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Logan residents file $25M lawsuit to stop project, have canal restored to previous state

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  • CynicJim Taylorsville, UT
    March 24, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    This is a case of the fence 'round the top of the cliff or an ambulance down in the valley. Elected officials notwithstanding have no say, the water owners have the say, and they are the responsible party in case of injury or accept the liability. Economically, it is in their interest to prevent accidents and property damage---I guess they should erect the fence and let the elected officials pay for the ambulance.

  • joanbeatri Danville, CA
    March 21, 2013 10:22 p.m.

    This is the canal that flooded my great grandparents' basement home when my grandmother and her twin brother and the rest of the family lived after they came to America from Norway. Six-year-olds (approximately) Grandma, Bertine Berg, and Great Uncle, Cornelius Berg, were home alone playing checkers on the bed to keep dry. The basement home was flooded with water with the spring thaw. Someone came to visit and the mischievous youngsters said, "Come on in." Of course, entering the dark basement from the bright sunlight, the visitor was unaware of the lake he was walking into until he stepped down the stairs and got soaking wet. The same duo had stolen soda crackers on the ship on which they immigrated, but got caught when the button on Cornelius' knickers snapped and all the crackers fell on the deck.

  • Mom of 8 Hyrum, UT
    March 20, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    I used to live along that canal in Logan. Yes, it's picturesque, but I feared every day that my toddler, or older kids, would slip my view for just one minute and meet a tragic end.

    We need to stop being selfish about what individuals want, and grow up to do what's best for the community at large. A family died because of the canal. Really, that's not enough?

  • joy Logan, UT
    March 20, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    When a city or county is sued it's not the elected officials that pays out of pocket it's you the
    taxpayer that pays. Are you happy with that?
    When putting eye candy above life is a price we all pay.
    It's not that I put so much trust in my elected officials but I have the confidence to believe studies have been done about the dangers of another break in the system in the future. When it comes to water
    there will always be the wearing away of soil and break down of old pipes. Unless the engineers are on their toes with Cache Valley waterways we are destined for another incident. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

  • applesnoranges24 Logan, UT
    March 20, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    @CWEB

    "Visual Water is always better than hidden water. Elect new officials. That'll get their attention."

    I'm going to completely ignore the first sentence, and not go into a rant about water quality because I believe you meant aesthetically. However, I cannot ignore the following two sentences. Do you truly believe this project is occurring because of elected officials? While elected officials generally have a say in if a project goes through or not, it was most likely not their idea to implement the project in the first place. However, as an elected official, I am assuming (and hoping) that safety of a community is a huge priority. In this case, there is no restoring the structural integrity of the river bank. Unless the piping happens another breach in the canal will occur and how many lives will it take this time? I personally don't want to wait and find out.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    March 20, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    Salt Lake City is opening and exposing City Creek after many years of it being underground, Logan is burying theirs...ho hum.

    Visual Water is always better than hidden water. Elect new officials. That'll get their attention.

    Provo buried the open canal on 5th West that all the little kids and families loved to play in. Sad loss for the kids. Very sad how a few elected officials destroy so much of the freedom and enjoyment of so many. Government, a necessary evil in so many ways.

  • SoCal Andy Thousand Oaks, CA
    March 20, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    I have many fond memories of floating the Logan Canal in an inner tube.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 20, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    To "GQ Monkee" this isn't an issue of corporations vs. the people. This is a land rights isue. The owners of the canal want to do one thing with their land, and the neighbors don't like like it.

    Imagine you wanted to paint your house green and your neighbors sued you to keep it the original color because they liked the original color. What would you do? Who is right?

  • Dante Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    With the rise of the Internet and the onslaught of instant news, we are daily confronted with hurried and slipshod writing. Missing facts, poor punctuation, and imprecise language have become commonplace. How refreshing to come upon this well-crafted little jewel of journalism. My compliments to Mr. Anderson.

  • applesnoranges24 Logan, UT
    March 20, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    The choice to close off a canal that was man-made seems to be excellent - in this case. After a huge break like the one that happened earlier, the integrity of that bank will NEVER be as strong. It's similar to the idea of earthquakes - once there's a break, there's going to be another.

    Is it really that important to them to have money and a stream then to save many lives in the coming years? How many people have drowned in that canal in addition to the three that died from the break? Is your landscape really more important than a life? If so, then tell the City YOU will take on the liability involved.

    Furthermore, piping water instead of having an open-faced stream SAVES water. Your argument that other communities rely on this water really back-fires. Due to water rights, they will still be getting as much water as they currently have the right to. The amount of water that will be saved due to no more evaporation will be incredible.

  • fish8 Vernal, UT
    March 20, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    As long as you want it restored to it's previous state, why not go all the way and put it like it was before someone dug canals all over. Times change and some folks just don't want that to happen.

  • Reader Sandy, UT
    March 20, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    The canals are manmade and not natural waterways like the Logan River, so Dr. Gobel's comment is akin to comaring apples to oranges. As long as the city provides appropriate landscaping to the covered and open areas, I don't see a problem. I do think that if these citizens lived down the hillside below the canal rather than beside it or above it, they may have a different view of what is being done.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    @dan76

    Explain how it was remotely a crime scene. What "crime" was committed?

  • Allen#2 WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 20, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    While living in Logan, I often wondered how many children would need to fall into the open canals and drown before there would be no more dangerous, open canals.

    As a former resident of Logan, I think it was an excellent decision to have the canals covered and think the canals in the Salt Lake Valley should also be covered.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    March 20, 2013 7:10 a.m.

    This isn't just a local houseing problem. Outlying communities rely on those canals. The canals need to be maintained.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 20, 2013 6:42 a.m.

    The decision to have a covered canal vs an open air canal is a political decision, not a legal one. If residents feel this way, they should have been involved in the decision making process all along. This really isn't an issue for a court to decide.

  • RBB Sandy, UT
    March 20, 2013 6:24 a.m.

    We want our pretty stream, but please make sure we can sue the irrigation board if someone gets hurt by it. Yea, the people who oversee the canals professionally probably do know more about it than the common citizen. If you want the canal making a pretty stream on you property, you should have signed an agreement accepting full liability in case someone gets injured.

  • dan76 san antonio, TX
    March 20, 2013 5:45 a.m.

    Joy of Logan:

    You seem to forget most often the legal system is the only way for citizens to extract accountability from government/corporate officials. Furthermore these same officials were responsible for safe operation of this canal system.

    Additionally I recall reading whereby the Logan City police chief arrogantly declared the site where folks died due to the onrush of mud and water through their house was not a crime scene. The rapid issuance of this statement raised concerns of a successful attempt to reduce corporate responsibility for the tragedy.

    Go ahead and continue your confidence in city officials in safeguarding your property and family members. Hopefully you won't have to utilize the legal system to extract accountability when your trust is violated.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    March 19, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    Trusting a city to do things right, is rather risky.

  • GQ Monkee Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 19, 2013 9:38 p.m.

    It has become abundantly clear to me that citizens of Cache Valley will lose to corporate and bureaucratic interests in all such issues. The closing of the canyon's canal and the covering of the Island's are just two parts of the we-know-better-than-you approach Cache County has taken toward its citizens. It's sad, really.

  • joy Logan, UT
    March 19, 2013 7:16 p.m.

    I am also in an area (close to where the break occurred) where the river is part of my landscape but by no
    means would I want to take the chance of another life being lost. I am confident that the city is doing its part
    to prevent that from happening even though sacrifices would need to be made. Suing for $25 million will do nothing
    but hurt the entire community. People are just sue crazy. I hope the courts decides in the cities favor. $25 million really?