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Published: Tuesday, March 26 2013 4:55 p.m. MDT

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Meadow Lark Mark
IDAHO FALLS, ID

Great job Mr. Rotela!!!!!

pumpkin
Huntington, Utah

it takes guts to stand up to abusive authority. Thank You young man.

I Bleed Blue
Las Vegas, NV

Wow, what a fine institution of learning. Religious persecution alive and well.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

I am LDS and a disciple of Jesus Christ. While I applaud the student for not stoping on the paper, I am failing to see how he is being punished. He has not been suspended nor his grade in the class impacted. Keep going to the class and show the others you say what you mean and mean what you say. I do not see in the story he was barred, only asked not to go. Keep going to class until a resolution is at hand. If he is suspended or expelled, by all means get legal representation.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

Perhaps I missed it, but how exactly was this student punished?

No doubt the instructor had a point that he was trying to make by this activity. Did the author of the article omit the educational point on purpose, or was it simply an oversight? Taking the very narrow description of "stomping on the name Jesus" completely out of context seems lazy, at least, and deliberately misleading at worst.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Good job, Ryan Rotela. It takes guts to stand up against a majority, and stand up for your beliefs.

Cow pies to the istructor, who apparently didn't have enough of a clue to realize how offensive an exercise like that could be. I hope the instructor learned something from this.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

He doesn't need to be punished. This headline is wrong.
What it should of read was, teacher fired for being out to lunch.
I would like go write something more negative, but it would get flagged

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt & southmtnman

How was he punished?

Direct quote from the story: "and was suspended by the university after reporting the incident to the instructor’s supervisor, CBS News reported on March 21."

I suspect suspention qualifies as punishemnt

EducateMe
SANDY, UT

He should sue the university for 100 million dollars, just for kicks and giggles just to watch them crumble.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Of course the writer of this article couldn't be bothered to write the point of the exercise as stated in the textbook which is to note how there are people who will hesitate to follow through with it and what symbols end up representing.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

He was initially told that he was suspended by the University. Only after CBS did their reeport did they retract that and restore him to class. This article leaves out that the instructor is the county Democratic party chairman and that he has issues with religion as reported in the CBS local story. The class demonstration from the manual was to have students place the paper on the floor and ask students to step on it (not stomp) and when some of the students hesitate the instructor is supposed to ask why some people hesitate. He is then supposed to explain the power of symbols to people. No one was supposed to be forced to do it and there was apparently no attempt to force him or threaten his grades. He didn't like the method used by the instuctor and complained to the department head and that was when he was suspended and the school initally supported the instructor. At least that is how I read the original story yesterday. Stupid example for a university level class about symbols anyway.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

As is often expressed by those who comment on these boards to those who have views that they disagree with, if you don't like the class/university go somewhere else! No one is forcing this young man to attend that class or that university. Don't all you conservatives believe, as you've been posting numerous times over the on the same-sex marriage articles today, that a minority shouldn't deliberately go into a place where s/he is uncomfortable simply to try to change attitudes of the majority? The duplicity really is astounding.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

I'm going to go ahead and guess that the actual situation is much more complicated. I'm also having a hard time buying that he started with "with all due respect to your authority..." etc. This all sounds like a whitewashed story by the student and the university is not going to be able to say anything about what he did because of student privacy laws. According to other news sources, the exercise was completely optional, and the only confrontation was initiated by the student. In fact, the exercise apparently assumes students won't step on Jesus: "Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture." Again, everything sounds outlandish when you are only getting one side of the story.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Interesting that the university didn't care much about their students until suddenly the media got a hold of the story, then suddenly they had a reversal of thought.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Kinda blows my mind. To say that Jesus doesn't mater, is like saying that no one does. That student lone money has rely gone to their head, as the value of the dollar is worth less and less every day.

BYR
Woods Cross, UT

Rotella was punished. "The fourth paragraph states: Rotela, a devout member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, refused to complete the exercise and was SUSPENDED by the university after reporting the incident to the instructor’s supervisor, CBS News reported on March 21" (caps mine). He was punished and probably reinstated. I wonder what happened to the professor. Was she punished, reprimanded?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:JohnJJHS,southmtman

from the DN article:
"Rotela, a devout member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, refused to complete the exercise and was suspended by the university after reporting the incident to the instructor’s supervisor, CBS News reported on March 21."

I would say a suspension is punishment. Which seems way overboard and inappropriate.

However,
If the student simply refused what did the instructor do? Did he punish the student in any way?
I see nothing wrong with the student refusing to do it and expressing why he wouldn't do it to the teacher. The teacher should respect the student's refusal to do it. The teacher doesn't need to apologize however, unless he punished the student for not doing it.

What was the point of the exercise? What point was the teacher trying to make?
It would be nice to hear more of the story.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "No one is forcing this young man to attend that class or that university."

But, why should he be forced out of a university he and his parents' tax monies pay for?

roberto
Moses Lake, WA

I really liked the university's apology. It holds dear its core values... What core values. It also says they welcome all religions...That's an odd way to welcome someone who happens to be christian. The apology was hollow at best.

DanO
Mission Viejo, CA

I was trying to figure out why a teacher would ask a student to do this, so I researched past this article. What's weird here is the whole point of the lesson was to discuss when inevitably a student refuses to step on the name. We've only heard the student's statement and a the University saying they won't allow the particular activity again. I'm wondering if the student stormed out or refused to participate in the discussion.

“Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper,” the synopsis said. “Most will hesitate. Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”

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