You can read all kinds of things into that question.
I think this is great regardless of your political or religious views. I love
pointing out the women speakers in Confernce to both my sons and daughters.
With all the things that are going on in the world today, good and bad, what is
so important about women praying in General Conference? I can pray personally,
with my husband, with my family, in Sunday School, Relief Society, Sacrament
Meeting, Stake Conference and several other meeting if asked. That is more than
enough. If people have enough time on their hand to worry about this, they need
to volunteer in a Nursing Home, deliver Meals on Wheels or any other of the many
programs to really help society.
No problem with a woman praying if that is what is decided.Leave it
up to the sltrib to make this their number one story.
So, I don't get the big deal, really. Women give sermons in GC. Plenty of
people have never prayed in conference...women or men. Looks like they just get
around to having various groups pray every so often. For a while General
Authorities. For another while 70. For another little while returned Mission
Presidents. Now, maybe some women.
So…what exactly? This doesn't really mean anything. Anybody can offer
a prayer. Hardly groundbreaking…
You've got to pray just to make it today,
I have no problem with women praying in general conference or any where. Or
wearing pants to church. What does bother me is all this attention to minutia,
that distracts us from the core of the gospel, the atonement of the Savior. Are
we so concerned about the mechanics of our worship that we forget why we
This is a non story. Come on.
Get a grip people! I agree there is so much going on in the world and this is
what we are obsessing about? I watch conference all the time and it never
occured to me that a woman had not said a public prayer. Certainly, they are
speaking and are seen all the time. Gee, how about if we form a group to push
for plants for women. Oh, yes, that's already been done. Glad I'm so
busy with important things!
A different version of the question could be, is it necessary that a priesthood
holder always offer the invocation and benediction?
Why not! Looks to me like SLTrib isn't the only one with this being big
news. Really shouldn't need to be news. But hey if it makes people happy
and increases readership...
We all say "Amen" at the end of the prayer, so we all have prayed. As
many of the comments have stated that it doesn't matter if a woman (Sister)
is the voice of the prayer at G. I think this article would have been better if
it focused on the gathering of great talks given by women at the various General
The reason it is important is because organizations (like the church) sometimes
inadvertantly send messages about what they believe through their actions. For
example, imagine that half of the church membership was of Asian ancestry and
over a period of 150+ years we never asked an Asian person to pray at general
conference. What there be a message there? What would you think if you were
of Asian ancestry. I bet you would not think it is because the leaders of the
church thought that Asians were too good to pray. We have to be thoughtful
about our actions as a church because sometimes traditions (perhaps false
traditions) send wrong messages. Women not praying at General Conference is
probably a good example of this.
I don't see the big deal about if women pray or not. I think everybody is
making a big deal about the whole thing. I think it is great if they do. It
shouldn't even be a topic for a newspaper.
I have watch alot of general conferences and never realized that a women has not
opened or close any of those sessions in prayer. Though I would not have a
concern in the world if women did pray at general conference, but I don't
it is that big of a deal. General Conference is a time to learn and focus on the
Savior and what we need to do to become better followers of Christ. Wheather a
man or a women gives the prayer at conference it does not matter as long as
their pray is from the heart, sincere and helps bring the Spirit into the
meeting. That is all that matters.
I have no problem with women praying in general conference or any where. What
does bother me is all the indifferent and often judgmental responses to those
who are genuinely pained by the easily correctable minutia. Have these
indifferent and judgmental people forgotten the core of the gospel, charity? Why
are so many adverse to resolving easily corrected issues that will result in a
greater sense of self-worth and well-being for others while doing absolutely no
harm to anyone?
I hadn't ever noticed women not praying in GC either. However, I do see why
there may be a need to address it. I know of a woman who was told she
couldn't pray at a district meeting on her mission because they had decided
to follow the example set at GC of only the Priesthood praying. I do not think
that this was done intentionally by General Authorities, but whether they were
meaning to or not, they were setting an example that others (silly as it may be)
were taking to heart. Just my two cents. Love the gospel and am excited to feel
the Spirit at GC, regardless of who prays!
It's their church. I don't think any one out side of it has any thing
to say how they do things. It's none of any ones business but theirs.
The big deal is that it took a petition of thousands before the church made a
decision to change this odd policy that officially never existed. The big deal
is that they listened to the voices of the members who thought women praying in
GC would be a good thing. The big deal is that in LDS culture it's
perceived as taboo to petition the church to change anything, even something as
simple as easily changed as this, and the organizers of the petition were
vilified for making any noise. The big deal is that now maybe that perception
will change a little and people will realize that the voice of any of God's
children can be the vehicle by which church leaders gain inspiration. Ask and ye
To whomever it makes a difference to them whether or not women pray in
Conference--Get a life. It just doesn't matter.
