Most of the earlier critical comments were about the silly original headline.
So, the authors changed the headline...now it's back to bickering among BYU
and Ute fans. Making fun of the author of the headline was great, while it
pretty bad team playing another team. WoW what a story!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats to the Utes, here's to a tournament run in the Pac 12.@Utesby5Get used to the name calling it happens from both sides.
U fans have constantly referred to me in comments as an Indy-WACer. Y fans
constantly refer to the Pac 12 as the Pac10.2 or Pac + 2. I agree both sides
should grow up, as many of us act as childish as our politicians in D.C.
Interesting to see a WCC team's fan base so focused on an elite
conference's team. Why isn't the WAC's USU making comments? The
Big Sky's Weber State and SUSU?Good luck to these five quality
young men. I hope each is successful in life.I also hope that
byu's fans can focus on the WCC and resign themselves to the fact that the
PAC 12 did not want their program. It wasn't the University of Utah that
rejected byu so why express your jealousy and hatred in comments tied to an
article honoring our five outgoing seniors?I sincerely hope each of
our great state's programs do well. Comments degrading Utah
and Colorado with a "PAC 10.2" tag is disrespectful and shows ignorance
and jealousy. Since Notre Dame is the only BCS caliber independent program,
should Utah fans refer to your school's move as "Indy 1.5"? Since
Gonzaga is the only team in the WCC with a national reputation, should we tag
your team with 15 total NCAA Tournament wins all time as joining the "WCC
8.1"?Let's all show a little more class, especially in
articles honoring five graduating seniors.
If 5 pack teams make the big dance...u are only 5 away...could things get any
worse in the hump!
@ But seriously folks!W/L record aside, Utah is far improved from
last year. It has been a long time since Ute fans have been able to say their
basketball team is better than the one before it. I agree the number of wins is
a small difference but the fact that the program has seemed to stop the downward
skid is significant.As for Washburn, it is notable because he stuck
it out and stayed committed to the program through its darkest years when almost
all of his other teammates bailed. The accomplishment is a testament to his
character, and that is why it is being celebrated. Noah Hartsock averaged 8.5
ppg in his career, was not a special player for the Y?
@Ute busterThe ONLY reason Utah even came close is that BYU has a
tendency to overlook and don't plan for terrible teams. ----------That is not the ONLY reason considering Ducky and his
ilk were crying "Utah was too physical for BYU". BYU was
looking SEVEN games ahead, including Big 12 Baylor and ACC VTech, to WCC play?
I really get a full-on belly chuckle reading the comments from Utah fans about
their wonderful 4 win conference season and that it was ONE game better than
last year. And then there is the 1,000 career point for Washburn.
Let's see; 4 years x 30 games per year = 120 games; THAT'S 8.5 points
per game. How is this such an accomplishment? Marty Haws will, or has already
reached the same pinacle in less than two years. I guess it's the
difference in programs.
Sooner,The ONLY reason Utah even came close is that BYU has a tendency to
overlook and don't plan for terrible teams. They were looking ahead in the
schedule to conference play. But please feel free to live in your little
cromson fantasy world.
Sooner Ute,It's the body of work for the entire year not just one
game that counts. A team can't just show up for a few games here and there
and call it a great season. By the way, people in other parts of the country
would laugh you off the page if they could read the hype about your wonderful 4
win conference season. Please take the blinders off and do a reality check.
Crissy,Total Domination? Really? Let's not forget who you played.
OSU was another fellow cellar dweller. I hardly think that a narrow win, at
home, against an equally bad team would be condidered domination. But to each
SoonerUte"Ohhhh! Today is one of those days where results
don't matter."LOL at the spin.Results DO
matter, but unfortunately for U, that includes ALL results, not just
cherry-picked results from one or two games.The fantasy stuff is
things like Utah fans assuming things like Utah would have beaten BYU in a
return game at the HC.Sorry, but it doesn't always work out
that way:at Arizona, Utah lost 57-60at home Utah lost to
Arizona 64-68Yet, despite the "closeness" of those games,
NOBODY, except for fans living under that crimson bubble on the hill, would try
to argue that Utah is "almost" as good as Arizona.How good a
team is, is determined by their entire body of work, not just one or two games.
