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Published: Thursday, March 28 2013 10:35 p.m. MDT

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Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Dick Clark Aposhian

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Just like Christmas Shopping at the mall, put all packages in the trunk. Out of sight is out of mind. I'd have bolted the case to the floor of the trunk in my car. I know Clark and he's a very careful man about such things.

Nice that Scott Peck is so good at stating the incredibly obvious. A criminal might have stolen the weapon. Very good observation. Bad guys steal guns all the time. I've not met too many criminals that obtained their firearms legally. I'm glad it wasn't the toddler next door. Great job Scotty. Nice to see you are still gainfully employed.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Should he be held liable if anyone gets hurt by it?

I think he should be.

Maybe THEN he'd be more willing to lobby for gun registration and libalilty insurance.
Just like he is with all his other personal property.

paintandestroy
Richmond/Cache, UT

What's he worried about? Any law abbidding AR-15 owner knows these are just big boy toys used for recreational purposes and home/property protection- what could possibly go wrong with this scenario.

William Gronberg
Payson, UT

"I continue to handle and store firearms very safely."

I wonder if Clark had his fingers crossed when he made that assertion?

Obviously the weapon was not stored safely enough.

Ranch
Here, UT

Just love the irony.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

No, Mr. Aposhian, you did not properly store this gun as you assert. It should have been locked in a cabinet inside your home.

Contrarius
Lebanon, TN

It is so wrong for me to be laughing hysterically about this.....but I just can't help myself. Ohhhhhhhh, the irony of it all.

Do you think the lobbyist has actually learned anything from this incident?? Unfortunately, no, I bet he hasn't.

And yup, I think he SHOULD be held liable when this weapon is used in a crime. There is absolutely NO reason to be storing assault rifles in your CAR, of all places. In fact, he should probably be charged with creating an attractive nuisance, or criminal negligence, or some such. I wish.

Rigormortise
Kaysville, UT

@contrarius
Great, then when your car gets stolen and then gets into an accident you too should be held accountable.

amazondoc
USA, TN

@Rigormortise --

"Great, then when your car gets stolen and then gets into an accident you too should be held accountable."

You yourself noted the vital difference here: "accident" vs. "crime".

Guns -- ESPECIALLY something like an assault rifle -- should be stored INSIDE in locked gun safes. Out in the driveway in a car is NOT responsible storage in any way, shape, or form. As this lucky guy has just proven. (All the rest of us knew this already -- I guess he needed some extra lessons on gun safety, though.)

People are charged all the time with "creating an attractive nuisance" or "criminal negligence" for things like having a swimming pool on their property with no fence around it. And guess what -- an AR-15 can kill a heckuva lot more people, a heckuva lot quicker, than a swimming pool can.

Or my car, for that matter.

amazondoc
USA, TN

You know, the more I think of it the more I like the idea of holding gun owners legally responsible if their weapons are used in crimes.

Swimming pool owners are legally responsible if a kid gets in and drowns.

Dog owners are legally responsible if their dog gets out and bites somebody.

Neither one of these things is nearly as lethal as a gun, nor as easy to steal.

Perhaps gun owners would be more likely to store their guns responsibly if they knew they could lose big wads of cash or be charged with crimes when they fail to keep those guns safe -- just like I would be if I failed to keep a vicious dog contained.

I haven't been following the recent gun law developments -- but if any legislators have suggested this, I'm all for it!

Dektol
Powell, OH

Peck said it "raises the hair on the back of your neck" to know a criminal is in possession of the high-powered rifle."

Would it be OK if it was a low powered rifle?

3percent
savis, UT

Bring on the anti-gun fanatics.
Has it occurred to anyone that the person or persons who stole the "sport utility rifle, it's not an assault rifle" is the criminal here.
If he'd had his truck parked in the garage and they broke in and got it, someone would say "he should have had it in the house"
As far as being "chilled" or nervous about a criminal having a so called high powered assault weapon, first it has much less power than a typical deer rifle and 2nd you can look up the percentage of crimes committed with these weapons. It's almost zero.
Let's get real here, it's a cosmetic lookalike of an M4/M16, often called an "Mforgery" and just happens to be the most popular rifle in America. Demonizing these weapons and their owners is nothing but a political agenda.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It is amazing that some people are upset with a law abiding citizen who stores something in a locked metal case in a locked vehicl and demand that they should have done something more.

But they do not say a single word of condemnation against the crook who breaks into locked cars and locked metal cases in a car and steals a gun. Who is the real criminal?

And, if they are paying attention, they would also note that many times each year guns are stolen from police officer cars, even marked patrol cars. Should the cops be liable for those as well, instead of the thieves?

In fact, studies have shown that many more criminals get guns by stealing them than by buying from gun shows or dealers.

Federal law makes it a felony to steal a gun from a licensed dealer. Utah should make it an additional felony to steal a gun from any licensed gun owner (holder of any FFL, or concealed weapon permit, etc).

Hope the cops get this guy- fast!

Note that Aposhian also had several handguns stolen from checked airline baggage- while TSA focuses on groping grannies.

amazondoc
USA, TN

@3percent --

"Has it occurred to anyone that the person or persons who stole the "sport utility rifle, it's not an assault rifle" is the criminal here."

The AR-15 was first built by ArmaLite as an assault rifle for the United States armed forces, and it has been referred to in at least one declassified DoD presentation document as the "first true assault rifle". You can apply whatever euphemism you like.

@DN-Subscriber --

"It is amazing that some people are upset with a law abiding citizen..But they do not say a single word of condemnation against the crook"

We all know that the thief was a crook. There's no need to say more about him. But that doesn't let Aposhian off the hook for his part in storing that rifle irresponsibly, any more than I would be let off the hook if the meter reader left my gate open and my dog got out and bit someone.

"many times each year guns are stolen from police officer cars"

Policemen obviously need weapons in their vehicles in order to perform their jobs properly. Aposhian did not, and he certainly didn't need to leave it there overnight.

airnaut
Everett, 00

If the gun had been "registered",
We could at least possibly identify it in a pawn shop or criminal activity.

As it stands --
This responsibple gun lobbyist (who should have been more "responible") just handled his gun over to the "bad" guys.

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