God put our eyes in the front of our head for a reason- to not look back. Look
forward with faith and allow The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to
follow the spirit of the program for the General Conference.
Since the time when the Quorums of Seventy have been increased so markedly to
further the worldwide work, it became traditional for members of the Seventy to
offer the GC prayers. So it has nothing to do with the male/female
issue. The far more important thing is that we have the opportunity regularly
to hear from our Sister leaders in Conference. Remember back to the times
of the three day General Conference format when we heard from ALL of the General
Authorities? As usual, the SLTrib is making something out of nothing and
the DesNews probably should not have even mentioned it.
3GrandKeys says, "The big deal is that it took a petition of thousands
before the church made a decision to change this odd policy that officially
never existed."The article says: “Decisions on speakers
and prayers at general conference were made late last year,” said Scott
Trotter, spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.And also this: "That has stimulated some social media discussion since
mid-January of this year — after assignments for the April conference had
been made by the church."
So many people commenting that this is a meaningless change. If it
was a meaningless change, there wouldn't be so many people trying to defend
the status quo.A foundational belief of the Church is continuing
revelation. The restoration of the gospel is ongoing. (AoF 9.) Anyone who spends
much time defending the status quo is going to find him- or herself on the wrong
side of Church history.In other words, change is happening. The
Church handbook says "Men and women may offer both opening and closing
prayers in Church meetings." The 2013 scriptures have more gender-inclusive
language. Women are serving missions in growing numbers. Women have a more
important place in the ward council than in previous generations.It
may be helpful to know that the Relief Society used to have biannual
multiple-day conferences. That ended about 1970, but except for the single,
annual, 1-1/2 hour-long Relief Society meeting, women had little meaningful
participation at the Church level except the recent practice of about two women
speaking during the 10-hour general conference proceedings each April and
October.The Book of Mormon says all are alike to God. Let's
practice what we preach.
I have noticed that women don't pray in General Conference, and it
hasn't affected my testimony one whit. I have not counted how many Asians,
Tongans, or Africans have prayed. I have listened to the words of the prayers
and been uplifted.I have more concern for the many Ward Welfare and
Correlation meetings I have attended in which my voice wasn't heard. My
comments in the meetings were often mocked and treated with condescension. That
is a much bigger problem in my experience.
3GrandKeys, where did you hear about a petition or someone being vilified for
putting forth said petition? Where did you hear about a "non-policy"
being changed? I, like most of the posters here had never realized that a
woman had never offered the prayer in a GENERAL session of general conference,
but I do take issue with the assertion that a woman has never offered a prayer
in general conference because I consider the Young Women's general meeting
and the Relief Society general meetings to be part of general conference.Hdizzle, Really!? If they truly wanted to "follow the example", they
would need to requisition a General Authority for every district meeting. I served a mission many years ago and prayed in district and zone and meetings
and also in Sunday worship services. I organized a special training conference
for 30 women and probably prayed in a half mission conference also, but
don't really remember since it was a non-issue just like this. It is
vastly more significant that women are offering sermons than that they might or
might not offer a prayer.Washcomom: You've got it right, sister! We
all say amen, WE ALL PRAY!
The big deal is that women were not allowed to pray in sacrament and fast and
testimony meetings in the church between 1968 and 1978. The church handbooks at
that time specified that a Melchizedek priesthood holder had to pray at those
meetings. Somebody high up wanted it in the handbook. It must have been a big
deal to someone in the church if they had to change the handbook. Considering
its only a handbook. I know the focus should be on Jesus and his
atonement at conferences. But its disturbing that so many members of the church
are willing to ignore the news of the change in practice. The church and the
church body ignore things that make them uncomfortable. Its our M.O. to ignore
things. That's what we do. We pretend its not a big deal so the news dies.
I'm glad women are allowed to pray in General Conference. Its
the idea that they have to be "allowed" to pray in conference that
bothers me. Anyway, the church is true.
Women have been speaking in general conference for years. Doubtless, had they
been praying in conference but not speaking, there would be a hullabaloo about
not speaking. Because there are now so many members of the Seventy among the
general authorities, the likelihood of a member of the Seventy speaking in
general conference is less than that of any woman who happens to be serving in
the presidency of the Primary, Young Women, or Relief Society organizations.
