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  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    March 9, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    Most of the earlier critical comments were about the silly original headline. So, the authors changed the headline...now it's back to bickering among BYU and Ute fans. Making fun of the author of the headline was great, while it lasted. :)

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    March 9, 2013 1:10 a.m.

    pretty bad team playing another team. WoW what a story!!!!!!!!!!

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:38 p.m.

    Congrats to the Utes, here's to a tournament run in the Pac 12.

    @Utesby5

    Get used to the name calling it happens from both sides. U fans have constantly referred to me in comments as an Indy-WACer. Y fans constantly refer to the Pac 12 as the Pac10.2 or Pac + 2. I agree both sides should grow up, as many of us act as childish as our politicians in D.C.

  • UtesBy5 Syracuse, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:08 p.m.

    Interesting to see a WCC team's fan base so focused on an elite conference's team. Why isn't the WAC's USU making comments? The Big Sky's Weber State and SUSU?

    Good luck to these five quality young men. I hope each is successful in life.

    I also hope that byu's fans can focus on the WCC and resign themselves to the fact that the PAC 12 did not want their program. It wasn't the University of Utah that rejected byu so why express your jealousy and hatred in comments tied to an article honoring our five outgoing seniors?

    I sincerely hope each of our great state's programs do well.

    Comments degrading Utah and Colorado with a "PAC 10.2" tag is disrespectful and shows ignorance and jealousy. Since Notre Dame is the only BCS caliber independent program, should Utah fans refer to your school's move as "Indy 1.5"? Since Gonzaga is the only team in the WCC with a national reputation, should we tag your team with 15 total NCAA Tournament wins all time as joining the "WCC 8.1"?

    Let's all show a little more class, especially in articles honoring five graduating seniors.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    March 8, 2013 6:59 p.m.

    If 5 pack teams make the big dance...u are only 5 away...could things get any worse in the hump!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    @ But seriously folks!

    W/L record aside, Utah is far improved from last year. It has been a long time since Ute fans have been able to say their basketball team is better than the one before it. I agree the number of wins is a small difference but the fact that the program has seemed to stop the downward skid is significant.

    As for Washburn, it is notable because he stuck it out and stayed committed to the program through its darkest years when almost all of his other teammates bailed. The accomplishment is a testament to his character, and that is why it is being celebrated. Noah Hartsock averaged 8.5 ppg in his career, was not a special player for the Y?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    @Ute buster

    The ONLY reason Utah even came close is that BYU has a tendency to overlook and don't plan for terrible teams.

    ----------

    That is not the ONLY reason considering Ducky and his ilk were crying "Utah was too physical for BYU".

    BYU was looking SEVEN games ahead, including Big 12 Baylor and ACC VTech, to WCC play? LOL!!

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 3:46 p.m.

    I really get a full-on belly chuckle reading the comments from Utah fans about their wonderful 4 win conference season and that it was ONE game better than last year.

    And then there is the 1,000 career point for Washburn. Let's see; 4 years x 30 games per year = 120 games; THAT'S 8.5 points per game. How is this such an accomplishment? Marty Haws will, or has already reached the same pinacle in less than two years. I guess it's the difference in programs.

  • Ute buster Pacific Northwest, WA
    March 8, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Sooner,
    The ONLY reason Utah even came close is that BYU has a tendency to overlook and don't plan for terrible teams. They were looking ahead in the schedule to conference play. But please feel free to live in your little cromson fantasy world.

  • Down under Pacific Northwest, WA
    March 8, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    Sooner Ute,
    It's the body of work for the entire year not just one game that counts. A team can't just show up for a few games here and there and call it a great season. By the way, people in other parts of the country would laugh you off the page if they could read the hype about your wonderful 4 win conference season. Please take the blinders off and do a reality check.

  • Down under Pacific Northwest, WA
    March 8, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    Crissy,
    Total Domination? Really? Let's not forget who you played. OSU was another fellow cellar dweller. I hardly think that a narrow win, at home, against an equally bad team would be condidered domination. But to each his own.

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    March 8, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    "Ohhhh! Today is one of those days where results don't matter."

    LOL at the spin.

    Results DO matter, but unfortunately for U, that includes ALL results, not just cherry-picked results from one or two games.

    The fantasy stuff is things like Utah fans assuming things like Utah would have beaten BYU in a return game at the HC.

    Sorry, but it doesn't always work out that way:

    at Arizona, Utah lost 57-60
    at home Utah lost to Arizona 64-68

    Yet, despite the "closeness" of those games, NOBODY, except for fans living under that crimson bubble on the hill, would try to argue that Utah is "almost" as good as Arizona.

    How good a team is, is determined by their entire body of work, not just one or two games. That's where overall records and rankings trump individual games in comparing teams.

