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Published: Thursday, March 21 2013 8:35 p.m. MDT

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Washington, UT

And what of all that praise this paper was heaping on the MWC with 5 entries? SDSU, gone! UNLV, gone! New Mexico, gone! Boise will be gone! Only Colorado STate comes out a winner.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Pretty funny that so many Cougar fans were talking smack that the mighty WCC and MWC were so great in comparison with the Pac-12 ... between having a number 1 seed in the tourney (Gonzaga) and the MWC having 5 teams with much overall better tourney seeds than the Pac-12. Several of these same people made silly predictions that the Pac-12 would go 0-5 or 1-4 in their first round games.
Yet here we are after day one and Gonzaga was nearly the first ever #1 seed to lose their first game, Saint Mary's is gone, and the better seeded MWC is 1-3 so far. Meanwhile the terrible Pac-12 has gone 3-0 despite getting the raw end of the seedings.
I'd say it's time to end the comparisons between these three conferences ... there is no comparison, the Pac-12 is clearly better than the MWC and far better than the WCC. End of story.

West Jordan, UT

dumprake, might want to check your bracket . . . SDSU plays tomorrow. Boise lost their play-in game.

That being said, Pac12 teams are 3 - 0. How about that?

provo, UT

You're facts confuse Utah County's fiction... I am getting really tired of you Utah fans bringing up facts...HAHA at least we have John Stockton's son playing for our CYO national title... ask about CYO!?

Meadow Lark Mark

The story was about Gongzaga and Southern. Can't we just leave out BYU and Utah and whatever other conferences for just a minute? I do agree that talk is so cheap and worthless. The reality is just whoever wins the games.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

PAC12: 3-for-3
WCC: awful-for-2

Y fans would be best to keep their mouths shut - it's not wise to insult your superiors.

Santaquin, UT

BYU fans are not doing the talking here. All I see are five comments from Ute fans who are left to talk about their conference because their team is done for the year.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I love my Pac 12 memberhsip and all Pac 12 teams!

Don't be surprised to see a Pac 12 team in the final 4, with how Oregon and Arizona looked yesterday.

Pac 12 for life!

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

I see that my little sister is crowing about her "PAC 10.2 membership" again.

It's sad when we have to live in the reflected light of our accomplished associates, because we're incapable of producing any light of our own.

Fun games yesterday. Maybe someday, we'll be good enough to actually be participants, rather than hosts and spectators.

Go ZAGs!

But seriously folks!
Salt Lake City, UT

Simply put; Gonzaga did not look like a #1 team. There will be no PAc10 teams in the final four nor the elite eight. As we have seen in tourney play, bad teams (PAC 10) can play well for a game or two and then drop out. The PAC may have won a few lucky games last night but the run will be over next week. Mark it down.

Cottonwood Heights, UT


"BYU fans are not doing the talking here. All I see are five comments from Ute fans..."

And there's a reason for that Eliot. BYU fans already did their talking, which is exactly why they're noticeably quiet today. Not a surprise though, this is how it usually goes.

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

Looking back a year:

Syracuse escaped UNC-Asheville 72-65 on Thursday, avoiding being the first #1 seed to lose to a #16 seed in the NCAA men's basketball tournament.

But it wasn't pretty -- and it wasn't without controversy at the end.

The Orange benefited from two questionable calls late in the game.

After pulling out a controversial win against the #16 seed, the Orange then dispatched #8 seed Kansas State and #4 seed Wisconsin, before losing to #2 seed Ohio State in the Elite Eight 70-77.

It's funny how quickly the haters want to write Gonzaga off for only winning 68-62 in a game in which the Zags never trailed after the 8:28 mark of the first half.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Just the FAX

"It's funny how quickly the haters want to write Gonzaga off..."

Don't point the finger at "the haters", it's pretty much the entire country at this point. Just turn on ESPN.

Lincoln Park, IL

@Just the FAX

Thanks for adding a little perspective to the shrill voices of the haters.

Gonzaga isn't the first, and certainly won't be the last, high seed to struggle against a much lower seed. In the end, however, it doesn't matter whether you win by 50 or by 1, the most important thing is to win and advance.

Gonzaga's next opponent, Wichita, lost to Creighton TWICE in March; Creighton lost to Saint Mary's in late March; and Gonzaga easily handled Saint Mary's THREE times.

In other words, fans who are eagerly trying to write Gonzaga off, may be bitterly disappointed.

Lincoln Park, IL


"Don't point the finger at "the haters", it's pretty much the entire country at this point. Just turn on ESPN."

Whether you call them "haters" or "naysayers," they're always eager to write off any "mid-major" that struggles. The power conference-centric media may occasionally embrace a feel-good story of an underdog Butler "over-achieving", but bitterly refuses to fully accept as legitimate any team outside of the traditional "power" conferences.

Arlington, VA

Ironically, struggling to beat Southern have been the best thing that could have happened to Gonzaga this tournament. The Zags are used to being considered nothing but a decent team from a small conference. Being one of the big boy favorites is not part of their MO. They're much more comfortable being the underdogs. With the rest of the country now questioning their right to even be a #1 seed, the Zags are back in their comfort zone of proving the naysayers wrong.

It's funny how quickly the kids on the hill have jumped on the hating bandwagon to help themselves feel better about another failed season.

Go Zags!

Santaquin, UT

Perhaps you're right motormouth, but the real mystery here is why Ute fans are doing any talking at all given the current idle status of their team. May I suggest you gently turn the key in a counterclockwise direction and gracefully remove it from the ignition.

Sandy, UT


As we saw last year with Syracuse, Gonzaga is hardly unique as a #1 seed struggling against a #16 seed.

There have been two one-point wins by #1 seeds over #16 seeds -- Georgetown over Princeton and Oklahoma over East Tennessee State, both in 1989. And, there was one two-point game -- Purdue over Western Carolina in 1996 -- and one that went overtime -- Michigan State 75-71 over Murray State in 1990.

Other #1's have trailed #16's at halftime, the last Kansas, which was behind by two points before going on to beat Holy Cross 70-59 in 2002.

It happens, even to the blue bloods of college basketball. So why is it such a big deal for Gonzaga?

New Mexico actually losing to a team that had NEVER won an NCAA tournament game is a much bigger deal.

Cottonwood Heights, UT


"Perhaps you're right motormouth, but the real mystery here is why Ute fans are doing any talking at all given the current idle status of their team."

Hilarious. Tell me where anything that's been said by me or other Ute fans on this topic has anything to do with Utah or BYU? Do you need me to admit Utah was terrible this year and the last several? Okay, I admit it. Good now? By the way, how many NCAA tourney teams did the Y beat this year? I know Utah beat at least four - two of which already have tourney wins. I think it's pretty clear that BYU isn't much, if any, better than Utah right now.
Bottom line is this, Ute fans on this thread are only responding to the ridiculous comments that were made by BYU fans when talking conference smack before the tourney began. For whatever reason, people like yourself can't handle the fact that people like myself are calling those people out.
So quit assuming we're haters. I don't hate Gonzaga or the WCC for that matter - this has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Palo Alto, CA

"Tell me where anything that's been said by me or other Ute fans on this topic has anything to do with Utah or BYU?"

Dumb question, but here's the very obvious answer.

Utah is in the PAC 10.2.

Obviously, since the Utes stunk up the regular season so badly that they didn't even qualify for the lowest of the post season tournaments, U are forced to live vicariously through the accomplishments of your conference associates.

Anything to help U feel better about that train wreck on the hill.

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