That's where overall records and rankings trump individual games in
comparing teams.U played Arizona and BYU tough, but U got blown out
both times U played Stanford, yet Stanford is ranked BELOW Arizona and BYU.RPI Rankings#14 Arizona#59 BYU#61 Stanford#181
@sooneruteYou are sometimes reasonable, on this you are being more
than a bit over the top. Relax and recalibrate.
Ohhhh! Today is one of those days where results don't matter. I made the
mistake of speaking about results of the floor. According to ESPN, the
worldwide leader of sports: Utah 58 BYU 61. According to the accepted
principals of math, 61 minus 58 is 3 points.I leave the fantasy
stuff to the Cougs, with one exception. This year, BYU and Utah would have
split a home and home. That reflects what we've seen this season "Utes
on the rise; Cougs on the slide".
Utah was picked #12 and finished #10 in the #6 conference in the nation.As a Ute I'm more than happy the direction our program is headed in
year one of rebuilding with 11 new players on the squad.Go UTES!!
SoonerUte"They call Utah terrible, which makes their own team
"3 points better than terrible"."#59 BYU#181
UtahSays otherwise.But nice try.
"And in giving credit where credit is due, last week BYU did take the #1
team in the nation down to the wire before coming up just a bit short."BYU didn't take on a team that was #1 at the time.Giving
credit where credit is due (using Cougar math)... Utah almost beat the team that
came up a bit short against a future #1. Wow! We are improving!!I
love that Coug fans forget history. They call Utah terrible, which makes their
own team "3 points better than terrible". What a badge of honor.
Props to the Utes. The DNews should also thank Chris B. Even when he is
incorrect he generates several more posts (like mine) correcting him. It is a
rare year that no school in Utah has beaten a top 25 ranked team. BYU and Utah
State have come up empty but so has Utah. So you get 2 out of three Chris. It
would be nice if Chris could direct his energy even more to the Utes and away
from Utah State and BYU. It's almost as if he is always looking over his
shoulder for a Cougar or Aggie fan. He could probably be the best Ute fan
Coaches K and Connor made a great scheme to beat the zone, and finally the team
executed it very well, and hit the majority of their open shots. I'd like
our chances against most teams when that happens. Some good defensive
gameplanning, too. Nelson got every shot he wanted in Corvallis, and tore us
apart. He finished with 18 this time, but he had to earn every one of them. Also
a good matchup with Loveridge on Burton, who couldn't get anything he
wanted. With some improved conditioning, athleticism and strength, Jeremy Olsen
is going to be a great player in this league.
MyPerspective"I suggest that the title of this article is in
reference to the Pac-12 preseason rankings that had Utah, a team that was
assembled this year, picked last. So, in light of the expectation, the
accomplishments of the 2013 squad are indeed noteworthy."Finishing ONE-game higher than expected with ONE conference win more than your
worst season ever, is nice, but is it really "noteworthy"?Blaming the minimal "improvement" on being a "newly assembled"
team is a cop out. Washburn has been with the program for years and DuBois
played on an NCAA tournament team last season. With those two players and
Loveridge, the Utes could have had a pretty good team, especially with your
embarrassingly weak pre-season schedule to fine tune the team. Unlike football,
it doesn't take years to rebuild a program. In fact, in can be done in ONE
As a Ute fan this year, I'll take what I can get.Even though
the Utes don't have a win against a Top 25 team, they have been in some
close games this year with the elite of the league. Remember, they almost beat
Arizona on their home floor.Here's hoping they have a good
showing against Oregon tomorrow. Whatever happens, I'm glad to see that
Washburn made the 1,000 point club. He has stuck with a losing program and
tried to keep a positive outlook. He deserves props for that.
@ 1cynicalfanClearly you aren't referring to yourself when you
talk about 'some of us' having standards. Pretty classic post from a
BYU fan though. It had over the top arrogance and you played the victim card.
I've read the comments. Typical and predictable from BYU fans. I suggest
that the title of this article is in reference to the Pac-12 preseason rankings
that had Utah, a team that was assembled this year, picked last. So, in light
of the expectation, the accomplishments of the 2013 squad are indeed noteworthy.