    U played Arizona and BYU tough, but U got blown out both times U played Stanford, yet Stanford is ranked BELOW Arizona and BYU.

    RPI Rankings
    #14 Arizona
    #59 BYU
    #61 Stanford
    #181 Utah

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 8, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    @soonerute

    You are sometimes reasonable, on this you are being more than a bit over the top. Relax and recalibrate.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Ohhhh! Today is one of those days where results don't matter. I made the mistake of speaking about results of the floor. According to ESPN, the worldwide leader of sports: Utah 58 BYU 61. According to the accepted principals of math, 61 minus 58 is 3 points.

    I leave the fantasy stuff to the Cougs, with one exception. This year, BYU and Utah would have split a home and home. That reflects what we've seen this season "Utes on the rise; Cougs on the slide".

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 8, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    Utah was picked #12 and finished #10 in the #6 conference in the nation.

    As a Ute I'm more than happy the direction our program is headed in year one of rebuilding with 11 new players on the squad.

    Go UTES!!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 8, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    SoonerUte

    "They call Utah terrible, which makes their own team "3 points better than terrible"."

    #59 BYU
    #181 Utah

    Says otherwise.

    But nice try.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    "And in giving credit where credit is due, last week BYU did take the #1 team in the nation down to the wire before coming up just a bit short."
    BYU didn't take on a team that was #1 at the time.

    Giving credit where credit is due (using Cougar math)... Utah almost beat the team that came up a bit short against a future #1. Wow! We are improving!!

    I love that Coug fans forget history. They call Utah terrible, which makes their own team "3 points better than terrible". What a badge of honor.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    Props to the Utes. The DNews should also thank Chris B. Even when he is incorrect he generates several more posts (like mine) correcting him. It is a rare year that no school in Utah has beaten a top 25 ranked team. BYU and Utah State have come up empty but so has Utah. So you get 2 out of three Chris. It would be nice if Chris could direct his energy even more to the Utes and away from Utah State and BYU. It's almost as if he is always looking over his shoulder for a Cougar or Aggie fan. He could probably be the best Ute fan ever!!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Coaches K and Connor made a great scheme to beat the zone, and finally the team executed it very well, and hit the majority of their open shots. I'd like our chances against most teams when that happens. Some good defensive gameplanning, too. Nelson got every shot he wanted in Corvallis, and tore us apart. He finished with 18 this time, but he had to earn every one of them. Also a good matchup with Loveridge on Burton, who couldn't get anything he wanted. With some improved conditioning, athleticism and strength, Jeremy Olsen is going to be a great player in this league.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:27 a.m.

    MyPerspective

    "I suggest that the title of this article is in reference to the Pac-12 preseason rankings that had Utah, a team that was assembled this year, picked last. So, in light of the expectation, the accomplishments of the 2013 squad are indeed noteworthy."

    Finishing ONE-game higher than expected with ONE conference win more than your worst season ever, is nice, but is it really "noteworthy"?

    Blaming the minimal "improvement" on being a "newly assembled" team is a cop out. Washburn has been with the program for years and DuBois played on an NCAA tournament team last season. With those two players and Loveridge, the Utes could have had a pretty good team, especially with your embarrassingly weak pre-season schedule to fine tune the team. Unlike football, it doesn't take years to rebuild a program. In fact, in can be done in ONE recruiting class.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    As a Ute fan this year, I'll take what I can get.

    Even though the Utes don't have a win against a Top 25 team, they have been in some close games this year with the elite of the league. Remember, they almost beat Arizona on their home floor.

    Here's hoping they have a good showing against Oregon tomorrow. Whatever happens, I'm glad to see that Washburn made the 1,000 point club. He has stuck with a losing program and tried to keep a positive outlook. He deserves props for that.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    @ 1cynicalfan

    Clearly you aren't referring to yourself when you talk about 'some of us' having standards. Pretty classic post from a BYU fan though. It had over the top arrogance and you played the victim card. Well done.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    I've read the comments. Typical and predictable from BYU fans. I suggest that the title of this article is in reference to the Pac-12 preseason rankings that had Utah, a team that was assembled this year, picked last. So, in light of the expectation, the accomplishments of the 2013 squad are indeed noteworthy. Well done, gentlemen!! Now, take care of business against Oregon.

    Near the end of the game ESPN projected five (5) Pac-12 teams in the tournament. If that prediction comes to fruition, the Pac-12 will certainly be well represented.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    Seems a bit over the top to be celebrating locking up 10th place, but the Utes did play much better in the 2nd half than they have for most of the season. In the first 5 min they actually had a little "run" in them.

