is certainly true of the WCC. Those games are brutal. Maybe because of a talent gap, but those teams do a lot of banging.

I've become hooked on Dave Rose's teams. I love the run and gun, switch around defense, and the passing! This young team is coming of age and I'm looking forward to next year.

  • 7:40 a.m. March 30, 2013
  • Like (1)
  • Top comment
American Fork, Utah

I am extremely excited for BYU in the NIT Tournament. I love the way they are sharing the ball and shooting the three point shot. The whole team is rebounding better than they ever have. They are playing the best basketball I have seen them play since Jimmer Fredette's senior year. I am glad that they are making such a strong run at the NIT Championship. I am feeling like this team is a team of destiny. Harmon needs to get his facts straight. The NIT SEMIFINALS is played on TUESDAY, April 2 not on MONDAY!.

Cedar Hills, UT

@dumprake - my love of basketball was renewed with the advent of DVR and the 30-second forward button. Not only are too many timeouts allowed, but the time being taken for foul shooting is excruciating. Guess what - every foul shot looks the same, so who needs to watch them? Hit the 30-second forward button when a foul is committed, and you'll see the last free throw and you're on with the game. An entire game takes about 1:15 for a skilled remote handler.

Salt Lake City, UT

I think that we have seen some real growth and improvement from a couple of key players which has helped make this a more rounded team during the NIT. Matt Carlino is making better decisions and not forcing things (as much). He's playing more within himself. Nate Austin has made a real difference too with an inside presence, rebounding, and passing, and the occasional jumper from the wing. Zylstra is what he always has been, a big guard who will, once in awhile, go on a scoring binge. They are fun to watch right now. Baylor presents some significant problems with talented bigs and a very special point guard.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

One thing makes me crazy about "modern" college hoops: 98% of these kids don't know how to shoot a pull-up 8-, 10-, 12- 15-foot jump shot. Tyler Haws seems to know how. The Kansas-Michigan game from last night is the perfect example. The KU kid with the ball at the end beat his man and had a short pull-up jump shot but what does he do? He trhows a wild pass to a player who was not prepared to do anything positive with the ball. Result: Michigan in, KU out.

Springville, UT

Excellent article Dick. Especially enjoyed the "Work in Progress" video. What was so interesting to me about it is that it's a wonderful metaphor for a successful life. Talent is so often wasted because work is not a priority. One of my all-time favorite athletes was Jerry Rice who during his playing days every day he was home ran 7-mile hill and that was just one of the things he did. He like Tyler has some exceptional talent, but putting the work in was and is always the key. Two advantages from the "Work in Progress." Work pays and missions make a boy a man. Everybody still loves Jimmer, but Tyler is taking his place because he's working as hard as Jimmer and served a mission. What an example for everybody.


I thought I was a lone man in the deseret not favoring the banging and shoving that goes on in the game today. It once was a game of finesse. That seems to have changed with the times. Movies no longer have stories but have lots of explosions, basketball has few plays, just finding the open 3 or the muscle up dunk. I know that's not exactly true but the nature of the game is hang and bang and not nearly as entertaining as the pick and roll or pull up and pop, or even the step towards the end line and loft a smooth hook shot as per Dave Eastis et al.


enough already...yes Tyler Haws is good. Yes he is a very fundamental basketball player. You have been writing about him since he was a junior in high school. You would think this guy is going to lead the cougars to an elite 8 or something. Its not going to happen...as much as i would like it to. I am a fan but the hype is over the top. The Lone Peak recruits from this year will be marginal college basketball players at best. Nick Emery will not be a great player. He will not be better than Haws. Mika will be more impactful than all of them but he is going to struggle big time next year in a marginal league with a below average schedule. These guys are the best Utah has to offer but until they get out of the state and really start recruiting they will just be average. Rose will continue to schedule below average teams so he can get his 22+ wins a year.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

I'd love to see Haws develop a cross-over dribble similar to Jimmer's; he could be even more effective being able to catch and shoot on the perimeter, or drive inside for a layup or short-range jumper. Regardless, he's an exciting player and this NIT is going to provide great experience for Tyler and his returning teammates for next season.

Cedar Hills, UT

@ballpark - as long as Tyler Haws plays basketball at a high level, he will be an ongoing news story of interest to Utah readers, no matter how much you whine about the continuous coverage. It's not "enough" for all local fans who expect the local paper to cover local talent and current events.

I'm also curious about any pre-season prediction you had for the Lone Peak H.S. basketball team. With their cross-country schedule against the best in the nation, I'm guessing you would have been pretty pessimistic for "the best Utah has to offer."

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments