What's this? Home schoolers acting like public schools? So it comes full
re: benevolus: I agree about the myth of socialization - invented by the
education establishment. after all, kids are numbers that equate to funding.
When my daughter learned that her 7 year old son was in a classroom of over 30
other 7-year olds, it changed her perspective on home schooling. There is no way
a student can learn as much in a over-crowded classroom as he can at home with a
conscientious parent and the excellent home-schooling programs available today.
It also saves the state money. My suggestion is that the state encourage
home-schooling by providing the parents a stipend of about half as much as the
school gets. With the stipend, the parent would be responsible for demonstrating
that the student is progressing satisfactorily. It's a win/win. Lower cost
to the state and better educated children.
Most parents are trying to protect their children FROM the values of many in the
children's peer group. Public schools have become a toxic catchall for all
the cultural and societal ills the children absorb through media and in their
dysfunctional neighborhoods. A high school in Chicago had 29 students shot in
one school year - 8 died. The school acknowledges that 15 different gangs claim
the school as their territory. Yet, NPR highlighted a conversation between a
concerned parent and a school administrator with the administrator trying to
lure the child into coming back to school. The mother finally says in
exasperation - "His grandmother doesn't think it's a good idea for
him to return to this school, due to the violence in the area." The school
itself had 16 security guards for only 500+ students. It makes sense that
parents are trying to shield kids from the toxic, deadly values and behavior
which have become common in the inner cities.
@Midwest Mom:"We see the home-school spelling bee wiz kids,
etc., but a poster child is not a scientific study." Did you bother to read
any of the doctoral theses or other scientific studies on the effectiveness of
homeschooling? I did, that's what helped persuade me to look in to home
schooling."Accountability is the problem." And our
government schools are accountable? Not according to the many complaints I hear
from my public schooling friends."...the majority are behind
academically, some have been abused" No, from my personal acquaintance with
dozens of homeschooling families, the majority are ahead academically. Also,
some parents start homeschooling to protect their children from the bullying and
abuse their children receive at school, that officials are powerless or
incompetent to prevent."Parents are a child's most
important teachers, but if they take on schooling, they should be required to
prove that they're doing the job." Public teachers' unions have
successfully resisted having to provide precisely this kind of proof. And
it's nearly impossibly to fire the bad ones.Thanks for trying
to help that YW get into college. That's the spirit of homeschool co-ops,
helping each other!
We home schooled our six children for nine years. Our only regret is that we
actually had them in the government schools for as long as we did. Fortunately,
we realized how destructive that environment was to them and pulled them out.
We discovered that there was a direct relationship between how long
they spent in home schooling and how well they did in college. Our four kids
that spent the most time home schooling excelled in college, each earning
academic scholarships. And our baby, who was home schooled the longest, just
finished his first year of college with a 3.94 GPA. Two that have finished
college graduated with GPA's greater than 3.9. Not bad.I will
admit that it is possible to become well educated in spite of the government
school environment if you choose to send your kids there. But the
"socialization" that is so highly touted regarding government schools is
the exact reason we pulled our kids out. Ask your neighborhood kids about the
things going on in the government schools and you will be shocked with the
depravity. If you can, get your kids out!!!
Home schooling has worked well for our nine children. We have done the co-op
thing at times, but the most powerful thing we have associated with is the
Commonwealth School movement. Since we started working with that, our children
have dramatically increased their knowledge and ability in things such as
acting, science, debate, critical thinking, public speaking, statesmanship and a
number of other skills. We only meet with the other families once a week and
each family is asked to participate in the instruction and management. You can
learn about it by googling LEMI (Leadership Education Mentoring Institute). The
principles of education and personal growth are amazing. It would be a great
topic for another article.
So true, Benevolus! With such an active homeschool community here along the
Wasatch front, I found this last year that I had to cut back on our
"socialization" so that we had time to actually get something academic
After homeschooling our children I've found "socialization" is a
non-issue, only brought up by people who know nothing about homeschooling.
"Concerns about the academic viability of homeschooling have faded"
Really? Not for me. We see the home-school spelling bee wiz kids, etc., but a
poster child is not a scientific study.I have a beef with
homeschooling for several reasons. As a YW leader, I worked to help a
home-schooled girl get into college, but her mother could not, or would not,
produce a transcript of what she had been taught. This girl and her siblings
were very bright, but home school turned out to be "un-school" and these
kids were at the mercy of their parents to prove that they had any education at
all. Isn't accountability the real problem? Children are not
property. They have a right to an education. The home-school movement would do
well to out the bad actors, but they don't ... ever. I know of only a few
families that have done this well -- the majority are behind academically, some
have been abused, and many are underemployed and not seeking higher education.
Parents are a child's most important teachers, but if they take on
schooling, they should be required to prove that they're doing the job.
Home schooling can go either way, just as public education. For every success
there will be a failure. True for both! I've seen kids succeed and fail
in public schools, private schools, and home school settings. The knock on home
school is the social aspects. My personal perception of the kids I know
who've been homeschooled is that they are socially 'odd'.However there is no easy answer with the vast diversity of kids today.
To argue that one setting is better than another "across the board" if
foolish! What works for one child/student will not necessarily work for
another. Re Sasha: My children have all attended public schools.
Some of those schools are rated higher than others, yet all my kids have been
successful with their gpa's, ap classes, college scholarships, etc... So
any setting can work. Glad your's is working for you and your children.
We have eight children and are home schooling with great results. Our children
learn to read by 6 on average, some as early as 4. Our 14-year-old son felt
confident enough to take 4 AP tests this year and we are awaiting results. You
can take AP tests without being enrolled in an AP class - just ask a local high
school. Even if they are not teaching the course, they can still order the test
- they do not grade it, only proctor. It costs $89 per test. 5 on Calculus BC
takes care of Math 112 and 113 at BYU, so for $89 this is a great deal. To get
into BYU you do not need a high school diploma - just score high on the ACT, and
seal the deal by a decent AP test performance.For those who have a
lot of children and go to church the social aspect is no big deal. You have lots
of church youth activities, and plenty of interaction with siblings.
A homeschool co-op is a group of homeschool students or whole families who get
together on a regular basis to study one or more subjects as a group. Students
are frequently divided by age-group, depending on the type of activity.