Well done, gentlemen!! Now, take care of business against Oregon.Near the end of the game ESPN projected five (5) Pac-12 teams in the
tournament. If that prediction comes to fruition, the Pac-12 will certainly be
Seems a bit over the top to be celebrating locking up 10th place, but the Utes
did play much better in the 2nd half than they have for most of the season. In
the first 5 min they actually had a little "run" in them.Any
improvement in the overall program, however, will depend on how the replacements
for Washburn, DuBois and Martin perform next season. Loveridge and Taylor are a
couple of nice pieces, but the Utes are going to need a lot more than those two
to escape the PAC 12 basement.btw, Tators is correct, the Utes
haven't beaten a Top 25 this season.Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA
are the PAC 12 teams that are ranked (currently), and the Utes haven't
beaten any of them.
"recruit better than BYU..." are you kidding me. BYU is basically in a
down year this having lost two starting seniors before the season even started
and yet they put together another 20+ win season and compiled, according to the
latest rankings, the #14 ranked recruiting class for 2013-2014 and the #8 ranked
class for the following year...and that's without Dastrup from AZ.The future of BYU basketball looks very bright.
The headline is the most hilarious of the year."seize 10th
Coach K is doing a fantastic job. He should be considered for a future Jazz
coach. It's nice to see the Utes on the upswing. In a few years they will
be in the elite of the pac 12. Honestly, they should be able to recruit better
Chris, love your zealousness for the U, but let's put it into perspective.
The Utes are 10th in the PAC. From paper that looks awful, but as you and I
know and a few other Ute fans, there has been significant progress in rebuilding
this year. Coach K2 is building a foundation that should produce a winning team
in 2 years and a competitive team in 3-4 years.
Funniest headline of the year. If I were a Ute, this headline would be
insulting. I sincerely hope the Runnin' Ute ship is
turning...it's been going downstream for too long. It's hard to watch
Chris B. struggling so hard to find a way to praise his Utes and demean everyone
Does a team seize or just oooozz into tenth place?
@ Chris BLest you start getting a little bit too excited, remember
that the Utes haven't yet beat a top 25 team this year yet either. Nor have
they won a game against either BYU or USU this year. And they've also won
the fewest number of games among the 3 in-state schools this year. And in
giving credit where credit is due, last week BYU did take the #1 team in the
nation down to the wire before coming up just a bit short. But this
article is about the Utes, so let's get back to them. In giving credit
where credit is due to Utah... they did play a very good game against OSU last
night. I was surprisingly impressed. Coach Larry appears to have them turned the
corner and headed in the right direction.
And neither will the Utes...
Total domination.I like where this program is headed!Let's make it two in a row, with a tpo 25 win.Something byu
and usu did NOT accomplish this yearGo Utes
This is just way too easy. Like taking candy from a baby. Picking on the Utes
here wouldn't bring any sense of satisfaction at all. Of course, that
doesn't stop Ute fans from criticizing BYU's awful performance this
year. Some of us have higher standards, I guess. Probably has something to do
with the honor code.
Way to go Utes! I guess someone had to be the 10th best. And it is better than
last year! Time to celebrate.
Great win Utes! It is so satisfying to see the growth of this team, not just
from last year-but also the development of these wonderful freshmen throughout
this season. Anyone who makes the mistake of thinking that Jordan Loveridge and
Company won't become one amazing squad is really underestimating them. Next
year will be interesting if this solid core comes back healthy. But I would look
for Utah to be back to prominence during the 14-15 season. But who knows? Play d
like you did last night (wonderful) and we could see it next year.
This was the first time I've watched Oregon State play this year. No
disrespect to the Utes, but the Beavs were awful. Utes didn't play their
best game, and this wasn't as close as the score indicates. For those saying the WCC is weak at the bottom, I'd pick LMU in a match
against Oregon State without doubt.Congrats to the Utes on their
12th win, which is exactly the win total I predicted at the beginning of the
season.Loveridge continues to impress. A couple more kids of his
quality, and U could turn this around.
Great game for the Utes! I can really see progress being made at both
ends of the floor. I cannot wait to be in the huntsman center for tomorrows
match up against Oregon.
The Utes dd it! They are going to finish the regular season with a .400 win
percentage!Now all they have to do is win one more game before
getting knocked out of the PAC 12 tournament and they can boast a .400+ win
percentage for the whole season.
"Seize" like in "grab"? Way to go you guys... I
think that they probably would have "Seized" tenth place this year in
the WCC as well... They will be a force to deal with in the PAC 10.s
Tourney...Good thing that Sacramento State and Cal-Northridge are
not members of their Conference or they would have had to "seize" 13th