Still, small minds desperate for attention continue straining at gnats, rather
than focusing on the Savior of the world and His Atonement--at Easter time. The
world is too much with us. . ..How I love our Savior's insight:
"Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things, but one
thing is needful, and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken
away from her."
I'am amazed at the number of people who would rather follow the arm of
man/woman, than the arm of the lord thru his prophet. When the time is right,
the lord will let us know.
Re: Danish American,How Christian of you, commanding others to get a
life for having opinions.
why does this matter so much to some ? i leave decisions to our dear prophet and
his counselors also the quorum of the 12....lets let them ask our Heavenly
Father and let them decide. conference is a wonderful time, lets not
damper the weekend with speculations and worldly pushing
Does it matter?
@dustman"The big deal is that women were not allowed to pray in
sacrament and fast and testimony meetings in the church between 1968 and
1978."Among others. Where you alive during these times?"But its disturbing that so many members of the church are willing to
ignore the news of the change in practice. The church and the church body ignore
things that make them uncomfortable. Its our M.O. to ignore things. "Truth."I'm glad women are allowed to pray in
General Conference. Its the idea that they have to be "allowed" to pray
in conference that bothers me."Yep, agree with you 100%."Anyway, the church is true."Are you saying that
Hopefully it will be a woman CEO of an LDS Church owned company, Sherri Dew.
That'd dispatch a lot of strawmen in one shot. I think she has more
respect for the sanctity of worship services than to wear pants, but that would
add a nice touch too. I could care less either way; whatever they
choose to do is fine by me.
@timpskier-"imagine that half of the church membership was of Asian
ancestry and over a period of 150+ years we never asked an Asian person to pray
at general conference. What there be a message there? What would you think if
you were of Asian ancestry."Hmm. Well, over half the church
membership consists of regular 'ol members. I can't recall the last
time I ever heard one a them ever offer a prayer in GC. "This session's
invocation will be offered by the Course 16 Sunday School teacher from the SLC
1st Ward". Yeah, I get the message. Being a regular ward member without a
high-falutin' calling doesn't count.
Why is this even an issue? It seems to me that there is always someone stirring
the pot when it does not make a difference one way or another. Women pray in
their own wards, what is the big deal? Honestly, get a life!
I thought there was a war on women among conservatives? Maybe the war is over or
perhaps a cease fire?
I wonder if any of the "it's no big deal--there are more important
things to worry about" commenters appreciate the irony of their taking the
time to comment about something that they think is so unimportant.
@DanishAmerican"To whomever it makes a difference to them whether or
not women pray in Conference--Get a life. It just doesn't matter."Typical male entitlement, this is exactly what the problem in the church
is that's being addressed.
"Why is this even an issue? ...Women pray in their own wards..."No, IdahoGirl, even within the past few years there have been wards
where women are restricted from praying. Sometimes they are not allowed to say
the opening prayer, sometimes it's the closing prayer. (Usually depending
on how the ward or stake leadership remembers the Church Handbook from around
1970.)It is a real issue.It creates real pain.It is not good, IdahoGirl, to be blind to people's real pain.
@atl134: What makes you think I'm male. Pretty judgemental of you
wouldn't you say?
It's amazing the things some people will get all worked up over. Just sit
back and enjoy the meeting. There's no need to make a fuss over who is
speaking/praying or not. If it bothers you, it very well may be a personal
problem, not a program problem.
@AreaReader - I am not blind to this! I have been a member my whole life - 54
years - and honestly, never recall there being a time that women didn't
give prayers in Sacrament meeting! I remember as a very young girl, 7 or 8, when
my mother gave the opening prayer in Sacrament meeting! Could it be the foreign
countries that have this issue? And I guess I don't understand why it
creates pain? I know lots of women who are grateful that they are NOT asked to
pray. But then you have those who use it to "preach" pray & that
isn't good either.
@AreaReader - So explain to me why this creates pain? I guess I feel you see
things differently than I do, and that is okay! But I won't let you accuse
me of being "blind to people's real pain" when really if it is such
a BIG issue, those people who have the "issue" need to do a little soul
searching & ask themselves if this is really worth making it an issue? I
think of a lot of other things that are worth debating rather than women praying
in meetings....really AreaReader, you don't know me at all so don't
accuse me of being blind to people's pain - if prayer is "real
pain" then priorities need to be accessed & they need to analyze where
they are in the gospel! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints is not
perfect, because people are not perfect - however, the gospel is. If we follow
our Prophet & serve the best we can, then we are doing what we are suppose
to be doing.
When I was growing up, it was church policy that women could not pray in SM.
Surprised? True! Provo BYU Campus Education Week is attended by WAY more women
than men yet when the instructor looks around for people to close the classes,
he (even SHE!) ALWAYS ask men. I wrote a polite note one time early one week at
the last CEW I attended asking the instructor why he always chose men. I placed
it on his lectern. Guess what? The next day and from then on he asked WOMEN.
Your mom prays in General Conference. ...So I
wonder...Which prayer will be longer, a man's or a
woman's? The shorter, less sermon-like prayer gets my vote, regardless of
I thought I remembered Lucile C. Reading praying at the start of a Saturday
session of General Conference back in the 1970's, but guess from all this
whoopla-la, I was mistaken.I'm with TimpSkier here: "We have to be thoughtful about our actions as a church because sometimes
traditions (perhaps false traditions) send wrong messages."We
can see the trickle-down as Hdizzle pointed out when mission leaders determined
sister missionaries shouldn't be asked to pray because of the
"example" (a false example, as it turns out if we see a woman pray next
month) of only men praying in GC. Other false examples are church
members believing they are better than other people, or that anyone with a
tattoo or not in a white shirt or long skirt is to be shunned. We are all on the
earth together to learn to love and respect everyone. Let's hope we can
start one of these days.
3GrandKeys Walnut Creek, CA: What you and others need to understand no one can
make changers to a church except God. He makes the rules not us, if we make
changers with out his approval then we run the risk of God's wrath.
It's important to not let political correctness or public peer pressure
deter any of us from doing what we know to be right, according to the gospel as
revealed to us through our Prophets.While having a woman perform the
opening or closing prayer at a general conference may be big news or a major
milestone to some, the most important point is to have someone worthy,
regardless of gender, offer a prayer as prompted by the Holy Spirit.And women are just as capable as men of doing so.
IdahoGirl, the Church handbook in the mid 1960s-mid 1970s evidently stated that
only men could pray in sacrament meeting. If you saw anything differently done
during that decade, it would have been contrary to church policy."So explain to me why this creates pain?"If you don't
know why issues of inequality and lack of opportunity and legal protection can
cause pain, you may not be familiar with the history of the Women's Rights
Movement, which was led in the Intermountain West by Relief Society President
Emmeline B. Wells and others. You may also not be familiar with the Civil Rights
Movement. You may not be familiar with the story of the 1978 Revelation on the
Priesthood. There's a recent Vol. 2 biography of President Kimball by his
son. Fascinating story."I think of a lot of other things that
are worth debating rather than women praying in meetings"And you
are the one who gets to decide? Who gave you that right?
Women pray all the time at my house. Long overdue for General Conference.
The thing I notice is Mormons use the spirit as an excuse to be lazy in thought.
For instance I recently attended a funeral. The grieving widow forgot to
include the deceased's first family in the speakers. She afterward said,
that she just went by what the spirit told her to do. Here to there
seems to be a current that we just have to wait for TSM to tell us what to do.
However, JS in the D&C taught us to study things out in our own my mind,
then seek God's counsel. For those who patiently wait for God to make
changes, great. I am sure you will be blessed. But I appreciate those who seek
to help change happen - the brethern need their help.
Re: IdahoGirl"...really if it is such a BIG issue, those people
who have the "issue" need to do a little soul searching & ask
themselves if this is really worth making it an issue?"That same
argument was made regarding blacks not receiving the priesthood, and
consequently, temple blessings. Just because YOU don't think it is a big
issue, doesn't mean it isn't to someone else. Just because YOU
don't have pain at this issue, doesn't mean that others don't,
nor does it mean that their pain is less than pain you may over something
else.As to this not being a problem in your ward; great. It was a
common practice in my stake, up until a new stake president was called 3 years
ago. Again, just because YOU don't see the problem does not mean it
Who cares? What I want to know is when will there be a woman Pope?.....oh,
that's right, they already had one. Whoops!
Much ado about nothing . . .
I don't believe the majority of LDS church leadership is racist, homophobic
or misogynistic. They may be slow to react to what many in the church feel are
important issues, but these responsibilities of theirs are much greater than
your typical LDS member. Determining and building on the spiritual and secular
needs of the kingdom will always be more important than the desires of a few who
feel they are being discriminated against. So if a petition has resulted in a
recognition of a problem that needed to be corrected, then good for those who
felt this change was necessary. I tend to believe that the group petitioning for
change will feel satisfied only for a short time. That new demands and petitions
will be made until the very male dominated priesthood is demanded by those who
do not have it.
Please don't let this PC garbage creep into the Church. Not here. Haven't members of the auxiliary presidencies already offered prayers in
General Conference (and I do mean General Conference, not the General Young
Women/Relief Society Meetings)? If they haven't I haven't noticed, but
I would swear they have. When I agree with the content of a prayer offered on my
behalf, I will always say "amen," whether that prayer was vocalized by a
male or a female. It makes no difference to me.
Too many people don't know the difference between church POLICY and church
DOCTRINE. Policy changes occur to meet the needs of the time, doctrine never
changes. Who prays in church or at General Conference is policy, not doctrine.
Petitioning the church to change policies is appropriate, since our leaders may
want to know how policies are affecting the members. The media also do not
understand that the church's policies change from time to time, but the
core doctrines do not. If they are truey interested, they should view General
Conference to hear church doctrine (delivered by both men and women) instead of
focusing on policies that may or may not be in force at any given time. I also
agree that if you're spending time worrying about this, you should not only
pay strict attention at GC, but should also find better things to do.
Not only do I think it is very important that a woman pray in the next General
Conference, but that woman should WEAR PANTS!
O puhlease....I became gender-blind towards people decades ago, just like I
became color-blind. This is so a non-issue. Some of us have really, truly
moved beyond this. I would no more think about this than I would wonder how
many red-heads have prayed in General Conference over the years. Sad to see how
some are still living back in the 60's.
As recently as 2005, a stake we lived in on the east coast would not allow women
to say the opening prayer in sacrament meetings stating that technically
sacrament meetings are priesthood meetings.
She'll pray at the Priesthood session, and she'll be wearing a suit.
Really? Is this a story or the National Enquirer?
Sheesh, now I've just GOT to ask: Sisters, does a male ever open or close
the Relief Society Session? Is it always women that say the prayers? Did you
ever notice? I can't sleep tonight until I hear the answer!
@truthseeker: apparently your stake president thought he had the authority to
rewrite the Handbook then... see 18.5
So let's pretend I am in Primary Presidency and during Sharing Time, and I
ask for volunteers for prayers or answering questions, etc. I only call on
girls, even though I know the boys are just as capable and willing as the girls.
But because I know the boys would answer the questions or participate in the
same way as the girls, it doesn't really matter that I don't call on
the boys. The boys should just be happy that they have the opportunity to hear
A recent BYU study published in American Political Science Revie reports the
following...“Women have something unique and important to add
to the group, and that’s being lost, at least under some
circumstances,” said Chris Karpowitz, Ph.D., the lead study author and a
political scientist at BYU.“When women participated more, they
brought unique and helpful perspectives to the issue under discussion,”
Karpowitz said. “We’re not just losing the voice of someone who
would say the same things as everybody else in the conversation.”
“'In her journals [Elaine A. Cannon] talks about being the first
general Young Women president to speak in general conference, and what a
blessing that was,' Woodger said." It bears noting here
that Ruth May Fox, the YL MIA President, spoke at the October 1929, April 1930,
and October 1930 general conferences. “'She remembers
how one of the members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles quoted from her talk
in the next general conference. She said it helped her to realize how the Lord
was very aware of what people are going to say in general conference, and she
felt like she was working hand-in-hand with the priesthood in that
way.'”Which member of the Quorum of the Twelve quoted her
and in which general conference?
This one generates a big yawn and a big so what. I don't listen or watch
General Conference for the prayers. Music yes, talks yes, prayers no.So as far as I'm concerned they could have my two year old grandson pray
(Mother or Father helping of course) and I couldn't care less. What a
total non-issue. But then if the Trib says it, it must be true.
I think it is good that a woman will pray in General Conference, but really it
is not too much of an issue for me.However, I do take issue that the
public pressure campaign had anything to do with this. Apparently, the decision
on who prays in General Conference comes months in advance - probably in
January. That was about the time the campaign to pressure the Church to allow
women to pray in General Conference BEGAN.To me, it might just be
more of a coincidence that the Brethren are allowing women to pray in General
Conference when the public campaign come about, rather than it as a result of
the public campaign. To me the evidence is not strong enough to "claim
victory" as some of those are claiming who wrote letters to the Church on
the issue. If the public campaign was started several months before January then
the evidence would be stronger that it influenced this decision.
