worfMcallen, TXEvidence the PAC conference is weak._________Yeah. BYU was so dominant in the WCC they might have
earned an NIT bid!First you need to win games against your own bottom
Re: "Jim Boylen never won fewer than 13 games, and was fired for it."Brad Rock did not mention that Coach K had to find replacements for 12
recruits who suddenly changed their minds (after playing 2 games or fewer)Also, one news source reported that Boylen was fired after 4 years of no
progress. Those 2 factors make a bit of a difference, I think.
LOL at the comment saying the utes are back?! Comedy doesn't get any
better than this. They won 13 games and how many were against teams we have
never heard of?That was a nice win in their last game so I have to
give some credit but this team is nowhere near being back. They lose a bunch
with their seniors leaving and I don't recall any big names signing on.Those of us that were around when Utah was THE team in the state know
that this team has a LONG, LONG way to go. So cheer the improvement and say
they are "heading north" but don't claim to be back.
Nice win, Utes! Keep it going! We need at least one team in the state heading
Magna Ute FanExpounding on my comment about Bachinsky ... in
eighteen PAC-12 games he had grand totals of 15 points, 13 rebounds, and 6
assists. If I were to add up the turnovers I'm pretty sure there were more
of those than his blocks and steals combined (there weren't many).In his defense, his minutes were severely cut and there were a few games he
didn't even play. But then you'd still have to ask yourself why that
There is no sport where a quicker turnaround is possible than NCAA basketball.
Only five players are on the court at a time, and a freshman can be the best
player in the country. The Utes have improved in recruiting, coaching, and
performance. While I think it will be extremely difficult for them to be at the
top of their conference in football with any regularity, in basketball, anything
@worfWe need Moe evidence that the Pac12 conference is weak.
pocyUte"Motorbike, I think our bigger issue is the guard
line."________With all due respect, if our guard line is
bad next year, we're in serious trouble. This is the area we are by far the
deepest with current talent and incoming recruits.Here's who we
have ... obviously there won't be room for all of them on the active roster
so some will redshirt or go on missions:PG - Glen DeanPG -
Brandon TaylorPG - Brandon Miller (Freshman - probably mission bound)PG/SG - Delon Wright (Jr College)PG/SG - Parker Van Dyke (Freshman -
supposedly playing a year before mission)SG - Justin SeymourSG -
Ahmad Fields (Freshman)SG/SF - Aaron DotsonSG/SF - Dakarai Tucker
Magna Ute Fan"So you're saying Arizona and Arizona State
weren't decent competition?"__________He had a TOTAL
of 2 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists in his combined four games against Arizona
and ASU. So yeah, I'm calling Arizona and ASU better than decent
competition ... and yeah, Bachinsky disappeared.Look, I like the kid
and he may still have other issues going on for all we know. I hope he comes
back and has an awesome season next year, I am a Ute fan after all. I'm
simply being honest and realistic about what we should expect to see based on
what we've already seen.
@worf and other hatersEnjoy it while you can. Like it or not, the
Utes are back.
motorbike- "As for Bachinsky, I've lost faith. He all but disappeared
once Utah started playing decent competition." So you're
saying Arizona and Arizona State weren't decent competition? I agree he
disappeared. But I'm not sure it was "decent competition" that
caused his disappearance. I think he has shown an ability to compete. It just
hasn't been consistent.
Motorbike, I think our bigger issue is the guard line. Wright looks to be an
instant impact guy, but the only 2 returning guards with extensive experience
are Taylor and Dean and they are too small to run out there together. Dotson
and Tucker need to get healthy and Seymour needs to improve over the off season.
I think the talent is there, but experience in thinner than on the front line,
especially if it starts clicking for Olsen and Kovacevic can make the transition
from JuCo to the Pac. Couple that with the fact that the core of returning core
will have had another year of Coach K's system and playing together under
their belt, and I would expect another incremental improvement next year.
@Worf- seriously....weak conference?? How many PAC-12 teams will be invited to
the dance? How many WCC? Oregon's rating was a national ranking, not a
PAC-12 rating. How about... Utah, you played great today. You made Utah proud.
That would be hard for you,wouldn't it?Oh worf, worf, worf!
StGtoSLCI agree with your assessment to a large degree, however I
still think we saw some match up problems athletically with several teams at the
4 and 5 this year and it doesn't look to be much different roster-wise
going into next year. Loveridge is awesome and should only get better. But
Lenz doesn't inspire me as his backup. And even Loveridge is at times at a
disadvantage mainly because of his height (lack thereof).Olsen is looking
better everyday but will never be extremely athletic. He'll have some good
match ups but will struggle as a starter against solid athletic centers. I do
however think Olsen will improve every year ... I just don't anticipate
major changes in his sophomore year. As for Bachinsky, I've lost
faith. He all but disappeared once Utah started playing decent competition. And
like you, there's not enough info on the new foreign recruit to get any
hopes up there. The rest of the problem lies in that our other recruits
look good, but are all playing the 1,2 or 3 spots.I don't mean to
sound doom and gloom, just realistic.
Evidence the PAC conference is weak.
motorbike, Loveridge will be a sophomore and Lenz will be a senior next year,
and Bachinsky and Olsen can step into the position as well, depending on the
rotation, so I'm not too concerned about the power forward position.
Offensively, I think any of them have the skills to complement each other and
produce when needed. It's the defensive end they'll really need
improvement on, as none of them have showed they can consistently play hard
without fouling. But Coach Connor is a great defensive mind and Coach K is great
with the bigs, so I have faith in them stepping up. I'll reserve judgment
on the Serbian recruit until I've seen him play. But I feel confident that
Olsen will really become a star in the low post.But I agree with you
about the staff, Coaches K and Connor do a great job preparing and leading the
team and Slocum is a good recruiter. With a concerted effort of hard work, the
future is bright for the team.
Hopefully Ute fans will continue to be patient and keep their trust in this
coaching staff. Next year is still going to be awfully tough. Utah is adding
some nice new talent but they'll be outmatched at center in most games,
particularly in the PAC-12. If Bachinsky and Olsen can improve quite a bit then
it may not be too bad, but Utah's still lacking athleticism and quickness
at that spot. They're also very thin at power forward and will be thin
again next year from what it looks like.The point is, Ute fans need to be
patient. It's one thing for our coaches to coach a good game, but
they'll need another couple of good recruiting classes before they'll
have a chance to win conference games on a more consistent basis. That said, I
believe the consistency will come at some point, as long as we keep this
coaching staff together.Great game today. Go Utes!
A good read, Rock. Thanks!Go Utes!!
"Had they won a few of the aforementioned close ones, Utah’s record
would have been downright respectable."True. For everyone, too.
That's why you play them and some teams win and some don't. But they
are moving forward. Slowly.....