@worf --"@xscribe--amazondoc---you're talking about
coveting."Nope, we're talking about discrimination. It
doesn't matter whether you believe me. Just look up some of the Supreme
Court cases dealing with racial discrimination in housing, for instance Shelley
v. Kraemer (1948) and Jones v. Mayer Co. (1968). This isn't some newfangled
idea we're talking about here -- the anti-discrimination principle was
established many decades ago.The 1968 Supreme Court case in
particular specifically confirmed that "all racial discrimination, private
as well as public, in the sale or rental of property" is illegal.Also in 1968 Congress passed the Federal Fair Housing Act, which further
banned housing discrimination based on "race, color, religion, sex, national
origin, familial status or handicap".You said: "The laws are
wrong here, and un-American."The anti-discrimination laws
conform with the US Constitution, as affirmed by the US Supreme Court. You
can't get much more American than that.
@xscribe--amazondoc---you're talking about coveting. If you
deny me access to your bank account, automobile, house, or food, then
you're a bigot. I have a right to your stuff, because I'm broke,
starving, and you can't deny me.Housing, or a business, are
owned by a person. It's that persons decision (not government) on what to
do with it.The laws are wrong here, and un-American.
By Worf's argument, we should be able to go back to segregation: Any
business owner should be able to deny access to their establishment based on
@worf --"@Tolstoy--how do you legislate something like this
without taking away freedoms? Right or wrong, a landlord should be able to
decide who he/she rents out to, or a business owner deciding who to
hire."The very same argument was used years ago by the people
who fought to maintain racial segregation. Equal rights means **equal rights for
all** -- not just for people you happen to like. And yes, landlords CAN decide
to whom they want to rent -- they just have to use REAL reasons for their
decisions, not reasons based on bigotry. The only "freedom" anyone is
taking away is the freedom to discriminate against others -- and that isn't
one of the freedoms protected in the US Constitution."I was
almost denied a police job because of being short, but got it by out witting the
competition."Being short has concrete, measurable consequences
for the performance of police duties. Just as being extremely tall would in the
military (my own brother was ineligible for military service because he's
too tall). In contrast, being homosexual does not. That's why height is a
valid criterion for hiring in some jobs, while sexual orientation isn't.
@Tolstoy--how do you legislate something like this without taking away freedoms?
Right or wrong, a landlord should be able to decide who he/she rents out to, or
a business owner deciding who to hire. It's American freedom.Out witting means,--creating your own businesses, and hire, or rent to whom
ever you want. Why set the state, or feds as referees?Everyone gets
discriminated at some point in their lives. Nothing new. It's human
nature that we deal with, and crying about it to the state only makes it
worse.Ain't got time for dat!
@worfSo if the lgbt community "outwit" "their oppressors and
get laws outlawing discrimination then you will be fine with it right?
@WorfYou are right comparing an act of discrimination to a child crying
for their mother is pathetic .
In all my life, I have never found it to be fair. You learn to deal with it. I
was almost denied a police job because of being short, but got it by out witting
the competition. You learn to do, and survive. Unfairness come in many forms.Like a child crying to mommy, we have a group of people whining to
government because things are not fair.How pathetic, and lazy.