Personally, I don't see this as earth shattering news. I never got the
impression that women couldn't pray at general conference, I just figured
they had so many members of the seventy who will never get a chance to speak in
conference during their three or five year tenure that at least they could offer
a prayer.I just cringe at possible headlines which might read - LDS
Church finally recognizes women and let's them participate in world wide
church conference.My only concern is that who ever offers a prayer
doesn't turn it into a ten minute talk.
@will7370"I became gender-blind towards people decades ago, just
like I became color-blind."You say that as if being gender-blind
or color-blind are actually positive traits but they're not because in this
case it means you are making no attempt at all to understand how women in a
church with an all-male priesthood might feel about something like this.
There is no evidence that the Church has in any way responsded to a petition.
To begin with, there is no evidence that there is a policy involved. The fact
of the matter is the text of the prayers is not published, and it seems a really
minor issue. I really have the feeling some people are trying to make a fight
where there is none.
Exactly George of the Jungle,It's their church, not mine or billions
of other Christians. We know we have the church of Jesus Christ through His
Word, the Bible...We are born of God. There are many small churches as the LDS
church, it's not the church of the Christian faith, we know we are the
believers and it matters not what church we belong to, we are all of the same
body, His body, the bride. Praise God.
My wife and I have general conference every night. She takes her turn to pray
every other night. Amen.
As I understand it, not only is a significant majority of the Church membership
female, but an even larger majority of the active membership are female...Yet when a respectful, historically grounded, and doctrinally based
petition is enjoined by some "faithful" members of the Church, citing
the many historical precedents for such an approach, not only do the (mostly
male) readers of the Deseret News trivialize the obvious pain and suffering this
issue has caused, but they deny the historicity and legitimacy of the petition
in the first place, demonizing those who put it forward as unworthy and
unfaithful!I stand all amazed at how the behavior of the believers
continues to confirm the negative characteristics we have come to expect from
them.I thought you all took a covenant to "mourn with those who
mourn"? But when many women in the Church are "mourning", you
essentially kick them while they are down?Amazing...
A Prayer is a Prayer. It isn't that important Who says it, as much as the
attitude and frame of mind of the person who offers it. Gender is not an issue
for prayer or who offers it. All are Childern of God, both male and female. Individual prayers are far more important than an invocation or
benediction of a largepublic gathering. Prayers are Not
allowed in most public schools. We should be Grateful that someone is still
allowed to pray in public gatherings such as a public conference. This question of gender just seems to be an effort to distract from the
praying and its value.The Roman Catholic Church is also currently
getting this same type controversy about "gender" of the participants.
I'm sure the Apostle Paul would be in the same controversy also, if he
lived in this same world of today, of "straining at a gnat and swallowing a
So...if someone leaned over to you during conference after the invocation and
whispered, "did you know that was the first woman to EVER pray in general
conference," your honest response would be, "so?" or
"shush!"I just don't get it. It's a GOOD THING
that women are praying in GC, isn't it? Does anyone want to take a step
back to when they didn't now? Why not be stoked about this? Seeing this
comment board is like seeing the whole tabernacle choir plugging their ears and
singing LALALALA... I have no idea why anyone would want to smother this thing
and ignore it. Aren't we supposed to seek after these types of things?
If my opinion (just that) those who are concerned about such trivial issues have
a problem with their testimony. We have had women SPEAK in GC which is much more
important that who opens or closes a meeting.
I can only guess, but I suspect that the fact that women haven't given
prayers in GC has more to do with the fact that there are more GAs than speaking
opportunities. It used to be that all GAs spoke every conference. Now many of
the Seventy may only speak once while the are GAs. So, they are given a chance
to pray instead.I agree that rarely does anyone remember a prayer.
Talks are what we remember. This really does seem like such a non-issue.
This is something to be genuinely happy about! I am so surprised that some
commentators are insistent that we not feel happy--or even feel anything--about
this wonderful turn of events! And then there are comments that have to
"prove" the Brethren weren't listening to anyone when they made the
change--as if that was somehow awful or humiliating if they did!Can't we just be happy about something that is obviously so right?
Greater light and knowledge and all that?
Scientist- It's fine if a woman prays in General Conference. I
personally have no problem with that. However, as a Mormon woman, I can't
think how I have been in mourning because historically this has not happened. I
am not sure how I have experienced such pain and suffering that I would need
others to help me carry it. When I have had heavy burdens to carry I
have found so many, men and women, who have helped me carry them, who have truly
mourned with me. Often we find what we look for.