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Published: Monday, March 11 2013 5:05 p.m. MDT

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Woodyff
Mapleton, UT

This really shouldn't bother people, if you can legally own a gun there should not be a problem carrying concealed. The criminals carry their guns concealed and that should be your concern.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Will mutual gunfights in the street be a crime? Fastest draw will be big-time like the rooting tooting shooting old west! If your going to carry make sure you can draw quick and win and kill.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Let's hope the governor finds the courage to veto this one.

Woodyff
Mapleton, UT

@OneVote It is the gangs having the gun fights in the streets, not the honest people. People who legally can own guns use them for mainly home protection. You are not going to see an increase in concealed carry if this passes. However, I am not sure Gov. Herbert has what it takes to pass this bill, he is too interested in pleasing the minority of Utahan's that might oppose it.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

I hope Utah will have the courage to do the things that really need to be done to curb gun violence such as repealing ridiculous privacy laws that prevent medical professionals from sharing info with law enforcement agencies about people with serious mental and emotional issues.

Next legislation could be passed requiring firearm safety courses to be taught by the 6th grade. You don't have to irrationally fear things that you understand. Informnation is the beginning of understanding and the end of emotional responses that only produce more laws that cannot and will not be enforced.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The "Constitutional Carry" issue is about good guys having to get a permission slip to carry a legal self defense tool. HB76 is a good bill and should be passed and signed by the Governor.

The bad guys don't care about any laws, and don't bother with permits! Thus, the current permit requirement does NOT disarm criminals, only good guys.

Constitutional carry is not some crazy idea filled with unknown dangers or promoting random gunfire. Vermont has had this forever, Alaska for 10 years, Arizona for 3 years and Wyoming for 2 years with ZERO problems. And, other states are considering adopting it too.

Opponents and their arguments are the same used against mandatory issue of concealed carry permits in 1995. 18 years of actual data prove the critics were totally wrong then, and they are totally wrong now. That applies to old groups and any new groups of well intentioned, but factually wrong folks.

SME
Bountiful, UT

...it will also increase the unnecessarily high rate of homicide, suicide and domestic violence."

I would like to see some proof for that claim, I do not beleive it is true.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

A gun toting law abiding person becomes an outlaw when he pulls the trigger in a domestic argument or road rage incident. If everyone is carrying handguns on the street, will be a daily event. Better practice at the range twice a day.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The "blood in the street" claim has been trotted out yet again by the gun-grabbers. It
didn't prove true when Utah went from discretionary to "shall issue" concealed carry, nor when Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming adopted so-called "constitutional" carry legislation like this. The fact is, violent crime rates went down.

Heinlen was right: "An armed society is a polite society." The gun-grabbers just can't admit it.

Moabmom
Moab, UT

The criminals and gangs don't and will never stop carrying guns and using them in violent crimes. That's what makes them "criminals". The groups who are predicting chaos will erupt in the streets are just blowing smoke (anti gun talking points.) The facts don't back up their rhetoric. Law-abiding citizens have the God given right to protect themselves when their life is threatened, and they shouldn't have to "ask permission" from any gov't or pay a fee to the gov't to avail themselves of their 2nd amendment right. That being said, I hope our governor has the good sense to sign this Constitutional carry bill, but I am not holding my breath because, since his re-election, he seems to have grown more concerned with his PC image and checking which way the political winds are blowing than he is with the Constitution on the issue of gun rights.

ThornBirds
St.George, Utah

Common sense, as the world knows it, definitely flew out of Utah government office windows with this decision.
What is going on in Utah?
People appear to be so terribly frightened of any change, particularly change for citizen safety and for the best of our society!!

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Only the gun owner knows if a gun is loaded or not. EVERY gun is considered loaded and dangerous until it has an open breech and the clip removed. Perhaps those who want to carry an unloaded weapon should have an orange flag inserted in the chamber to notify others. An alternative is to veto the bill, a much more sensible solution.

dougbert
heber city, UT

I urge the Governor to PASSED this bill. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming all understand that honest citizens will obey laws and also act responsible. It is the criminal element which ignore laws.

Governor Herbert: Sign this bill into law!

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