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Published: Thursday, March 7 2013 9:55 p.m. MST

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samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

It is simply amazing to see the contortions of logic made by people like the writer for the "Hollywood Reporter" who actively spew hatred and defamatory statements about someone like Orson Scott Card, someone who's only offense is to have a belief in maintaining the traditional, centuries-old structure of marriage as being that of joining people of opposite sexes.

Far from simply defending the equal rights of everyone to civil rights and freedoms that are God-given and constitutionally guaranteed, these advocates of censorship and distortion actively persecute anyone who dares to speak out against their distortions of traditional marriage by seeking to deprive people of their livelihoods and freedom of expression.

What incredible hypocrisy!

I, for one, believe in freedom of thought and speech and hope that Orson will be defended from these attacks and prevail. As vital as it is, there is much more at stake here than the sanctity of marriage. When the right to free speech and free thought is infringed, **everything** is at stake.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

“Anti-gay activists like Card can’t expect to spread the same hateful and dangerous rhetoric they once did..."

What 'hateful and dangerous rhetoric' has he spread? Seriously--I'd like to know. The same emotion-laden words are thrown out against anyone that differs from the LGBT viewpoint.

Would someone from the LGBT community please explain to me, civilly, why it is that if you don't support the gay agenda, you are considered 'hateful'? Look--I don't care if someone is LGBT. Good for you. I simply have a different view on it's role in society. Why does that make me 'hateful'? Perhaps it would help if you would define the terms 'hate' and 'hateful'.

Tell me, by LGBT friends, since you have a different view than I, do you hate me? Just curious.

LDS Mom
American Fork, UT

Orson Scott Card is a great author. They can't take that away from him.

Clarissa
Layton, UT

I'm proud of you Orson. Good for you for Standing for Something.

Pasmith
St Petersburg, FL

Someone needs to work a little harder and/or smarter about getting signatures for OSC's petition. I know there are a lot more than 200 who would have signed it.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

There is a serious issue with having Card write for such a well known franchise. Will he represent GLBT characters in his stories, or deny that they exist? If he does represent them will they be dynamic, interesting characters, or just shallow and stereotypical?

GLBT people do exist in the US and writing a story without them, or making them minor/sterotypical/shallow characters is the same as writing out ethnic minorities the same way.

Superman is a fairly old franchise, diversity would help breath some life into it.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

"someone who's only offense is to have a belief in maintaining the traditional, centuries-old structure of marriage as being that of joining people of opposite sexes."

This is a pretty thin argument. Being centuries-old doesn't make it right. The exact same statement could have been, and was made about interracial marriage by changing the last two words to "same race." No one is blasting him for believing same-sex marriage is wrong. They're blasting him for advocating for laws to support his theologically based agenda. Believe whatever you want, that's fine. I don't care if you believe coffee is evil. But if you pass laws to outlaw the sale of coffee, then you've crossed a line.

Danish American
Payson, UT

Another example liberal bullying. Don't like a divergent view point--bully them.

Firefly123
Mapleton, UT

I'm on several comic book and animation sites, and can tell you all, things are changing. Plans are on for a full-court-press of dynamic GLBT superheroes coming out as the best and strongest, to serve as role-models for the "persecuted" GLBT children of the world. It's OUR FAULT, people. Had we taught our children that everyone is different and God loves us all, that we NEVER bully anyone for his or her or its feelings, this would never have happened. Or would it? I'm sick of having GLBT rights shoved down my throat, but know part of the fault is mine because I didn't make sure my family and Church understood TOLERANCE. Persecution never was tolerance.

Obama10
SYRACUSE, UT

Who still reads comics? I wouldn't even know where to buy a comic book if I wanted to. The only reason DC and Marvel are introducing gay characters in their comics is to help sagging interest and revenue and frankly I don't think it has helped. The only way we even know about "super-heroes" anymore is through movies. Big deal about nothing.

Linus
Bountiful, UT

This sounds like discrimination to me. A good man is being deprived of his economic liberty in retribution for his deeply held religious beliefs. The haters and bigots have been turned loose upon Christendom.

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

I thought conservatives believed in the free market. This is a great example of the free market deciding that they don't want an anti gay person writing their comic books. The market has spoken, and it rejected Orson Scott Card. Besides the fact that the market is going against what you believe, what is the problem?

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Liberal bullying you say?

When some (not all) conservative groups call for support of Chik-fil-A for their religious corporate social policies, and boycotting of JCPenney for having Ellen DeGeneres as their spokesperson, it is not only OK, it is considered "the Gospel in Action"!

But when supporters of marriage equality (some conservative) petition a comic book publisher, you decry it as "bullying" and "depriving a good man of his economic liberty"?

I cannot find the words to describe this complete absurdity...

E & EE
Ann arbor, MI

The market has not spoken. A small group of people have spoken (yes 15000 is small). The market won't have spoken until the actual comic comes out and people decide whether to buy it or not. This is like looking at a PETA petition against eating meat and saying that the market has spoken against eating meat.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

Morality increases one's creativity; playing just one piano key all day long (as opposed to 88), decreases one's imagination.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

samhill:
[I, for one, believe in freedom of thought and speech and hope that Orson will be defended from these attacks and prevail]

Don't worry, Card still has his freedom of speech. DC is a private company, and it was actually the artist who pulled out, as it is his right to do so.

Linus:
[A good man is being deprived of his economic liberty in retribution for his deeply held religious beliefs.]

Nope, he isn't. DC is a private company and the artist is a private citizen, neither are responsible for providing Card with a livelihood or platform for his ideas.

Go Utes!
Springville, UT

People are working to hard at trying to find things to be offended over. This is life y'all; toes will get stepped on, things will be said that we dislike or do not agree with, are we going to call out our layers every time somebody makes us cry? if the LGBT is so opposed to OSC writing the comics then they should encourage their members to not buy them.

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

The GLBT movement intends to control the media, and they are close to doing that now. It is interesting that only 3% of the population is gay, yet TV shows are full of gay storylines, most sympathetic with the GLBT cause. They want to control the publication and production of educational materials. They are striving to rewrite history, emphasizing gay culture and history above more vital themes within the curricula.

No one can argue against their stance, or they will be labeled a "hater." No business can fail to support their agenda or they will face boycotts and very critical press. Individuals who espouse a traditional view will have their employment threatened.

Generations to come may look back and recognize that the GLBT movement as the end of free speech and freedom of consicience in America. But probably not. History will be revised to portray homosexuals as the saviors of humankind.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

"Would someone from the LGBT community please explain to me, civilly, why it is that if you don't support the gay agenda, you are considered 'hateful'?"

He wants homosexual relations to be illegal.

PepperLayne
Salt Lake City, 00

Hey, all you champions of intellectual freedom! An author is being censored for his personal beliefs! This is right up your alley! Where are you guys?

Orson Scott Card is one of my absolute favorite authors. He's a consummate professional and a fantastic storyteller. He's not going to make Superman some crusader for traditional marriage, so I don't see what the big deal is. Fans and the industry only hurt themselves when they censor an author for his personal beliefs. Let any individual hold their own opinions - as long as those opinions don't negatively impact the quality of the work they do, they are entitled to as many fans as the free market grants them. Judge the art, not the artist. (What is it that leftists tell conservatives all the time? If you don't like it, don't read it!)

If DC Comics doesn't want Card, that's their problem. Card's success isn't dependent on how many people embrace his faith and values anyway (did you hear about the Ender's Game movie that comes out this year? Sounds like the man has more than a few fans).

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