    Any improvement in the overall program, however, will depend on how the replacements for Washburn, DuBois and Martin perform next season. Loveridge and Taylor are a couple of nice pieces, but the Utes are going to need a lot more than those two to escape the PAC 12 basement.

    btw, Tators is correct, the Utes haven't beaten a Top 25 this season.

    Arizona, Oregon, and UCLA are the PAC 12 teams that are ranked (currently), and the Utes haven't beaten any of them.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    March 8, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    "recruit better than BYU..." are you kidding me. BYU is basically in a down year this having lost two starting seniors before the season even started and yet they put together another 20+ win season and compiled, according to the latest rankings, the #14 ranked recruiting class for 2013-2014 and the #8 ranked class for the following year...and that's without Dastrup from AZ.

    The future of BYU basketball looks very bright.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    The headline is the most hilarious of the year.

    "seize 10th place"

    LOL!

    That said......congratulations?

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    March 8, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    Coach K is doing a fantastic job. He should be considered for a future Jazz coach. It's nice to see the Utes on the upswing. In a few years they will be in the elite of the pac 12. Honestly, they should be able to recruit better than BYU.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    March 8, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    Chris, love your zealousness for the U, but let's put it into perspective. The Utes are 10th in the PAC. From paper that looks awful, but as you and I know and a few other Ute fans, there has been significant progress in rebuilding this year. Coach K2 is building a foundation that should produce a winning team in 2 years and a competitive team in 3-4 years.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Funniest headline of the year. If I were a Ute, this headline would be insulting.

    I sincerely hope the Runnin' Ute ship is turning...it's been going downstream for too long. It's hard to watch Chris B. struggling so hard to find a way to praise his Utes and demean everyone else.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    Does a team seize or just oooozz into tenth place?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    March 8, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @ Chris B

    Lest you start getting a little bit too excited, remember that the Utes haven't yet beat a top 25 team this year yet either. Nor have they won a game against either BYU or USU this year. And they've also won the fewest number of games among the 3 in-state schools this year.
    And in giving credit where credit is due, last week BYU did take the #1 team in the nation down to the wire before coming up just a bit short.
    But this article is about the Utes, so let's get back to them. In giving credit where credit is due to Utah... they did play a very good game against OSU last night. I was surprisingly impressed. Coach Larry appears to have them turned the corner and headed in the right direction.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    March 8, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    And neither will the Utes...

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2013 7:50 a.m.

    Total domination.

    I like where this program is headed!

    Let's make it two in a row, with a tpo 25 win.

    Something byu and usu did NOT accomplish this year

    Go Utes

  • 1cynicalfan Appleton, WI
    March 8, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    This is just way too easy. Like taking candy from a baby. Picking on the Utes here wouldn't bring any sense of satisfaction at all. Of course, that doesn't stop Ute fans from criticizing BYU's awful performance this year. Some of us have higher standards, I guess. Probably has something to do with the honor code.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 8, 2013 7:12 a.m.

    Way to go Utes! I guess someone had to be the 10th best. And it is better than last year! Time to celebrate.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    March 8, 2013 7:07 a.m.

    Great win Utes! It is so satisfying to see the growth of this team, not just from last year-but also the development of these wonderful freshmen throughout this season. Anyone who makes the mistake of thinking that Jordan Loveridge and Company won't become one amazing squad is really underestimating them. Next year will be interesting if this solid core comes back healthy. But I would look for Utah to be back to prominence during the 14-15 season. But who knows? Play d like you did last night (wonderful) and we could see it next year.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    March 8, 2013 6:35 a.m.

    This was the first time I've watched Oregon State play this year. No disrespect to the Utes, but the Beavs were awful. Utes didn't play their best game, and this wasn't as close as the score indicates.

    For those saying the WCC is weak at the bottom, I'd pick LMU in a match against Oregon State without doubt.

    Congrats to the Utes on their 12th win, which is exactly the win total I predicted at the beginning of the season.

    Loveridge continues to impress. A couple more kids of his quality, and U could turn this around.

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    March 8, 2013 6:11 a.m.

    Great game for the Utes!
    I can really see progress being made at both ends of the floor. I cannot wait to be in the huntsman center for tomorrows match up against Oregon.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    March 8, 2013 5:56 a.m.

    The Utes dd it! They are going to finish the regular season with a .400 win percentage!

    Now all they have to do is win one more game before getting knocked out of the PAC 12 tournament and they can boast a .400+ win percentage for the whole season.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 8, 2013 1:07 a.m.

    "Seize" like in "grab"? Way to go you guys...

    I think that they probably would have "Seized" tenth place this year in the WCC as well... They will be a force to deal with in the PAC 10.s Tourney...

    Good thing that Sacramento State and Cal-Northridge are not members of their Conference or they would have had to "seize" 13th place...