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Published: Friday, March 15 2013 12:20 p.m. MDT

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Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:AntiBush

First, D.C. Does not have a total gun ban. It did have a ban against handguns until the Supreme Court struck it down in 2008 in Heller v D.C.

Second, It is a very short trip from D.C. to VA where gun laws are lax.

D.C. is illustrative of why we Federal gun laws.

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

I think effective gun control would be passing laws that target the criminal element something like if a gun is used in the commission of a crime it will be punishable by a 25 year prison sentence without the possibility of parole. A sentence like that would make anyone think twice before using a gun to harm or threaten a person.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

in 2003, New York City Councilman James Davis (D) was shot and killed by a political opponent in the City Council chamber prior to the meeting. Davis' assassin, Othniel Askew, who was killed by police, had purchased his weapon legally. He was able to bring it into City Hall under rules then in place that allowed council members and their guests to bypass metal detectors. Davis, a retired police officer, was also carrying a gun when he was shot.

"In 2010, NY police hit three bystanders in a shootout with a gunman."

" In another incident, gunman, Jeffrey T. Johnson, collapsed and died: nine bystanders were struck, cradling bloody arms or lying on the sidewalks and curbs.

The police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, confirmed on Saturday that all nine were wounded by police bullets, bullet fragments or shrapnel from ricochets. Mr. Kelly also confirmed that the shooter, Mr. Johnson, never fired another shot after killing a former co-worker, Steven Ercolino, moments earlier."

And these incidents happened with fully trained and experienced professionals.
What do you suppose the chances of "success" are with average citizens taking the law into their own hands?

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

Craig Clark, you are from Colorado where liberals want control and have it to a large degree with legalizing drugs, refusing Jessica's law, etc. We are not Colorado. The second
amendment is not about drivers licenses or car registration, it relates to the right to bear arms without infringment. Please at least, stay on topic.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

In the old days we were pretty well all trained in gun safety supported by the NRA. I can remember our Jr. High Coach, a real boys man letting me take home one of his revolvers without ammo to show my parents. He had loaned this to me for a prop in a coowboy show at the Jr. High School. That was over 70 years ago an no one even on the school bus even worried about it. I had been trained in gun safety by my grandpa and dad and knew the dangers of mishandling a firearem. who trains nowdays aside from the Boy Scouts, Front Sight, Conceal Carry Instructors and the NRA. Certainly not the schools.

Governor, veto the bill, there are too many nut jobs and revenge freaks running and driving around nowdays who have never had any trainsing at all, especially from schools. It gives a call for more frequent display of a firearm in the hands of trained individuals.We do ot need this.l

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Seeker:

If its anecdotal evidence you want, you need to read the studies that show armed citizens use a firearm to prevent a crime thousands of times each day in this country. But we never hear that from the leftist media. I wonder why.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

John, because it's not true.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

mark:

Yes it is. Google Prof. Gary Kleck, Florida State Univ.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Yeah, John, I know that is the study you are referring to. Sorry, but Prof Kleck's study has been shown to be very flawed. And by saying flawed I'm being kind. Fantasy would be a better word. Read some of the critiques of it. There are any number of them. There is very good reason you never hear about Kleck's study from the media.

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